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« on: November 30, 2020, 06:46:02 AM »
Dwayne,

As you are monitoring the site, and it appears the founder, Scott Hamilton is busy with other things...maybe you can answer a quick question. I paid my membership dues, but my home page shows me as "inactive " rather than a "charter" member. You and I have been talking with one another quite a bit so it's clear that neither of us as well as many others enough to know we are definitely not "inactive".   Chuckling...

I also see that the store is out of stock for some time being. Who is managing this as I would love to have window decals and shirts! If there is no one... Is there a need for a member to step up to do the store? If you show me how to do this, I could do some of it but I want safeguards in place as for the money or funding to protect myself and the club.

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« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2020, 08:32:31 AM »
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A quick check showed me that you submitted your payment on October 18th.  Scott generally handles all that stuff but apparently this slipped past him. The payment status was "pending" because no one ever accepted it.  With no access to the site's financial records, I have no idea whether it actually posted or not, so you might want to check your records.  Meanwhile, I trust you and went ahead and accepted the payment and changed your designation to Charter Member.  Due to the delay in getting that activated, instead of the one year subscription, I extended it to reach through June of 2022; a little better than eighteen months and offer my apologies for the lapse.


The decals were part of an early program which fell by the wayside many years ago.  There was interest in renewing it a few years ago but it was cost prohibitive.  Scott did say afterwards that he had something in the works in that regard but then there was no follow-up.  Honestly don't know what the status is on that, but if new ones become available, I will see to it that you get one. 


Likewise, the traffic on this site took a huge hit several years ago when a Facebook version emerged and our store traffic essentially stopped.  Again, this is not an area I'm normally active in so I would urge to reach out to Scott and see exactly what the status is and what role you might be able to take in it.  He stays ridiculously busy and answers sometimes take awhile, but I've never known him to not answer.  If that happens however, PM me and I'll give you my personal email address, you can write to Scott and send it to me, and I'll forward it to his personal email address. 


The Charter Membership is relatively inexpensive and offers access to all the information on the site.  There is a lot here that you can't access with just a regular membership.  Funds from that are what help keep us alive and running.


Hope this helps!


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« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2020, 02:58:14 AM »
How much is the membership? Ive been letting new people to the Facebook group know that there is a forum also.

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« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2020, 08:04:58 AM »
How much is the membership? I try and help the forum by letting new people to the Facebook group know about the forum.





General membership is free.  Charter membership is $20 per year and includes access to areas of the forum you can't access with a general membership.  While we exist cordially with the Facebook PCCA, our big advantage over Facebook is our 21-year archive of knowledge and information contributed by approximately 8000 members over the years.  Facebook is better for instant gratification, but we are the better source for experience and expertise. 

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« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2020, 08:43:27 AM »
Well said Dwayne !

The V8 site drives me crazy ! Each week a new guy asking for a parts list to do one & I (finally) gave up telling people the Mustang ll frame mounts do not work for the early cars. They off set the engine too far to one side & the drive line geometry is all wrong.
Seems no one checks this & doesn't care.
Not to mention, they condone GM engines in Fords.
I don't post there much anymore....

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« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2020, 11:00:29 AM »

To me Facebook is like an endless stack of old newspapers. Acceptable for what's happening at a given moment in time but not so much otherwise. Here at the PCCA it is more like a set of encyclopedias on a shelf for reference. If you don't know what a newspaper or an encyclopedia are..., I've lost you already.


The internet can be great when it involves facts..., but far less so when it involves opinions. It amazes me how people can follow someone like "B is for build" on You Tube. While the guy does have enthusiasm he is often clueless as to what he is doing. Yet you question his actions in the comments and his defenders come right down on you. It reminds me of one day at work, I walked into the office and in reference to someone who had an inflated opinion of himself my colleague said to me, "If (name) ever made a record he would call his first album his Greatest Hits."  :D

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« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2020, 11:20:04 AM »
Yay! I am officially a Charter Member! Thanks for looking into this on Scott's behalf.

I would be happy to look into the idea of decals, shirts, and related store items, but do not want to step on Scott's toes as he is the founder and can imagine it is his baby! Just let him know of my willingness to help, and he can email me if this is something that he wants my help or not.

