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Shiny is Good! => General Pinto Talk => Topic started by: wrastu on September 26, 2018, 04:16:54 AM

Title: New member with Project
Post by: wrastu on September 26, 2018, 04:16:54 AM
Hello all, I didn't see an introduce yourself thread so I guess I will do it here.

Just purchased a 1976 Pony MPG with a 302 in it. Previous owner evidently bought it already built and didn't know alot about it.

I would call it a a back yard find as it had grass clippings for at least 2 or 3 years all over and in it.

Beautiful shade of green mold all over it and lots of patina. It does however have solid sheet metal.

I got it home and got it washed and haven't gotten to far into it yet, but from what I can see so far who ever did it seems to have done it right.

I will try to get some pics posted later today. Looking forward to sponging as much knowledge that I can from you all.

I build motorcycles and mess with cars, make a lot of my own parts, I have 2 lathes and millling machines in my little shop.

Stu
Title: Re: New member
Post by: Reeves1 on September 26, 2018, 10:00:23 AM
Look forward to the pictures etc !
Title: Re: New member
Post by: 71v8Pinto on December 05, 2018, 01:52:04 AM
+1, I would like t see pics as well especially of the engine compartment.

71v8Pinto
Title: Re: New member
Post by: wrastu on December 05, 2018, 02:16:29 AM
WOW, finally I can post again? Every time I tried it said I didn't have access to this page....(My own post even)

Engine bay is still as purchased. I have been working my way forward from the rear. So if this post works I will get some pics and load them up when I get out in the shop later today.

So far I have added a sub-frame connectors from the front to the new redesigned front leaf spring mounts, and I also made some adjustable rear shackle mounts, so I can lengthen or shorten the distance between the spring mounts and also can raise or lower the car by moving the front and rear mounts up and down.

Trunk hump cut out and a new tank will be mounted under the frame I am building in the rear of the car, along with new shock mounts and modified the traction bars that came with the car.

I was sidelined a bit as I changed the 8inch rear gear from 3.00 to a 3.55 added a powertrax and rebuild the rear end.

Reworking the front suspension with urethane bushings all around right now.

More to come
Title: Re: New member
Post by: wrastu on December 05, 2018, 10:19:15 AM
I guess I am not allowed to add pics until someone clears my payment, sorry guys, have to wait
Title: Re: New member
Post by: Reeves1 on December 06, 2018, 08:51:30 PM
Payment ?

Use Imgur

When Photo Bucket went to the pay system, I went with Imgur.
Title: Re: New member
Post by: wrastu on December 06, 2018, 11:47:02 PM
The forum won't let me create a gallery unless I have a subscription.

As for photobucket and Imgur, never used them.

I take that back, seems I do have a Imgur account from a long time ago I didn't remember, guess I ill have to try that tomorrow.
Title: Re: New member
Post by: wrastu on December 08, 2018, 02:38:11 PM
 Pinto comes to new home.
 (https://i.imgur.com/ACbJVmf.jpg)
Title: Re: New member
Post by: wrastu on December 08, 2018, 02:43:28 PM
The Pony was left outside.
(https://i.imgur.com/Y2drtfn.jpg)
Title: Re: New member
Post by: wrastu on December 08, 2018, 02:46:06 PM
Looks like it ain't exactly built for gas mileage.

(https://i.imgur.com/0fSXlAN.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/QNVRtFq.jpg)

Title: Re: New member
Post by: wrastu on December 08, 2018, 02:47:21 PM
Bumpers gettin set-in

(https://i.imgur.com/ANyQaf9.jpg)
Title: Re: New member
Post by: wrastu on December 08, 2018, 02:50:21 PM
After a good bath. Original paint, 53400 miles, solid unibody, with MII 8inch rear

(https://i.imgur.com/BRPrXwz.jpg)
Title: Re: New member
Post by: wrastu on December 08, 2018, 03:27:27 PM
Old Pony gets a subframe.
(https://i.imgur.com/Yqb7goe.jpg)

and suspension changes
(https://i.imgur.com/si2DQd1.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Olx9gA8.jpg)

8inch rebuilt and trutrax locker with new 3.55 gears

(https://i.imgur.com/StZ0EaU.jpg)
Title: Re: New member
Post by: wrastu on December 08, 2018, 03:30:43 PM
working on front end now, threw the rotors in my lathe and turned them.

