Funny I was just talked to a former Fiero owner two days ago, his stories were much like ours. His story was it was only one model that had the problem and they fixed it, but by that time the story had gotten to far along the eputation was solidified and the care was dead. :accident: I still feel that killing of the Pinto kept it dear to us, if 1981 had brought abouta Ford escort with a Pinto badge on it, it would not have been the same. Times changed and so did cars, the very next year everything became tin not steel. The escort, the chevette, the colt. The Pinto stayed true right through its run.