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Shiny is Good! => General Pinto Talk => Topic started by: Pintosopher on August 28, 2017, 06:24:33 PM

Title: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: Pintosopher on August 28, 2017, 06:24:33 PM
Hmm...
 The Pinto was launched September 11th 1970... A P car in the 9th month of the year ???
 Pintos are a vehicle that was to address the import onslaught, and was revised a few times in its production..
 Pintos were and are a performance pony to all forms of motorsports, the 2.0L did its duty in many racing venues...
 What could have been possible if the Pinto had Dominated in T/A U-2 racing? IMSA RS?  A V8 version instead of the MII for AAGT racing?
 Ahh, there's more to be had, the history has yet to be written, Soooo, Let's get to it!  8)

 Pintosopher , rolling in the Hay, looking for the Green , and munching oats ;D
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: Reeves1 on September 10, 2017, 06:34:16 AM
Looks like a truck front end  ;D
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: Pintosopher on September 10, 2017, 08:11:32 AM
Looks like a truck front end  ;D
I think Paul was going for the NASCAR Road race look from the 90's. It's going to be a wonder when this one hit's the streets.... :)
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: russosborne on September 17, 2017, 01:42:12 AM
Looks to me like aerodynamics are not a concern to the builder of that Pinto. 
Russ
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: dick1172762 on September 17, 2017, 08:40:39 AM
As the song goes (I did it my way). This is one of the finest if not the finest Pinto race / street car ever built. He has been building this car for over 20 years!
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: Pintosopher on November 07, 2017, 08:09:54 PM
Does not the view of many in the herd inspire you to Stampede? Think about it...
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: dick1172762 on November 08, 2017, 09:23:21 AM
I'm ready to stampede after looking at those pictures. I can only go as far as the garage, but that's a start.
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: Pintosopher on November 08, 2017, 10:58:27 AM
I'm ready to stampede after looking at those pictures. I can only go as far as the garage, but that's a start.
Does this mean you are the Blacksmith and deal in metal shoes?  ;D
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: dick1172762 on November 08, 2017, 12:52:21 PM
The blacksmith will use carbon fiber shoes now that we are in the 21 century!
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: Pintosopher on November 10, 2017, 03:15:08 PM
A 3d printer to create a Pinto carbon fiber body would be nice ;D
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: dick1172762 on November 11, 2017, 10:26:57 AM
I keep reading about a factory race Corvette that's made out carbon fiber. Guess GM can afford it. For the list 15 years or so, those Corvette's have been cleaning up in pro road racing. Even after JR had his wiped out with a very big fire.
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: Pintosopher on November 12, 2017, 12:40:38 PM
Personable people provide power for Pintos..... ;)
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: dick1172762 on November 14, 2017, 03:20:35 PM
I see they have added 2 more cam towers which is what every 2.0L needs if it is to be raced. I have checked old used 2.0L camshafts and all of them were bent in the middle as much as .010 of an inch. The middle cam tower with a cam of over .600 lift is prone to break away from the head. But then again not many people are going to use such a cam.
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: Pintosopher on November 16, 2017, 07:54:20 AM
I see they have added 2 more cam towers which is what every 2.0L needs if it is to be raced. I have checked old used 2.0L camshafts and all of them were bent in the middle as much as .010 of an inch. The middle cam tower with a cam of over .600 lift is prone to break away from the head. But then again not many people are going to use such a cam.
This head is not classified for anything in SCCA except modified classes in Solo & GCR(Super Production? )road racing rules. But as a Twin cam head for the Pinto EAO block, the possibilities are endless if you add all the short block goodies (Race built to over 300 N/A HP@ 9000 rpm) Irish Hill climb champ (now deceased RIP) Simon McKinley and his Mk2 escort videos are epic for this Motor sounds!