(https://i.imgur.com/Ho4LhYm.jpg)

Next to reinforce the lower control arms, add 3" lug studs, and energy suspension bushings, QA1 coilovers, and new wheels and skins.
Title: Re: New member
Post by: wrastu on December 08, 2018, 04:07:43 PM
Spare pocket cut out to flatten floor and new nogo boom fuel cell to mounted under the new floor.
 
(https://i.imgur.com/9PcuPFM.jpg)

Rear leaf mounts made adjustable.

(https://i.imgur.com/xPi5pae.jpg)

And front leaf perches also.

(https://i.imgur.com/hYkpML0.jpg)


I think that will bring everything up to date.
Title: Re: New member with Project
Post by: dga57 on December 09, 2018, 06:26:49 AM
Thanks for sharing!  It looks like your project is progressing nicely!

Dwayne :)
Title: Re: New member with Project
Post by: wrastu on December 09, 2018, 11:26:48 AM
LOWER CONTROL ARMS

I wanted to use tubular control arms with coilovers, however the Hooker super comp headers on the drivers side are so close to the lower control arm mount there isn't enough room to fit them in.

SO, I looked at Heidt's which happens to make a tubular lower control arm that fits in and wouldn't be a problem. I am cheap, a little research yielded a ready made brace which is made from sheet steel, well I am cheap remember. SO, I took some steel from the scrap bin and made my own.

Pics are prepped for welding, layed on for fit, and welded.

Saved some money and stiffened up the arms a bit, it isn't an auto cross car, and I doubt the wheels will come off the ground.

The aluminum block is in place just in case the arm would want to warp......it didn't.

(https://i.imgur.com/RyQ6LEG.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/jxihkjT.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/eSWgN3o.jpg)
Title: Re: New member with Project
Post by: Reeves1 on December 15, 2018, 07:41:23 AM
I'm going to do something like that on my blue car. Need to so I can have good tie downs for hauling...good job & keep us up to date !
Title: Re: New member with Project
Post by: wrastu on January 07, 2019, 03:36:42 PM
New NOGO Boom fuel tank.

(https://i.imgur.com/chbl2gb.jpg)

New trunk floor, the black thing is where the fuel filler will go in, the gasket looking black thing is a hockey puck I turned down to use as a gasket.

(https://i.imgur.com/Ougu0oS.jpg)

Battery box will go about where it sits now.

(https://i.imgur.com/oFKBebZ.jpg)

Title: Re: New member with Project
Post by: wrastu on January 07, 2019, 03:41:26 PM
Now for stage 1 (front bumper push in) the crash bumpers gotta go so here it is not finished yet, held up with a couple bolts.

(https://i.imgur.com/2dvadNv.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/aAQLD4Q.jpg)

The sides where trimmed down to match the body lines and will have steel filler panels fabricated to fill and match.

(https://i.imgur.com/ZL06bax.jpg)

The rear comes soon, and then off to powder coat a nice gloss Ford gray.
Title: Re: New member with Project
Post by: wrastu on January 07, 2019, 03:50:21 PM
Now remember this car has the original paint and isn't goin to be painted any time soon, gonna run the "patina" for a while, but as I change things it will get a coat of paint or what ever (Like the under side, saving what I got)

Had to do a new fuel filler, the one I bought was a bit small in diameter so I made a spacer to fill the gap and made it flush.

(https://i.imgur.com/4umXBMv.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/aglcPvB.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/i1myPPU.jpg)
Title: Re: New member with Project
Post by: wrastu on January 07, 2019, 03:53:18 PM
Rear bumper, and tires coming soon, front end got urethane bushings and all new ball joints, with QA1 coil overs, plus new rack boots and bushings, Currie 3" lug studs all around. Did I mention I rebuilt the rear and added a traxlock and swapped out the gear for a 3.55?
Title: Re: New member with Project
Post by: dga57 on January 08, 2019, 12:40:36 PM
LOTS of progress!!!  Well done!


