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Rallye Wagons
« on: November 30, 2012, 09:16:47 PM »
I have seen Rallye wagons in sales brochures, can't say I have ever seen a actual car. Did they not make very many of them? I was thinking about turning my CW into a Rallye. Any pictures or any member have one.
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Re: Raylle Wagons
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2012, 08:34:56 PM »
Do you mean Rallye?

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« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2012, 09:36:27 PM »
I've only seen pics myself. It would be easy to duplicate
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« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2012, 09:38:07 PM »
As nice as that car is going to turn out...... You can call it anything you want for sure 8)
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« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2012, 10:42:22 PM »
It's a darn good thing spelling and fabricating don't take the same skills! You are so right blupinto I did mean Rallye. I like the way the runabouts do the Rallye stripe over the wagons, would probably do mine that way. I've got a long way to go before I need  concern myself with that part.
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Re: Rallye Wagons
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2012, 12:17:28 AM »
That would be cool.  ;D
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« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2012, 03:14:51 PM »
I'm thinking the factory orange w/black lower area, I have the factory rear lovers (black) and the rallye chin spoiler would also be black along with grill and headlight area. Maybe some black on the hood cowl?
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Re: Rallye Wagons
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2012, 05:25:23 PM »
I like your taste  ,prostreet ...sounds like a winner.
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« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2012, 05:46:42 PM »
mrskydog, it's your SWEET RIDE that put that train of thought in my choices of paint. I feel the black bottom helps soften(blend) the quite sizable rubber bumper ends. is the black paint or stick on?
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Re: Rallye Wagons
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2012, 07:20:04 PM »
Thanks Prostreet, I do agree about the overall black out on the Rallye. It re-shapes the look of a Big Bumper Pinto. I went out to check mine, and the lower black portion is painted, the Rallye Letters are orange Decals layed over the Black. I really like your Wagon ,very well done Great Job!

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« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2012, 08:49:43 PM »
Kirk, that surprises me that the letters are decals. it looks like the letters would be the body paint and the black would be paint or decal. i wonder if any one on the site could (would) photo shop a wagon with the two door style rallye?  Bud
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« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2012, 09:31:53 PM »
That makes sense that the letters are a decal. It's a lot less to screw up on the assembly line. Paint the bottom black & stick on the letters.
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« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2012, 09:34:25 PM »
I took a lot of reference photographs of Kirk's Rallye this summer on a trip out to MI. (http://www.photobucket.com/80rallye).  I used Photoshop to stretch the image so the RALLYE letters appeared as flat as could be and then imported that image into AutoCAD.  I scaled the image at 1:1 and got about halfway through tracing over the letters when other projects got in the way.

When I'm done, I'm hoping to get a graphics shop to reproduce the tri-color stripe (I used Photoshop to get RGB & CMYK color values) as well as the RALLYE letters with the drawings I provide. It won't be 100% accurate, but it will be damn close.

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Re: Rallye Wagons
« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2012, 12:20:33 AM »
Couple errors with my previous post...
1. I did not stretch the image so it appeared flat - I wouldn't have been able to scale it properly if I did that.
2. I did not get the CMYK values the first time around, but that is easily done.
I decided I would finish this up tonight; here's a SketchUp model (viewed in 2D) after I imported the CAD linework. I also applied the orange color I pulled off the Rallye lettering in the original photograph:




How does it look???
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« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2012, 12:39:13 AM »
Wow!!! I just wish I could see the picture that your working on. Darn company computer!!!
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Re: Rallye Wagons
« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2012, 12:42:03 AM »
Added the tri-color stripe and fixed the "inner corner" of the R to be rounded...


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Re: Rallye Wagons
« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2012, 09:04:47 AM »
Great Job!! looks like the Real Deal to me...I will look for updates on your project. The Rallye is tucked away for Winter now. If you need any further info let me know.....Kirk  ;)
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Re: Rallye Wagons
« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2012, 10:09:30 AM »
Thanks, Kirk!
 
I'll be working on my car tomorrow night. I purchased a special set of 3/4" flanges that will allow me to flip my turbo exhaust manifold 180*. Should be able to update my project thread sometime over the weekend.
 
John, what's your email address? I can send along a copy if you're unable to view the images.
 
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« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2012, 11:20:47 AM »
Steve,send me a link on the 180 degree flanges if you would.

I have a turbo header I want to 180.

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« Reply #19 on: December 05, 2012, 11:43:44 AM »
steve that is fantastic work, it's funny I don't remember seeing the tri color stripe. the more I see of the Rallye package the more I lean tword that paint style. Still find it odd that pinto rallye wagons must be far and few between.  Bud
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« Reply #20 on: December 05, 2012, 12:42:28 PM »
Racer: here is the link: http://www.turborangerforums.com/showthread.php?t=1166. Steve (Pinturbo75) originally posted about these, so credit should go to him for the find. They are $175 for a set of four flanges, with two sets of bolts (one to attach the flanges to the head, and the second to attach the manifold to the flanges). I originally wanted to get a Bob's log, but according to some angry customers on TurboFord, he's been laying low due to a sickness. I noticed he made an appearance a few days ago, but with the long line of people waiting for parts from him, I don't know if it would be wise to drop several hundred on a header to only end up in the same bucket.
 