 Howling good times when the stacks ;) are Honking!
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: dick1172762 on November 17, 2017, 02:34:16 PM
Do you have a picture of Simon's car? There are Escort picture on that Trans Am web site down under. There is so much on there that after a week, I'm still finding more.
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: Pintosopher on November 19, 2017, 07:01:28 AM
This is a good one. Plenty of You Tube video out there too! ;)
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: dick1172762 on November 19, 2017, 10:19:39 AM
Just watched him race on u-tube. What a master of the tail out driving. Engine sounded like it was at 10,000 rpm. What a driver. Did he die in a race car? Looked like he was a very nice family man. RIP.
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: Pintosopher on November 19, 2017, 03:58:09 PM
Just watched him race on u-tube. What a master of the tail out driving. Engine sounded like it was at 10,000 rpm. What a driver. Did he die in a race car? Looked like he was a very nice family man. RIP.
He passed in an Accident driving an Open wheel Hillclimb car at an Irish Hillclimb. There's an Obit online for some Irish Newspapers  RIP indeed 8)
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: dick1172762 on November 20, 2017, 10:23:25 AM
As fast as he was in the Escort I can't picture how fast he would have been in an open wheel car as shown on U-tube. A truly great driver and a very big lost to mankind. RIP, you were the best.
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: dick1172762 on November 20, 2017, 05:43:27 PM
Take a look at  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwPrwfZdgdM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwPrwfZdgdM)  for more on Simon. He was the best ever shown on here.
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: Pintosopher on November 22, 2017, 08:25:14 AM
Hmm, another T-day lurks , the Time to indulge in Pintosophy is ripe, We know what you want..
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: dick1172762 on November 22, 2017, 08:57:27 AM
We want more turkey, dressing, cranberry, sweet potato pie, more Pintos, etc, etc.
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: Pintosopher on November 26, 2017, 03:36:38 PM
Hmm, the world of the Season is vibrating like a U-joint... Can the masses notice the folly of the day in tyme? There should be a Damper on the ecstasy of the glee perpetuating the blitz? :o
 In the hallowed Stalls of the stables of the lost breeds we pause for reflection and fresh molasses and Oats:
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: dick1172762 on November 27, 2017, 10:03:03 AM
So many great pictures! Please keep up the good work! There are many I have never seen before.
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: dick1172762 on November 27, 2017, 10:07:13 AM
Hmm, another T-day lurks , the Time to indulge in Pintosophy is ripe, We know what you want..
     Look at the people in the grandstands for a race with Pintos. Woeee. We want more!
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: Pintosopher on November 28, 2017, 08:53:38 PM
Hmm, another Hump on the dawn horizon....
 Shall the Dew on the stable roof drizzle onto the Ponies inside? Not! Car covers keep them warm and dry, and the pigeon poop off the paint. :o
 Images for the masses and the minds of the equine enthusiast;;
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: dick1172762 on November 29, 2017, 11:33:56 AM
Why does the under side of the Cheyne Pinto hood look like it chrome plated?
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: Pintosopher on November 29, 2017, 12:54:15 PM
Why does the under side of the Cheyne Pinto hood look like it chrome plated?

 Polished aluminum, I suppose
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: dick1172762 on November 29, 2017, 01:02:30 PM
Only thing I have noticed is the hood has been gutted of all reinforcement around the edges. I'm sure that's why it requires 3 hood pins in the front. But the chrome finish? Who knows.
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: one2.34me on November 30, 2017, 11:56:48 AM

(http://www.fordpinto.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=28066.0;attach=56600;image)
(http://www.fordpinto.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=28066.0;attach=56603;image) (http://www.fordpinto.com/off-topic-general/paradoxical-platitudes-for-pinto-people/?action=dlattach;attach=56602;image)



Love the 88 car! It looks like an old NASCAR Grand National. A lowered Pinto with a set of fatties sure makes a good looking race car!

Pintosopher, is that Kyle Busch in your Pinto? I don't see his can of NOS!

Sorry, I couldn't resist!

Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: Pintosopher on November 30, 2017, 02:02:44 PM
Ahh NO Kyle in my world..., You're forgiven, But that's some Smack! ;D
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: one2.34me on November 30, 2017, 02:08:55 PM
LOL, my apologies, once it occurred to me, I couldn't stop myself!  ::)
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: Pintosopher on November 30, 2017, 02:15:33 PM
That would have been just fine with a "Kurt" reply, My Busch seems to wind up in the Frig and stays chilled until Happy Hour ;)
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: one2.34me on November 30, 2017, 04:32:42 PM