As for Facebook, I think that I would be the only person in America, if not the world, that does not have a FB page! Chuckling...it's due to the nature of my job as a psychotherapis t. Sigh...

Maybe there could be some links added to view pictures of interests from FB to our membership page or maybe the person who monitors the PCCA's FB page can copy and repost pictures onto tbe this website? Just thinking out loud...

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« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2020, 11:39:41 AM »


Maybe there could be some links added to view pictures of interests from FB to our membership page or maybe the person who monitors the PCCA's FB page can copy and repost pictures onto tbe this website? Just thinking out loud...



Actually, the two sites are separate entities despite sharing a name.  We were online first but the Facebook site was unaware of our existence when they launched their site with exactly the same name!  Their site had already gained some traction before they became aware of this one, at which point they reached out to Scott with an offer to change their name.  Rather than force them into that, the decision was made to allow them retain the name and link the two sites together in order to compliment one another.  After all, we weren't competing; we both had the same focus on preservation and promotion of the Ford Pinto.  For technological reasons that I do not understand (Scott's the computer guru, not me) we were unable to ever get them linked.  Personally, I think it's a shame because they could have been great together.  Our activity suffered and membership dropped as people jumped onboard with Facebook in search of instant gratification.  We have absolutely nothing against the Facebook PCCA but I firmly believe we have a lot more to offer the serious Pinto owner. 


Just for the record, I do not have a Facebook presence either. 

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« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2020, 01:48:25 PM »
A miracle...ther e's one another person without FB presence! Chuckling...

Maybe when Scott finds a free moment, he could reach out to the FB contacts as we have no idea who they are and ask them to "fix" the issue as it was cough, cough, their doing in the beginning that caused the bump in the road? It would be nice to increase the presence of this awesome source of info...but again, maybe not?

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« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2020, 03:49:59 PM »
A miracle...ther e's one another person without FB presence! Chuckling...

Maybe when Scott finds a free moment, he could reach out to the FB contacts as we have no idea who they are and ask them to "fix" the issue as it was cough, cough, their doing in the beginning that caused the bump in the road? It would be nice to increase the presence of this awesome source of info...but again, maybe not?

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I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for that!  lol  As I said, the decision was made to allow them to exist under that name, but even a name change for the Facebook site probably wouldn't have changed things.  It's faster and, in many ways, more appealing to some users.  Our ace in the hole is our archives... and true Pinto people still appreciate that.

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« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2021, 04:57:26 PM »
I know this is an old topic, but I was gone for a while so there's that lol. Part of the reason was being on facebook more often. It's easier to be on the facebook page as it's there.
Now I will say that they do refer people to this site and what has caused some issues is when this site is down for whatever reason, sometimes for days at a time. Yes, upgrades and systems have issues but that makes it tougher for people to come back to the site.
Do I frequent there more than here? At times yes. It's easier to frequent where you're already at. But there are more opinionated people which cause some issues. Makes it hard to want to post with the "keyboard warriors"

Like those who tell me I should scrap my wagon instead of trying to fix it even though I just bought the car lol. Both could operate interconnected, but websites like this one in general don't get the traffic they used to because of the ease of use for a platform where people are already at. The one thing that makes it confusing is them using a banner which is a screenshot of the main page. It gives the appearance of the site being a part of the facebook page, instead of separate entities.

Now I will say I belong to a square body page on facebook, as well as their separate forum. They are run by the same people but they even suffer loss of foot traffic even though it's the same owners. Comes back to what I mentioned about ease of use. If you're there you're going to navigate on there instead of going elsewhere. Although if they keep banning and restricting people they will scare users off.
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« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2021, 08:40:05 PM »

"It's easier to be on the facebook page as it's there."

"It's easier to frequent where you're already at."


Could you elaborate:


1.  How is Facebook "There?"  Like even if one try's and avoids it you can't make it go away?


2. What makes it easier to frequent (referring to the Facebook PCCA) when you are already there (meaning Facebook)?


To me I turn on my computer as one would turn on a phone. I open Google as one might open Facebook (and could program my computer to do so without prompting - if I wanted to). I have a tab at the top of the Google browser linked to the PCCA forum. Two mouse clicks and I'm on the Forum. If I wanted to I could be there just turning on the computer having Google self boot to the PCCA website. So, I'm not understanding what makes it an arduous task to get to the PCCA Website over Facebook???