Dwayne :)
Title: Re: New member with Project
Post by: russosborne on January 08, 2019, 06:37:31 PM
Got any pictures of how you connected the fuel cell to the fuel filler?
I'm looking at doing the same thing shortly.
Making a lot more progress than I am that's for sure.
Thanks,
Russ
Title: Re: New member with Project
Post by: wrastu on January 09, 2019, 12:00:29 AM
Got any pictures of how you connected the fuel cell to the fuel filler?
I'm looking at doing the same thing shortly.
Making a lot more progress than I am that's for sure.
Thanks,
Russ

Here is the tank I am using.

http://www.tanksinc.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=product/product_id=83/category_id=133/mode=prod/prd83.htm

Here is the cap/filler I am using.

http://www.tanksinc.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=product/product_id=475/category_id=133/mode=prod/prd475.htm

Here are the hoses I will use to hook up.

http://www.tanksinc.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=product/product_id=104/category_id=167/mode=prod/prd104.htm

I will get some pics as I get it put together, it will be a bit as there are half a dozen things going on at once.
Title: Re: New member with Project
Post by: russosborne on January 09, 2019, 12:33:56 AM
Thanks.
I am trying to think of a way to route the fill hose without being in the car. Not sure I can lower the cell enough.
Thinking I might have to have a raised floor.
I have to pass emissions here also. They check the fuel cap for vacuum or some such thing.
Russ
Title: Re: New member with Project
Post by: wrastu on January 09, 2019, 01:23:01 AM
Thanks.
I am trying to think of a way to route the fill hose without being in the car. Not sure I can lower the cell enough.
Thinking I might have to have a raised floor.
I have to pass emissions here also. They check the fuel cap for vacuum or some such thing.
Russ

I don't have to pass smog here, and the cap I picked does seal and is not vented, the tank has a vent / tip over valve that has to be run to a location higher than the filler neck opening.

The filler hose will run thru the trunk, and I am going to add an aluminum panel over the opening at the back of the rear seat, and an aluminum package shelf cover, so if hit from the rear the gas and fumes shouldn't enter the passenger compartment very easily.
Title: Re: New member with Project
Post by: wrastu on January 13, 2019, 10:30:24 AM
Bumpers, front and rear, not fitted spaced/shimmed perfectly, will fit them better after powder coat, did paint with some gray so I can visualize what they will look like powder coated, pushed in, trimmed, filled.

Not perfect but they will do.

(https://i.imgur.com/hW1uNgr.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/S3ahSCD.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/wtIAmZZ.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/qQR5bHv.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/NDUwyIn.jpg)

 
Title: Re: New member with Project
Post by: wrastu on January 19, 2019, 04:39:14 PM
Snowing like crazy here, and I spent the day helping a friend add OSB to the inner walls of his shop, came home and decided to do the door panels I made the other day.

Got a sheet of AL for various things, decided not to use the destroyed / worn out door panels, so I made some and presto.

(https://i.imgur.com/x6mFdcf.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Qme2T0D.jpg)
Title: Re: New member with Project
Post by: russosborne on January 26, 2019, 02:49:58 AM
Nice.
I've thought about using aluminum, but I would have to just go with plain, no fancy tools.
Russ
Title: Re: New member with Project
Post by: wrastu on January 26, 2019, 10:03:37 AM
Nice.
I've thought about using aluminum, but I would have to just go with plain, no fancy tools.
Russ

Nothing fancy as tools go, a 3M scotchbrite circular disc held in a cheap drill press spun about 500-1500 rpm pressed flat to the surface, I use WD-40 as a wetting/lubricant and free hand away, I use a sharpie to mark some rough lines to follow and over lap each circle to cover the entire surface. Easy peasy.

 
Title: Re: New member with Project
Post by: wrastu on February 11, 2019, 02:48:30 PM
My little pony got new rear booties today.

(https://i.imgur.com/aYsQkRa.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/DXLi58q.jpg)

Title: Re: New member with Project
Post by: one2.34me on February 11, 2019, 09:34:15 PM
Looking really sharp wrastu!
Title: Re: New member with Project
Post by: wrastu on February 13, 2019, 11:13:57 PM
Thanks all for the compliments and encouragement.

Got the C4 valve body out, it is going to Montana to converted to reverse pattern manual shift. Getting new output yoke seal and new u-joints also.

Was replacing the windshield seal/rubber the other day using the string method and got down to the last 3 inches and CRACK. Gonna have a local guy who does a lot of custom and hot rod glass order me a new one and put it in. The other was hazing up on the corners pretty bad anyway, and had permanent marks in the glass from the windshield wipers anyway.

Gonna slow a bit for a couple to three weeks, Wife is having surgery and I will be playing nurse to her.

