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heads and headers questions.
« on: March 30, 2013, 08:06:51 PM »
Well my fuel injection kit arrived and I'm getting together the pieces to do a fuel injection swap.  I am curious though if I should be running a header with my setup.  The intake I have is an offenhauser 6114dp, 4 barrel throttle body, and I'm planning on getting head work done by bo-port racing - it is there Stage 1 kit which is bigger valves and a stage 1.1 low end torque roller cam.  I'm basically just looking to have a nice cruiser car I may make into a daily driver.  Would I need a header with this or would the stock exhaust manifold suffice?  I was also wondering since I'm going to be using my grandfather's car for some parts if it would make any difference if I pull the heads off that to get worked on or should I use the ones currently on my car.  I'm just thinking I can keep driving my car now if I use the heads off my grandfather's car, which is just sitting.  The heads in my hatchback have only ~45K miles on them and the ones in my grandfather's car have ~120K miles on them.  Not sure if that would make a difference based on the head work I want to have done.  Here is a link to what they do with the stage 1 head job :)
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Re: heads and headers questions.
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2013, 10:08:51 PM »
So you are putting an aftermarket EFI system in an old N/A Pinto 2.3 ? Correct ? A header might help or check some of the Ranger exhaust manifolds....C heck the Rangerstation. com A good question is why didn't you swap the EFI head on to a old 2.3 engine? I would be cheaper and easier...

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Re: heads and headers questions.
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2013, 03:08:16 AM »
what kind of driving (realistically) are you going to be doing with this car?


there is much more to consider before a decision should be made.


what type of trans is in the car now? (or, will you be changing that?)


rear axle ratio?


do you tend to have a 'heavy' right foot?

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Re: heads and headers questions.
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2013, 01:49:19 PM »
To answer some of your questions, I needed a square bore manifold to fit the throttle body of the kit.  The 6114 manifold is supposed to help increase torque across the whole rpm band.  You are correct in that I am putting an efi system on an old 2.3 Pinto.  Realistically, I'm going to be driving it just as a normal car.  As mentioned I may make it into a daily driver depending on how nice it turns out.  I don't have a heavy foot, and the trans is a c3 auto, with the possibility of me putting in a a4ld to get the overdrive.  I'm not sure about the rear axle ratio off the top of my head.

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Re: heads and headers questions.
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2013, 09:31:52 PM »
I'm curious to know how well it works. Try a Ranger header, it has the bung for the oxygen sensor already in it.
 
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Re: heads and headers questions.
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2013, 03:10:37 AM »
try to get a long tube header if you can
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Re: heads and headers questions.
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2013, 08:59:10 AM »
Thanks for the tips.  If I go with the ranger header, do I need to modify anything to make it work?  What years will bolt on and have the oxygen sensor bung?  Thanks!

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Re: heads and headers questions.
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2013, 05:18:25 PM »
Ranger header bolts right on. No mods needed. I think every one has the bung. You will need to cap the EGR tube which supposedly can be done with a simple pipe cap.
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Re: heads and headers questions.
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2013, 08:07:59 PM »
Thanks for the info.  I found some online for not too expensive.  I also found some headers that aren't too expensive either.  They are http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Speedway-23-Ford-Pinto-Late-Model-Headers,31661.html  Not sure if anyone has any experience with them.

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Re: heads and headers questions.
« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2013, 08:23:43 AM »
I got my Ranger header out of a Pik-a-part for 30 bux & it's stainless steel. The only downside I see to the Speedway header is it would rust out after a few years of daily driving, at least in Ohio anyhow.
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Re: heads and headers questions.
« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2013, 09:20:22 AM »
I found a pic I snapped before I pulled my engine with the Ranger header in place.
 
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Re: heads and headers questions.
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2014, 04:27:57 PM »
Pinto 5.0, On your ranger header, what did you do to plug up the egr holes?  What year header did you use?
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