  I'm just an old fart and maybe I just need to be enlightened. That said the few Facebook pages I've been allowed to see without being a member seemed like all the information was on an endless winding scroll and lacking categorization . But what do I know.  I'm not Rob Lowe, and I still have cable.  ::)

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« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2021, 04:23:42 PM »
Allow me to clarify and enlighten you lol.

I get being old school and as someone who frequents Facebook on a regular basis it is easier to post on there, as you are already on the site and don't have to navigate from one site to the other.  You receive the notifications along with all other notifications for posts on facebook so it is all inclusive.

A one-stop-shop if you will.

Not everyone wants to go to multiple different forums. Have multiple usernames. multiple favorites.

The art of a dedicated website such as this forum is a dying breed. While they exist they have lost traction to the one stop shop format of Facebook.
The two sites not operating as one entity, promoting both make it appear as two separate working against another, even if one has more knowledge.
There are some who are current members on here that are more active on there due to ease of use. If you're already there why navigate?
Are there archives on this site that are helpful? Yes but only as helpful as those who come to the site and search.

People want it now. no clicks. simple and easy.

As I mentioned I am a member on a square body forum for my truck. They are now pushing people to the Facebook page. Why? Possibly due to cost and maintenance.
They won't have to maintain the facebook page like they do the forum. There are down sides however, as technically Facebook is allowing the group to function on their platform. Therefore they do not have owner's rights and it can be removed at any time for whatever reason Facebook sees necessary.
There are pluses and minuses to both. However it does seem the social media option has gained accessibility and functionality over separate dedicated web forums such as this.

Sad to say it's reality that is hitting not only this site but others like it.

As you mentioned as a non-member you can't see much that would be helpful, however as a non-member you cannot see everything a member sees, especially as more and more pages are going private due to spammers and scammers.

It's hard to say one is better than the other but does come down to ease and quickness. If someone is already there why go somewhere else? Do I still frequent here? Yes. However even when I'm not on here I am there because unless I stop facebook entirely I'm already there. That's what makes it more viable and sustainable. It doesn't seem to be going away. As to how long it'll take before it severely impacts more sites is an unknown. I've seen some sites shut down. Hopefully that won't happen to this site but I've seen too many go away to say that it's a 100% guarantee that it won't happen.
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« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2021, 10:10:42 PM »
Thank you for the time spent to explain. It was quite detailed. I guess for me when I see the masses rushing to "the next great thing," I pull back because there is often a "catch." Never saw a Star Trek movie, never saw a Star Wars movie, never owned an Apple product and I never had Facebook, Instagram, Twitter etc.. I'm content to be a "Loner" wandering the little used path. Maybe that is why I'm here. LOL

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« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2021, 07:16:59 AM »
Thank you for the time spent to explain. It was quite detailed. I guess for me when I see the masses rushing to "the next great thing," I pull back because there is often a "catch." Never saw a Star Trek movie, never saw a Star Wars movie, never owned an Apple product and I never had Facebook, Instagram, Twitter etc.. I'm content to be a "Loner" wandering the little used path. Maybe that is why I'm here. LOL

You and I sound like two peas in a pod!!!  lol 

When I was in my twenties however, I was quick to embrace any new technology that came along.  I bought my first VCR (top-load, wired remote, and a 2-day timer... all for the princely sum of about $900) at a time when if I told someone about my new acquisition they inevitably asked, "A what???"  When I repeated it, their next question was, "What does it do?"  If I got so far as to actually explain its capabilities, they'd usually chuckle and ask, "Come on, what does it really do?"  It didn't take me long to figure out that it made much more sense to wait for advancements and price reductions.  Decades later, I purchased my last new VCR (front-load, wireless remote, a 14 day timer and a DVD player thrown in for good measure) for about $50.  Likewise I bought my first cell phone when they were heavy, clunky, and huge.  Ridiculously expensive, and far more inconvenient than I had ever imagined. 

My employer furnishes me an iPhone so I'm familiar with that technology and, I admit, it's pretty amazing... but I don't see myself ever dropping that kind of money on a cell phone.  My personal little flip phone is enough to satisfy me. 