 The best place for them, they can hang out with their Buds. Nyuk nyuk nyuk.
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: Pintosopher on December 01, 2017, 10:41:07 AM
The best place for them, they can hang out with their Buds. Nyuk nyuk nyuk.
Actually no disrespect to Dale Jr, I can't stomach the Buds, so I'm Wiser to avoid it. ;D
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: dick1172762 on December 01, 2017, 12:14:08 PM
I serve Amber Bock to one and all on holidays and never does anyone not like it. If I'm low on cash I get Bud light. After 3 beers they all taste the same any way.
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: dick1172762 on December 03, 2017, 03:49:19 PM
Joe! What do you know about an Irish hill climber named Paddy McGrath?
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: Pintosopher on December 03, 2017, 06:23:12 PM
Joe! What do you know about an Irish hill climber named Paddy McGrath?
I've heard the name before, But then the Irish and the UK take hillclimb racing seriously. Like WRC, it's a religion  ;D
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: Pintosopher on December 04, 2017, 07:06:09 AM
Ponies in the barn, Hmm, a cuddly thought for those who know the sheer joy of Pintosophical existence.
 Should you find yourself outside in the chill, get that cup of Oatmeal to warm the cockles of your spirit and dust off the Horse. You might even sneak in a drive if the world is dry where your stable resides.
 Jennifer has the right idea.. Spread the Joy of the season
 https://i.imgur.com/7vw9NDb.jpg?1
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: dick1172762 on December 04, 2017, 08:49:17 AM
She does have the right idea for sure. Spread the joy and try to live it to the fullest. For those who do not know, Jennifer has the best looking Pinto I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: Pintosopher on December 04, 2017, 09:34:46 AM
Just a Concept , Rough but doable :P I'll have to get this one done in Color, or lose a few brain cells :o
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: dick1172762 on December 05, 2017, 12:43:03 PM
I've heard the name before, But then the Irish and the UK take hillclimb racing seriously. Like WRC, it's a religion  ;D
     I just saw his name on Speed Hunters with an Escort like Simon McKinley raced.
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: Pintosopher on December 06, 2017, 03:44:56 PM
Lots of Pinto in this Ebay ad... ;D
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: dick1172762 on December 07, 2017, 12:23:56 PM
The Escort and the Capri were UK's Pintos. Don't know about the Escort but the Capri's were made in England well after the Pinto's final year. The Capri's and the Escort's have a very large following to this day in England.
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: Pintosopher on December 07, 2017, 01:45:55 PM
The Escort and the Capri were UK's Pintos. Don't know about the Escort but the Capri's were made in England well after the Pinto's final year. The Capri's and the Escort's have a very large following to this day in England.
3 hours left in auction, Bidding has reached $ 10K....
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: dga57 on December 07, 2017, 06:02:59 PM
Uh... the Capri was built in Germany through 1977.  There was no 1978 model, and the 1979 was marketed as a Mercury Capri which was a Ford Mustang clone.


Dwayne
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: Pintosopher on December 07, 2017, 08:26:27 PM
Uh... the Capri was built in Germany through 1977.  There was no 1978 model, and the 1979 was marketed as a Mercury Capri which was a Ford Mustang clone.


Dwayne
Hmm.... do you smell Cologne? Is Annie or Clyde nearby? ;D
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: dick1172762 on December 08, 2017, 12:57:19 PM
Uh... the Capri was built in Germany through 1977.  There was no 1978 model, and the 1979 was marketed as a Mercury Capri which was a Ford Mustang clone.


