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The higher cost of a Pick Your Part 50% off sale
« on: June 18, 2014, 11:02:12 AM »
Recently I made two purchases at a Pick Your Part 50% off sale. I ran the receipts through a percentage calculator and came up with these results.   My used, 205-60-13” tire at $6.99 was $8.44 out the door. Taxes and environmental fees (whatever they are) represented 17.8% of the cost. The cost goes even higher when you factor in that Pick Your Part says, “They will throw you out” if they find you removing tires from rims yourself.  So, that fee is $3.44 for them to remove the tire. Thus, all fees beyond the cost of the actual tire represent 41.6% of the total cost.   

I also bought two seats. They were $39.99. There were the taxes and environmental fees - plus a $4.00 core charge (also taxed). The out the door price was $51.00. 21.6 % was the taxes, fees and core charge.  Note that cores are not returnable on the sale days. If the sale runs Friday through Monday (a Holiday) you can’t return the core until Tuesday, even if you bought the item on Friday.  Gas round trip from the house to the yard is at least $10 and the time spent is about 2 hours. This pretty much negates ever returning a core. Oh, and the State does not refund the tax charged on the core.

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Re: The higher cost of a Pick Your Part 50% off sale
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2014, 12:37:38 AM »
Wow, nothing like that here at all, the price is what it is no tax even. And never heard of a junkyard 'core' charge before.

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Re: The higher cost of a Pick Your Part 50% off sale
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2014, 01:26:40 PM »
Yep, and the core fees aren't cheap. You have 10 days to return the core (to their satisfaction) and as stated can't return on any sales day.

Core Fee (example):
Short block          $35
Long block           $45
Complete engine $65

 And as mentioned the State taxes the core and then does NOT return the tax when you return the core. In the case of the "complete engine" the core tax is $5.85. So, if for one reason or another you don't have or can't return the core in time your out $70.85 In addition to the cost of the engine.  Then there is the environmental fee. That is hard to get a handle on how they price that. But, it is roughly 5%. Based on the 'complete engine" price of $229.99 it is around $15.

So, assume you buy a "complete" (which really isn't complete) engine, but have no core (or can't return it in the 10 day window):
Engine $229.99, Tax (@9%) $20.70, Core $65, Core Tax (@9%) $5.85 and environmental fee (estimate) $15 Total is $336.54 That is $106 above the "engine" price. Is it possibly you might wonder why so many people move from California to Texas?  There it is (and we won't even talk housing costs!).

 Even a common steel wheel they have a $1.00 core charge ($5 for aluminum wheel).  Here is a link to their full list of regular prices, core charges and warranty (added) price.

http://www.lkqpickyourpart.com/locations/LKQ_Pick_Your_Part_-_Sun_Valley-263/prices/


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Re: The higher cost of a Pick Your Part 50% off sale
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2014, 05:01:28 PM »
Atleast you guys have yards like that still.  In Iowa we have to pay the guy at the salvage yard to take the part off for us.  Also steel turns to rust in the blink of an eye here so pretty much anything older than 1990 has been scrapped  :'( .  I struggled to find more than a couple yards in the whole state with 80's mustangs (to take a T5 from).

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Re: The higher cost of a Pick Your Part 50% off sale
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2014, 01:23:52 AM »
I'm sitting here thinking about the non-refund of tax on core and wondering if that is even legal. Here in Texas it dang sure ain't; you must refund tax on any cores returned. State law........... ...can't collect tax on what turns out to be a non-existent sale. That's collecting money out of thin air.

Just like Walmart here, they started charging tax out of the blue on daily newspapers, I reported them to the state (illegal) and they stopped it pretty quick. They'll do it forever if no one complains.

Thinking more too about the environmental fee, if you bring core back there should be none at all since the net is a zero/zero there. I could see environmental if maybe you didn't bring core back, instead dumping cracked block on side of road.

Man I'm glad I don't do business there.

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Re: The higher cost of a Pick Your Part 50% off sale
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2014, 03:44:32 AM »
Man I'm glad I don't do business there.

That makes at least two of us!!!

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Re: The higher cost of a Pick Your Part 50% off sale
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2014, 07:34:49 AM »
That makes at least two of us!!!

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Re: The higher cost of a Pick Your Part 50% off sale
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2014, 12:48:53 PM »
I search for the California explanation of why the core tax is not refunded. I couldn't find it. But apparently Ohio does the same thing and here is their explanation. I assume California's reasons are similar.

States that do *not* refund sales tax when only the core is returned:
 California
 Ohio
 
 These states essentially view the core charge/deposit as an anticipated rebate. Ohio's wording specifically refers to the core charge as 'part of the aggregate value' of the merchandise in question. Think of all those mail-in rebate offers that you may or may not follow-through on completing. You pay full price in the store, plus sales tax, and then ask the manufacturer for your rebate check. Have you ever expected the manufacturer to reimburse you also for the sales tax that rebate would have saved you in the store?