Bud: Thanks! It only took a few hours and lots of measuring in AutoCAD to get the dimensions/angles of the letters and spacing between them just right. A difficulty I ran into was that the bottom of the door curves inward towards the underside of the car, and trying to measure a 3D object in 2D as it angles away from you isn't 100% accurate. I feel the overall scale of the letters is proportional, and would love to print out a template to mock up. I'll reply back to this thread when I can do that.
 
As for Rallye wagons, I don't believe I've ever seen one, except in the brochures. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the only part of the tape that would be different would be for the rear quarters and the tailgate. Nothing too difficult to fab up since they're just striping at that point.
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« Reply #21 on: December 05, 2012, 03:18:10 PM »
Steve, here it is ... cummingjt@live.com..

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« Reply #22 on: December 05, 2012, 09:26:52 PM »
Steve, the Rallye wagon's style of paint is much different. The black part is all there is, so if the car was orange the rallye would be black. having a hard time explaining, you'll have to look at one. I'm not a big fan of that style that's why I'm thinking of doing mine the two door style. Bud
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« Reply #23 on: December 05, 2012, 09:59:23 PM »
Yeah, I am a little confused (which is not unusual for me...)

Here is a link to the 1980 sales brochure that shows a Rallye Wagon: http://paintref.com/cgi-bin/brochuredisplay.cgi?year=1980&manuf=Ford&model=Pinto&smod=&page=13&scan=13.

I scanned these from the 1979 sales brochure:







To me, it seems to be almost identical to the Runabout, except the wagons were longer in the rear (so a bit more of the tape), and there is no blackout tape treatment under the belt molding for the window. Also, the wagons lack the rear spoiler that the Runabouts had, and instead featured a narrow band of tri-color striping just beneath the rear backlite. I apologize if I'm still not quite clear on what you mean. Please let me know if this helped (or hurt  ;) )


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« Reply #24 on: December 05, 2012, 10:14:18 PM »
Steve, you are a fast one!  I guess I like the word Rallye the same color as the main body paint color set in the black lower area. to me the black lower area ties the black chin spoiler and bumper ends together. Would love to know if some one has ever seen one in person and what years the were made. Bud
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« Reply #25 on: December 05, 2012, 10:24:21 PM »
Haha, thanks Bud. I have the Tapatalk app for my iPhone (which buzzes whenever someone posts on a topic I'm watching, and since Rallyes are near and dear to my heart, this thread qualifies!) I agree the lower bodyside painted in black really makes the Pinto look a bit more agressive (as do the rest of the blackout treatments, in my opinion, like the trim around the windows and the sport mirrors, etc.)


To my knowledge, the only years where the Rallye looked this way was May 1979 - 1980. I have seen a poster on eBay for a 1976 Pinto Rallye, but never saw it in the '76 brochure:





Also, the 1971 Pinto brochure mentions a Rallye, which featured a grille ornament (you may have seen these on eBay from time to time) and Mustang "boss-style" side striping. Check that out here: http://paintref.com/cgi-bin/brochuredisplay.cgi?year=1971&manuf=Ford&model=Pinto&smod=&page=4&scan=4


As for your question if anyone has ever seen one in person, I'll have to let the rest of the community answer that one. The only Rallye I've seen in person was Kirk's!  :)
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« Reply #26 on: December 06, 2012, 08:19:38 PM »
Steve , this Pinto rallye thing has caught my interest. Ford offered the package and no one bought them? some were sold and are not known of? the 1971 with the boss stripe was cool. I do have a rallye grill badge that i got off e-bay. maybe cookieboy has some info for us.
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« Reply #27 on: December 08, 2012, 03:49:47 PM »
Just found you guys on line today! I have a Rallye Wagon in Light Blue. V6 and C3. Will post pics in a few days if you want. Have owned various Cruising wagons over the last 25 years or so. Not very many Rallye's around. Have only seen the one I have and rescued it from a salvage yard about 15 years ago. I am getting ready to install another V6 and trans from a 78 Mustang that was rebuilt and then wrecked. The motor in my wagon now came from a later Bronco II and the trans has started to slip.   

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« Reply #28 on: December 08, 2012, 04:33:56 PM »
Stubby350 Welcome! I am so glad you chimed in on the rallye wagons and to find out you own one is awesome. as my earlier post said I am thinking about making my CW into a rallye but plan to use the runabout style stripe. Will look forward to seeing some pic's and any more info you have on rallye wagons. Bud
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