I don't have, nor want, a Facebook account - but my wife does.  If there's something I'm particularly interested in, I can access it.  If you don't literally "live" on Facebook, then I fail to see how their Pinto site is any more easily accessible than this one.  I still like the archived information here and my few forays onto the Facebook site yielded an endless scrolling adventure and very little information.  Still, to each his own.  The 20-something-year-old me would have probably embraced it with open arms.  Just for the record, I'm 64 now and that probably accounts for most of my opinions on this subject.

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« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2021, 07:31:34 AM »
Oh yes there is a catch. The catch is Facebook is essentially in control of the content which is a downside to it. Where here you have admins and moderators such as Scott , Dwayne, and others they have the same but also Facebook employees who monitor groups and remove questionable content that may be deemed as ďagainst community guidelines ď. A major downfall as frequently they use a bot to review key words and phrases. Bots canít take direct context so people get penalized for saying something the bot deems as threatening and violent when it may be purely innocent.

The plus is the ease of use and not having to worry about maintenance and cost. The downside is using someone elseís platform so they have the ability to remove questionable content even if it is harmless.

Unfortunately these days the downside is enough to get people to complain but not act by leaving the site. Iím just as guilty as the next with that but I also choose to frequent some websites on and off. Havenít been on the square body or J body pages in about 2 years and it was probably on and off about that for this page as well lol.


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« Reply #16 on: August 31, 2021, 01:34:32 PM »
"You and I sound like two peas in a pod!!!  lol "

Yes, even sharing the same age!

When I went to school for my eventual career (Television Production) there was ONE guy in the whole class who's family owned a VCR and yes, it cost $900 in 1977 dollars. Today everyone has a TV Studio in their phone! I inherit my wife's old cell phones. My main computer is a desktop I-5, 8GB I bought at a yard sale for $20. Lacking a hard drive my son donated a FREE SSD and since it was a Dell they allowed free Windows 10 recovery downloads based off the service code.

I could go on and on (my 21 year old daily driver Mazda Protege I bought ten years ago for $900) but suffice it to say I'm a minimalist who lives 5+ years in the past for pennies on the dollar. It is like I only look backwards and advance after the sun sets on the horizon. On the other hand I have never been strangled by debt and find contentment in "making do" and "McGuyvering" my way through life. This way of living is my real world "Video Game" that keeps me amused and entertained. Maybe when I'm 80 I'll see value in joining Facebook. Got to make it to 80 first though. 
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« Reply #17 on: August 31, 2021, 01:38:27 PM »
"You and I sound like two peas in a pod!!!  lol "

Yes, even sharing the same age!

When I went to school for my eventual career (Television Production) there was ONE guy in the whole class who's family owned a VCR and yes, it cost $900 in 1977 dollars. Today everyone has a TV Studio in their phone! I inherit my wife's old cell phones. My main computer is a desktop I-5, 8GB I bought at a yard sale for $20. Lacking a hard drive my son donated a FREE SSD and since it was a Dell they allowed free Windows 10 recovery downloads based off the service code.

I could go on and on (my 21 year old daily driver Mazda Protege I bought ten years ago for $900) but suffice it to say I'm a minimalist who lives 5+ years in the past for pennies on the dollar. It is like I only look backwards and advance after the sun sets on the horizon. On the other hand I have never been strangled by debt and find contentment in "making do" and "McGuyvering" my way through life. This way of living is my real world "Video Game" that keeps me amused and entertained. Maybe when I'm 80 I'll see value in joining Facebook. Got to make it to 80 first though. 
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« Reply #18 on: August 31, 2021, 03:00:25 PM »
Yes, we live in a very fluid world. My "Television Career" kept me at the college I was training at, to being the student tech assistant, to being the head Studio Tech to teaching Television Production all at the same school. Was there 36 continuous years in all. They had built a wonderful new library with scores of computer stations on the lower level. This was a major advancement at the time.

Anyway, I rarely entered the area but one day had reason to be there. I found it rather shocking that rather than research, 99.9% of the people were on My Space. I'll never forget the look on one of the young woman's faces as she logged in that her whole essence of being seemed dependent upon favorable responses. I think then and there I decided that I'd rather be a "Loner" than captivated by the lure of social media. I'm sure people can have social media be beneficial to their lives but like all things..., 'in moderation.' And now, back to our regular scheduled programming: Pinto's!