Dwayne
    Your oh so right Dwayne! I was mixed up because of the great clubs in England for Capri's. I stand corrected!
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: one2.34me on December 08, 2017, 05:26:50 PM
Pintosopher, what is the brand or name of the wheels on the 1971 Escort in your Reply #44 yesterday?
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: Pintosopher on December 08, 2017, 05:35:32 PM
Pintosopher, what is the brand or name of the wheels on the 1971 Escort in your Reply #44 yesterday?
I believe they are Panasports or that Australian clone of the Minilites
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: one2.34me on December 08, 2017, 05:45:15 PM
That's the ones! Thanks Pintosopher
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: dick1172762 on December 09, 2017, 09:12:16 AM
I don't thing your striped to the bone Pinto would look right with Panasports on it. A set of stock car wheels would be better as long as you have a boy racer Pinto for the street. A set of 7/16" hood pin would help with the look too. Two 1/8"X 1" straps over the back window says racer. And of course a rear spoiler on the trunk lid.
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: one2.34me on December 09, 2017, 01:58:28 PM
I agree Dick, a set of Bassett 15x7s would be perfect. I saw a young guy at fabulous Fords with a set on his beater Mustang II this year. Looked great. I've thought about the hood pins for years to lighten the weight of the stock hood latch assembly, and to also lose the hood hinge buckets and hinges. Only problem is, every hole I drill into the body work makes it harder to sell, if necessary. I installed a 1/16" Lexan rear window with a stripped Pinto sedan trunk lid to replace the Runabout hatch. It's much lighter and I like the sedan look more. I'd definitely like to have functional spoiler, (and a reason to need one), on that trunk lid.
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: dick1172762 on December 12, 2017, 12:28:08 PM
The rear spoiler on my Red Pinto race car (when I was autocrossing it) Was bolted to the part of the trunk that hangs down and is about 1" deep. The spoiler was 8" high and 40 something inches long. The bottom 1" was bent at a 45 deg angle and this was bolted to the trunk lid. So the piece of aluminum was 9" X 40 something inches long and made out of .062 (1/16) T-6 aluminum.
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: Pintosopher on December 13, 2017, 10:58:23 AM
The rear spoiler on my Red Pinto race car (when I was autocrossing it) Was bolted to the part of the trunk that hangs down and is about 1" deep. The spoiler was 8" high and 40 something inches long. The bottom 1" was bent at a 45 deg angle and this was bolted to the trunk lid. So the piece of aluminum was 9" X 40 something inches long and made out of .062 (1/16) T-6 aluminum.
Rear View..
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: dick1172762 on December 13, 2017, 11:27:31 AM
The picture of my old red Pinto shows the rear spoiler after it was cut down from 8" to 3" to meet the vintage road racing rules. Same spoiler, just later on. The 8" spoiler fit the SCCA rules for autocrossing. The 3" spoiler fit the SCCA rules for road racing.
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: one2.34me on December 13, 2017, 01:32:01 PM
Your spoiler looks great Dick and thanks for the pic pintosopher. Was the 8" tall, 1/16" aluminum spoiler stout enough at speed, 80 or so, to avoid fluttering? (for lack of a better word)
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: dick1172762 on December 13, 2017, 03:19:22 PM
If you use 1/16" (.062) thick T6 aluminum it will be stronger than the trunk lid. Do not try to bend it yourself as T6 is very strong and will not bend without using a sheet metal brake. Get a piece of aluminum 9" x the width of the trunk lid. Then bend a 45 deg bend on the bottom 1". When you go to mount it, start in the middle of the trunk lid. On my red Pinto the trunk lid was gutted so it formed itself to the spoiler very easily. You may need to shim up the spoiler as T6 will not bend easily and would bend the trunk lid first. Best I can remember I had five 1/4" bolts holding the spoiler on the trunk lid. On the top edge of the spoiler on each end radius the spoiler so as to not stab someone. I did a 1" radius on mine. Easy as pie.
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: Pintosopher on December 14, 2017, 10:05:04 AM
hmmm ho  ho  ho
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: dick1172762 on December 14, 2017, 01:21:24 PM
Merry Christmas to all of our Pinto brothers and sisters through out the world. May 2018 be the year you're wishing it will be.
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: one2.34me on December 15, 2017, 01:35:55 PM
Thanks Dick, Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you, and to all Pinto heads everywhere.
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: Pintosopher on December 15, 2017, 06:41:14 PM
Thanks Dick,
 May we all be blessed with good health, prosperity, and a sense of fellowship that keeps the Barn warm and the Pinto riders dry and full of oats...
 Merry Christmas to all ... ;D
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: Pintosopher on January 08, 2018, 02:12:40 PM
One week into the New Year, and the world is still painting with the Horsetail brush of Equine ignorance. What to do as the frost and Ice partially thaw? We know our rides are cool, the Thumbs up crowd is growing, Soon another Historical article of our interests? We shall see. I would challenge the publishers to do  a heads up comparison of the Vintage racing versions and even a Street legal performance version against a current comparable displacement compact.
 In the meantime, don't let that popsicle outside dim your enthusiasm. Plan , create, and even share ideas, The weather won't last forever.. ;)
 Pintosopher, Apprentice to the scribes of the stable, more manure shoveled than you might imagine ::)
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: Pintosopher on January 18, 2018, 09:34:31 AM
Time waits for no one, Yet the cars keep climbing in interest as they age. What is the value of your survivor or resurrection ride? $24 thousand for a 74 Pinto squire wagon with all the options at a recent Mecum auction.  Orange color too! What can a nicely maintained ride be worth? Yet the one thing that makes all this relevant, Is People! You must be a reasonably good steward of your health to keep the legacy going.
 I spent a bunch on health supplements that could easily go towards the Pinto and the tools to keep the garage ready to maintain them.
 Priorities, Health, Home, then cars and the people in your life. The last two are interchangeabl e given circumstances that vary.. ;)
 Don't let the Pair of Ducks rule your life.. It's a basic principle to happiness 8)
 QVACK Qvack.. :o
Title: Re: Paradoxical Platitudes for Pinto People
Post by: Pintosopher on January 24, 2018, 07:29:41 AM
 The pond of living is full of Ducks sometimes in pairs, mostly fleeing the Buckshot of the Karmic Guns that hunt those daily ;)
 Pinto People live in a Paradox of parts, lost ideas , missing manuals and even  a cross reference or two. But we persevere , and we do find it or modify it to fit. The season gets us in a doldrum, and then we panic and rush to completion before that first show or meet.
 So as the creak of temperatures changing lulls you into a sense of apathy, retrench , reboot, and fight to keep that Horse rolling down the road. Someday, we be in Repop heaven and the Pinto will be immortal.. Be a good steward, and make sure it'll be around for decades. ;)
 Pintosopher a Stable or Lunatic  ranch hand in the Barn :o