A search of the Environmental Fee seems to associate it with the cost (to the yard) of dealing with hazardous waste.  Just for clarification the Environmental Fee is not applied to the core. It is applied the item purchased.

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Re: The higher cost of a Pick Your Part 50% off sale
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2014, 01:18:57 PM »
I believe that makes three of us...

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Re: The higher cost of a Pick Your Part 50% off sale
« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2014, 02:11:23 PM »
Makes 4

Great minds think alike!!!

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Re: The higher cost of a Pick Your Part 50% off sale
« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2014, 02:40:03 PM »
I've been a semi-regular at the Sun Valley Pick-Your-Parts and the others (including Willington and Anaheim) for more than 20 years. Gone are the days when there were 2 rows of Pintos, 5 or six first gen Mustangs, etc,etc. Just 4 years ago I picked up 2 T-5s for $70 each. The last time I went to Sun Valley on a 1/2 price day I was shocked at the check out window at the prices (I had not been in a couple of years). In the old days, if you bought a rear end, you paid one price. Now you pay for the axles, backing plates, brake cylinders, and BRAKE PADS no matter however trashed. In defense of their "free enterprise system", they are dealing with the socialist republic of California CARB regulations and no doubt have skyrocketing liability insurance rates. Even with the higher prices, there was no shortage of people lining up to get in or at the checkout windows. Welcome to the new business model. I'm just glad I was able to get most of what I needed for my 3 old cars before their prices really went up big time. They still make sense for the little knic-knac parts that don't make it on Evil-bay so I'm glad I still have the option.


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Re: The higher cost of a Pick Your Part 50% off sale
« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2014, 03:37:20 PM »
And, next time you go be prepared to pay an extra $2.00 for admission to the Primo Yard.  All the "classic" cars are now being moved there. Hummm..., I wonder if they then charge you tax on the $4.00 (total) admission price???   With things like rear ends I think it is best to buy them "drum to Drum." That way you are less likely to be nickeled and dimed.

  But, yea, I ran into a guy that told me I'd probably pay extra for the rails on my seats. And then, as I was waiting to check out I thought "probably the headrest too." But in this recent trip they did not. The seats were $19.99 each ($2 core each) and $51 out the door (Taxes and other fees).  Sometimes I think it depends on who is ringing you  up (or in some cases wrings you out).

I think in the past the perspective was "We're a junk yard. People come here looking to save money." They were car guys. They got "it." Now I think the perspective is, "We're a corporation, profits are everything."  I overheard someone saying that LKQ Corp. is owned by a bunch of lawyers. That pretty much says it all.  Want to see more. Look at how LKQ Corp. has "record" results.  And me, no raise in 7 years - and my work hours cut. http://www.lkqcorp.com/us/en/news/lkq-corporation-announces-record-results-for-second-quarter-2013.aspx

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Re: The higher cost of a Pick Your Part 50% off sale
« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2014, 08:34:23 PM »
The junkyards might also be getting wise to people who get parts "dirt cheap' and turn around and sell them via ebay, craigslist, etc.  to make a profit.

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Re: The higher cost of a Pick Your Part 50% off sale
« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2014, 07:11:35 PM »
'Sometimes I think it depends on who is ringing you  up.....'

I saw that here as well in a couple places, but they quickly rotated those guys out the door. Here the yards are located in long strings, if one guy does that you walk down 30 feet to find the guy who doesn't. One guy in particular was a Ford yard only and specialized in only late model stuff and scarfed up all the Foci for awhile, until customers quit supporting him to make him leave. The moron actually groused if you damaged any part taking your desired one off, he expected you to buy say main wiring harness if the sensor did not come loose from it. And trying to charge like 60% of new price. Refused to torch off any major body metal at all, he expected you to buy entire unibody. The big Hispanic quotient here will not go for that gouging at all. Of course, once the limited parnerships lacking new revenue streams lock onto this potential they will buy all of them up at once and same thing will be here as well. Lots of exploitation to be done here.

The motorcycle contingent here already went that way, they all adopted factory parts manuals and then went to charging 50% of any part at dealer and half of them promptly folded. The others left are way too high. I used to frequent them all the time but cost pried me loose fast. Went from say $300 motor to as much as $1500 for motorcycle engine (even single cylinder) overnight, you can kiss that idea dead on arrival.

Back in the '80s there was an AMC only yard that figured out he had a segment sewed up and did same thing and parts tripled overnight, not so fast, he forgot how small the segment was and his clientele dried up overnight to fold him. Before he did that he had plenty of business. I was hoping another yard owner would buy it up to go back to the norm but it got bought by someone out of state and all parts shipped elsewhere.