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Shiny is Good! => General Pinto Talk => Topic started by: PappiesGran on June 17, 2021, 07:48:32 PM

Title: Does anyone know anything about, or seen, a Gran Pinto??
Post by: PappiesGran on June 17, 2021, 07:48:32 PM
I recently bought a 1977 Pinto Wagon.  It was so unique, and in such rust-free shape, that I had to have it! It has a factory-installed "GRAN" insignia above the Pinto insignia on both front fenders, and a gold colored coat of arms metal emblem on both rear fenders.  It has "GT" stamped under Trim, on the factory label on the door post.  It was built in Canada. 

I would love to know how many of these were built, but don't want to pay the $80US to get it from Marti....

THANKS!!
Title: Re: Does anyone know anything about, or seen, a Gran Pinto??
Post by: Wittsend on June 17, 2021, 08:03:50 PM
There are a few Canadians here...,. when they post. Interesting that as I'm reading the post I'm thinking , 'Is this a Canadian Pinto?' And sure enough you stated it near the end. Hopefully someone can give you more information.


Even though I'm in So. Cal. my '64 Studebaker Daytona, '73 Plymouth Valiant and my wife's 2010 Honda Civic were all made in Canada. Go figure.
Title: Re: Does anyone know anything about, or seen, a Gran Pinto??
Post by: Reeves1 on June 18, 2021, 09:06:01 AM
Don't recall any up here......but I did not follow the newer ones much at all.

If I were you, I'd pay for the Marti report !
Title: Re: Does anyone know anything about, or seen, a Gran Pinto??
Post by: TIGGER on June 18, 2021, 02:24:18 PM
That looks like part of a Gran Torino emblem?  I have never heard of a Gran Pinto either.
Title: Re: Does anyone know anything about, or seen, a Gran Pinto??
Post by: dga57 on June 18, 2021, 03:40:56 PM
I'll second that comment about the Gran looking as if it came off a Gran Torino.  But then again, Canadian cars are a bit different than U.S. cars. 


Dwayne
Title: Re: Does anyone know anything about, or seen, a Gran Pinto??
Post by: Wittsend on June 19, 2021, 12:58:24 PM
I did some searching but never found a Gran Pinto.  I did find Canadian brochures that were in French. Maybe the "Gran" term has some purpose there. If it was a factory authorized badging perhaps it was something the dealer did, or maybe just an owner added badge? I found a USA (New York) Pinto wagon that seemed very well equipped but still lacked the "Gran" badging. And given the Bobcat was available a distinctively elite Pinto would seem unnecessary. That said I am aware that Canadian cars often got different names especially in the 60's-70's. So who knows??? Lastly I came across a PINCAT (Pinto?) but with Mercury on the hood. Never seen that before.
Title: Re: Does anyone know anything about, or seen, a Gran Pinto??
Post by: dga57 on June 19, 2021, 10:01:44 PM
That Pincat photo is interesting.  I was selling Lincoln-Mercury vehicles in 1979-80 and I can attest that nothing like that was ever offered in the U.S.  I notice the tags say Nova Scotia so that could be the answer, or it may simply be a add-on stripe kit.  40+ years later, I doubt anyone really knows.

Dwayne :)
Title: Re: Does anyone know anything about, or seen, a Gran Pinto??
Post by: Wittsend on June 20, 2021, 11:03:44 AM
THAT Pincat is the ONLY reference I can find regarding a Pincat ANYWHERE on the internet whether in text or image. It shows up a number of places including this link to a list of Mercury vehicles ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mercury_vehicles ) but it is always the same exact image. You would think it is a factory added graphic given its size. Being a Canadian car I wonder if "Pin" translates to something similar to "Bob" in French. Although in Nova Scotia I believe they speak English. Well a modified version anyway. That Bad Chad guy always says, "Cuuurz" when he means Cars.
Title: Re: Does anyone know anything about, or seen, a Gran Pinto??
Post by: Dtmix on June 24, 2021, 04:05:12 PM
I am not aware of a "Gran Pinto" or a "PinCat." I wonder if the dealer was both a Ford and Mercury dealer, and to keep his cost down, he fabricated PinCat so he can use it interchangeabl y between the Bobcat and Pintos?  If that is the case, he is mighty cheap, to say the least!  LOL.

I know that Canada's Bobcats were available as early as 1974 (using the grille that is associated with the American 1976's Pintos).

The Gran emblem is definitely an exact match to the ones used on the Ford Gran Torino, so I suspect the previous owner took some liberties to make his/her Pinto grander! However, read further for additional meaning....

In response to your comment about translations.. .a quick Google search shows that Gran Pinto and Grande Pinto is Portuguese for ahem, a big dick (their word, not mine).  Thus, the previous owner definitely took some liberties...

I will keep my eyes peeled for these oddities, as I also collect car brochures. If I come across one regarding the PinCat, I will reach out to you to share my findings.

Happy Motoring,
Dan

Title: Re: Does anyone know anything about, or seen, a Gran Pinto??
Post by: 65ShelbyClone on July 17, 2021, 10:17:10 PM
I have my doubts that the badges were "factory"-installed. It's more likely IMO that they were dealer-installed if not put on after purchase. With how the "GRAN" typeface doesn't match the Pinto script and isn't even aligned with it, I don't think Ford would have done it that way.
Title: Re: Does anyone know anything about, or seen, a Gran Pinto??
Post by: PappiesGran on October 19, 2021, 10:45:52 PM
My Gran Pinto was a factory build, as far as I can tell.  The factory Trim entry on the door tag is "GT", which means Grand Touring, and the chrome emblems are mounted with the factory rubber insets.  One "Gran" emblem was missing, when I bought it, so I ordered one from EBay, off a Gran Torino, and it snapped right in.  The brass coat of arms emblems on the back fenders looks to be factory mounted, as well.  I don't recall if the Torinos had those????

I guess I will pay the $80US to get the details I am looking for.

THANKS, to all who replied -- sorry for the delay in responding!
Title: Re: Does anyone know anything about, or seen, a Gran Pinto??
Post by: dga57 on October 20, 2021, 07:01:38 AM
Please share the results of the Marti Report when you receive them... then we'll all have learned something!
Thanks in advance,
Dwayne :)
Title: Re: Does anyone know anything about, or seen, a Gran Pinto??
Post by: PappiesGran on October 20, 2021, 10:43:16 PM
Will do!
Title: Re: Does anyone know anything about, or seen, a Gran Pinto??
Post by: JoeBob on October 22, 2021, 12:28:46 AM
About 15 years ago a member somehow mixed hood parts from a pinto and bobcat. I could be wrong but I think he went by the name Cookieboy. He called his car the Pincat. Found it here it is.   The Pincat 2011 (fordpinto.com) (https://www.fordpinto.com/your-project/the-pincat-2011/msg118274/#msg118274)
Title: Re: Does anyone know anything about, or seen, a Gran Pinto??
Post by: dga57 on October 22, 2021, 07:33:11 AM
About 15 years ago a member somehow mixed hood parts from a pinto and bobcat. I could be wrong but I think he went by the name Cookieboy. He called his car the Pincat. Found it here it is.   The Pincat 2011 (fordpinto.com) (https://www.fordpinto.com/your-project/the-pincat-2011/msg118274/#msg118274)

I had totally forgotten about that!!! :o   I guess that was ten years ago, but still... :-\


Dwayne