Stu
Title: Re: New member with Project
Post by: wrastu on February 15, 2019, 07:56:22 PM
Bumpers back from powder coat, first time they were a little to light of a shade of gray, this time they are as close as they are gonna be. My powder coat guy is real good with his want to please the customer, he did the bumpers over no charge, and built it up a bit to hide some of the pitting, it will be fine for a driver.

Put my home made air dam on the front and that's about it for the front.....time to finish the rear bumper.

(https://i.imgur.com/g6ZmUsg.jpg)
Title: Re: New member with Project
Post by: wrastu on February 17, 2019, 01:59:34 AM
Spent the evening working on converting my stock automatic floor shifter to something that will work better with the manual reverse pattern.

I wanted to keep the factory type linkage for the trans instead of changing to a cable that would be real close to the header on the drivers side, and new shifters cost a bundle, so I modified mine to the point I am happy with the way it turned out.

Till have yet to make the pull up lever attachment for the release bar and find a shift knob I like.
Title: Re: New member with Project
Post by: wrastu on March 18, 2019, 12:51:49 PM
Well finally got the door panels mounted.

(https://i.imgur.com/uty3EBv.jpg)
Title: Re: New member with Project
Post by: wrastu on March 18, 2019, 12:59:34 PM
Too cheap to buy a deep pan for the trans, so I made an extension and some line holders for the fuel and trans cooling lines.

(https://i.imgur.com/uKFlm5O.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/frC97le.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/DzmLUY5.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/EhuEhCX.jpg)
Title: Re: New member with Project
Post by: wrastu on March 18, 2019, 01:12:04 PM
Got my home adapted ford floor shifter in, it has reverse lock out and uses the detents from n to 3rd gear, reverse pattern manual valve body now.
Friend of mine made a factory looking cover out of some aluminum scrap, looks enough like the original, but just enough that you look twice and realize it isn't. Had to grind new shift notches, should work ok for now.

(https://i.imgur.com/e9wxhzy.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/uD5rZR0.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/3Au3xQd.jpg)
Title: Re: New member with Project
Post by: wrastu on March 18, 2019, 01:14:38 PM
Had to make a coolant overflow/reserve tank, just because I could.

(https://i.imgur.com/QCvk0o2.jpg)
Title: Re: New member with Project
Post by: dga57 on March 18, 2019, 01:57:37 PM
Looking good!!!

Dwayne :)
Title: Re: New member with Project
Post by: pintoman1972 on March 19, 2019, 09:41:42 PM
Mileage, what mileage? 

When I get asked about millage I tell them I GET 1000 SMILES PER MILE!
Title: Re: New member with Project
Post by: russosborne on March 19, 2019, 11:04:32 PM
Nothing fancy as tools go, a 3M scotchbrite circular disc held in a cheap drill press spun about 500-1500 rpm pressed flat to the surface, I use WD-40 as a wetting/lubricant and free hand away, I use a sharpie to mark some rough lines to follow and over lap each circle to cover the entire surface. Easy peasy.

 

Thanks. Sounds simple enough that even I can do it.
Russ
Title: Re: New member with Project
Post by: wrastu on March 19, 2019, 11:31:31 PM
Thanks. Sounds simple enough that even I can do it.
Russ

Hint/Tip: the nicer (shinier) finish you have before you start jeweling more prismatic the results will be, and a light touch is all that is needed. Test pieces are a good idea.

Stu
Title: Re: New member with Project
Post by: russosborne on March 20, 2019, 12:23:07 AM
Thanks again.
Appreciate the help.
Russ
Title: Re: New member with Project
Post by: wrastu on March 20, 2019, 07:29:48 AM
Mileage, what mileage? 

When I get asked about millage I tell them I GET 1000 SMILES PER MILE!

Sometimes it is how many traffic violations per tank full ::)
Title: Re: New member with Project
Post by: wrastu on March 26, 2019, 11:59:04 AM
Well mostly done for the winter mods, have a smaller carb on the way, need to paint the hood yet, and front end alignment tomorrow hopefully.

But the Old Pony got to got out and stretch her legs around the block and test out the manual valve body.

Still needs a bath, but here she is for this season anyway.