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« Reply #19 on: August 31, 2021, 03:01:51 PM »
I need to get motivated to get a new cut off wheel so I can cut my 80 to pieces. I call it constructive destruction. Cut up one I donít like to fix one I wanted lol!


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« Reply #20 on: September 01, 2021, 07:44:49 AM »
Wittsend,

I was pretty sure when I wrote before that you and I are the same age but refrained from saying so because if I was wrong, I didn't want to insult you.  I can generally see the value in new technology but I've also learned the wisdom of waiting for it be perfected and for the prices to fall.  I bought my current computer new (a Dell all-in-one desktop with a touch screen) nearly nine years ago and it still suffices.  Although I have access to an iPhone, I've never used it to access this site or any other social media.  My wife's Facebook account was originally set up so she could keep in touch with her cousins in Tennessee and it has served her well in that respect.  Since the pandemic, our church has been livestreaming worship services so she has been able to watch those.  As a paid staff member there (I have been the organist for over 20 years), I've been involved in the production of those livestream services, not only in the music ministry, but by personally donating the necessary broadcast equipment for that and our outdoor drive-in services which we transmitted to FM car radios.  My wife is the daughter of two ordained pastors, grew up in church, and loves that her chosen church is available to her at home now.  I'm also the front man for a bluegrass gospel trio that sometimes performs for the church services, so those have been going out over Facebook for about a year-and-a half as well.  Interestingly, it caught the attention of a Baptist church (we're United Methodist) about five miles down the road and they asked if we'd pre-record some music for their online services as well.  In all, we recorded 24 songs for them. 

The one place where you and I part ways is that I do embrace new automobile technology and therefore, keep newer vehicles around.  My wife was severely handicapped by a stroke in 2007 and can no longer drive but I still maintain two late-model vehicles which serve as my daily drivers on a bi-weekly basis.  This week I'm driving my 2020 Ram 1500 Limited 4x4.  It is both capable and luxurious and if I were single, it would be my lone vehicle.  On the opposite weeks (and anytime Gloria goes with me) my ride is a 2020 Lincoln Corsair Reserve AWD.  It's smaller than anything I've owned in a long time but I really, really like it.  It's powered by an economical 2.0 Ecoboost engine that is simply amazing.  Its comfort level is comparable to that of the 2017 Lincoln Continental that preceded it and it is blissfully maneuverable in tight spaces.   Both vehicles are equipped with 360 degree cameras, onboard navigation, and adaptive cruise control that make me feel just a little safer as I age.  Monday morning I used it to take my twin aunts out for breakfast to celebrate their 91st birthdays and they were able to get in and out without any issues; not something that would have happened if I'd driven the truck instead.   While I thoroughly enjoy a little outing in the Pinto from time to time, I'm not much of a mechanic and I much prefer up-to-date reliable vehicles for my day-to-day driving. 

I think however, you and I would see eye-to-eye on more things than not; I certainly do not live a lavish lifestyle.  Here's to both of us making it to eighty!!!

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« Reply #21 on: September 07, 2021, 11:34:25 PM »
I am only 56, and feel that my ability to keep up with all the technological advances is lagging beyond! Now I know how my late father felt when I admonished him for not setting the ever-flashing clock or recording on the vcr to start and end at a specific time. I remember how he would  press record and go to bed. He only wanted to see one thirty minute sitcom. LolÖ

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« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2021, 08:01:30 AM »
Dan,