(https://i.imgur.com/2InO2OV.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/1FwOuTo.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ZUUXW0F.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/feDjN72.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/yc7Z3cZ.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/jFxybRm.jpg)
Title: Re: New member with Project
Post by: wrastu on March 30, 2019, 02:23:07 PM
This little car just keeps surprising me. Took off the valve covers to clean them up some and when removed look what I found!

(https://i.imgur.com/XTZSiRW.jpg)
Title: Re: New member with Project
Post by: wrastu on April 13, 2019, 08:33:32 PM
Well it cooling system was having a hard time keeping up so it all came off, but before hand I bought a high volume pump, aluminum radiator, and took it all apart. During disassembly I found the thermostat bypass tube at the thermostat filled with silicone, half the old thermostat blocked by silicone, and the block coolant passages from the water pump half closed off with silicone.

So it is safe to say the previous owner loved applying way too much silicone. But since I had the new parts I went to install them and found the lower drivers side bolt for the block inlet port wouldn't tighten up. D*mn stripped bolt hole. So off comes the timing cover to helicoil or step up to a 3/8 bolt from a 5/16.

What did I find? The bolt had at one time been way over tightened or something had caused the area there to crack all the way through the wall between the coolant passage and the timing chain area. It was smothered in......SILICO NE! After getting it all cleaned up it was clear that the chunk of block could come loose and fall in to the timing gear drive, it was still attached but clearly a problem, the chunk was about 2/3 the size of a golf ball.

Well what to do? New block, take it apart and re-use the parts? Another engine?

NAW, I remembered I had one stick of Certanium 707 from years ago. (Used it for welding Hastelloy C276 and 316 Stainless together) Took the grinder and notched it after knocking off the Arc welding flux on the rod, and used my TIG to weld it up after pre-heating the block as much as I could. Used a grinding disc to smooth it down as best as I could, used a carbide 4 flute angled chamfer bit in a drill to flare the bolt hole and took a little longer bolt, turned the head off and tapped it in the hole and welded around the bolt in the chamfer to make it a stud now.

The thought is if the piece cracks or breaks off there will be leak but the chunk won't end up the timing gear drive as it will be attached to the stud. The weld should hold as it only holds the timing cover and water pump on, it ain't pretty, but now I get to silicone up that area.

I didn't have any proper cast iron rod but have used Certanium 707 in the past on cast iron and never had  problem, and the area will heat and cool uniformly with rest of the block, and isn't exposed to cool air like a manifold would be. Guess this winters project is a to build another engine. 

Will post some pics after it is all together, my welding sucks on this repair and I ain't showing it off.
 
Title: Re: New member with Project
Post by: wrastu on May 20, 2019, 04:47:02 PM
Added a cheapo gilmer drive for the alt and water pump.

Bought some vinyl lettering, will get some pics of that now that the board is back up.

Scored a great deal on an Offy 360 turbo thrust tunnel ram, setting up a couple QFT 450's for it, making my linkage and planning the fuel lines for also.

Picked up a Trick Flow Stage 2 cam, some hyd rollers, next gonna get some new alum heads, and thinking real hard about either 3+1 toploader imposter or maybe a T5 or WCT5.

Put some tunes in a couple weeks ago, had to do the 70/80's 6x9's across the rear package tray, added an amp and a sub.

Picked up a stock hood, gonna need to put a scoop on it for the tunnel ram and didn't want to try and adapt the current fiberglass hood in case I go back to a single 4bbl, and a glass hood with a molded in scoop is over 600 delivered.
Title: Re: New member with Project
Post by: wrastu on May 23, 2019, 05:39:43 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/ahZTerj.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/tnycnth.jpg)
Title: Re: New member with Project
Post by: wrastu on May 23, 2019, 05:41:51 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/OpH2OwM.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ytkXndN.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/RE0kXT9.jpg)

Title: Re: New member with Project
Post by: wrastu on May 23, 2019, 05:42:56 PM
Made some air filter bases and tops for the tunnel ram and carbs

(https://i.imgur.com/drpuWNq.jpg)
Title: Re: New member with Project
Post by: wrastu on June 22, 2019, 06:15:17 PM
For what it's worth, I made a blog type page with pics of projects (bikes and cars) of mine and some of my co-conspirators.

wtfdyb.com aka: WTFDYB Consortium
Title: Re: New member with Project
Post by: 71v8Pinto on July 10, 2019, 03:58:38 AM
Nice work, Sir! Looking great so far.
71v8Pinto