You just made me laugh out loud!  I'm "only" 64 but I did a totally senior thing yesterday.  Now, in order to see the humor in this, take into consideration that we have the top cable package available through our provider, for which I pay in excess of $300 per month.  It features OnDemand as well, and over the years we have purchased entire series such as Big Bang Theory, Third Rock From the Sun, New Girl, Two Broke Girls, etc.  These generally sell for about $20 per season each.  We do this because in the early Spring and late Summer, we find there is absolutely nothing broadcasting that interests us.  Most of these series have been watched in their entirety at least twice.  Neither of us are sports fans so we're now in the midst of rather dry spell, programming-wise.  We have a Roku streaming device that we received several years ago as a gift but I've never bothered to figure out how it works so it's useless.  I commented to Gloria over the weekend as we were watching Third Rock From the Sun for a third time that I missed having a DVD player.  We actually own probably close to hundred DVDs that we've never watched!  Some were gifts and some were purchases that we never had the time to watch before we replaced our trust old VCR/DVD combo with a DVR some years ago.  She asked, "do they still make them?" and to be honest, I didn't know.  A quick online search told me that they do, so I went by Walmart and picked one up Monday morning; nothing fancy, just a basic DVD player which supposedly came with everything needed to hook it up.  Our den television is a 65-inch wall mounted set with all wiring run through the wall for a neat installation.  It has HDMI ports available on the right side which is good because that's how this DVD player connects.  I had a dickens of a time getting that HDMI cable plugged in because it's 12-14 inches from the edge of the set and it's hard to slide your hand in there, position the plug correctly, and push it into place.  The cable that came with the DVD player was only four feet long and would not reach the access hole into the wall!  As a temporary measure, I decided to place the DVD player on a small table with its black cable exposed.  The power cord is only three feet long and could just barely reach the one available receptacle, so I ended up with the player on a small table with the HDMI cable coming from the TV on its left, and the power cord continuing toward the right to the receptacle.  It looked terrible, but it worked!  We started into a seven-disc set of the lost episodes of The Carol Burnett Show which we purchased in 2015.  It was still in the wrapper!  Tuesday I was out playing music so I couldn't turn my attention back to properly installing this thing until last evening.  Went back to Walmart, purchased an additional $50 worth of stuff, and dived in.   They had HDMI cables in six foot and twelve foot lengths but nothing in between.  Deciding to err on the side of caution I went with the twelve-footer which I had to wrap up around the TV mounting bracket to take up slack.  Then I couldn't guide it into the access hole in the wall without removing the lock rod from the bracket and pulling the bottom of the television outward, away from the wall.  That was fun!  Got it in and fished it back out through the egress hole below it and re-secured the television.  From there, I threaded the HDMI cable in through the hole in the back of the media cabinet below the television and the power cord out through the same hole to go to the receptacle.  I added a six-plug receptacle-mounted surge protector in order to accommodate the power cords for the TV, DVR, and DVD player.  Done!  Turned it on and it didn't work!  Starting at the receptacle, I retraced my steps and found that the HDMI cable connection wasn't properly seated at the television.  Oh, if I'd only started my retrace at the other end!  lol  So... at age 64 I can even be challenged by old technology!  That's why the description of your dad's VCR recording skills made me laugh.  Have a great day!!!

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« Reply #23 on: September 09, 2021, 12:17:10 PM »
"We have a Roku streaming device that we received several years ago as a gift but I've never bothered to figure out how it works so it's useless."

I got a Roku (Streaming Stick) a number of years back. Yes, a bit fiddly to set up but well worth the "on sale" $30 I paid for it. In the activation process they want a credit card in case you elect to use the "paid" channels. There are work-arounds available on line to prompt you through avoiding this. If you have no issues providing your card number and elect to pay for certain channels this is not a problem. You program in the channels you want individually rather than getting a "package."

That said there are roughly 1,000 channels on the Roku with thousands of movies and TV shows and a lot are FREE. Many are cloned duplicates of others but at a minimum I'd recommend Tubi and Pluto. They have a large selection and seemingly fewer commercials. You can also watch You Tube on the Roku too. As is the case "free" means commercials because they need to make money one way or the other. But, if you watch regular broadcast TV you are use to that.

The TV package of my $173 Internet/Cable bill is about $110. And sadly with the exception of about three channels we could do without the TV package all together. I watch a lot of METV and a fair number of the scheduled shows they broadcast (Andy Griffith for example) are available for free on Pluto TV or as stand-alone Andy Griffith channels through the Roku.

Lastly the Roku allows you to "cast" the screen of your laptop/desktop via Wi-Fi to your big screen TV. So, if you have that "nothing to watch time," you might consider filling in that time by getting the Roku up and running. Nothing to lose and something to gain.

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« Reply #24 on: September 09, 2021, 01:05:59 PM »
Well, well, well. I have learned a lot just from your posts, and it had nothing to do with Pintos!  LOL...I will definitely look into the Roku.  Currently, I have Chromecast...a ren't they the same thing?

On another note, I am glad you enjoyed my father's VCR programming story!  :-)

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