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Bobcat stats
« on: August 24, 2012, 11:32:30 PM »
This site posts the pinto production information but does not include numbers for Bobcat. Here they are for anyone who is interested.

1975
2 door hatch   factory price      $3189     total production   20,651
wagon                                    $3481                               13,583

1976
MPG runabout                         $3338                               28,905
MPG villager                            $3643                               18,731

1977
runabout                                $3438/3739                       18,405
villager                                  $3771/4072                       13,047

1978
runabout                                $3537/3810                       23,428
villager                                  $3878/4151                        8,840

1979
runabout                                $3797/4070                        35,667
villager                                   $4212/4485                        9,119

1980
runabout                                 $4384                                 28,103
villager                                    $4690                                 5,547

Information was provided from "The standard catalog of For1903-1998"

I would love to see these numbers added to the site.
Thanks
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Re: Bobcat stats
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2012, 07:53:08 AM »
sorry I did not proofread my post
the 1980 runabout production total was 28,103
the book is  "the standard catalog of ford  1903-1998"
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Re: Bobcat stats
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2012, 09:37:13 AM »
does it say how mny runabouts where built in 1975? and would be great to know how many v6 cars where bulit in 75, my guess not as many as the 2.3!
thanks for the info!!
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Re: Bobcat stats
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2012, 05:21:34 PM »
i know some of you will refute this..... but i dont understand why it doesnt show any sedans.....the re is a 75 bobcat trunk model with black leather about 2 miles from my house....and no its not a converted pinto......
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Re: Bobcat stats
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2012, 06:21:55 PM »
i know some of you will refute this..... but i dont understand why it doesnt show any sedans.....the re is a 75 bobcat trunk model with black leather about 2 miles from my house....and no its not a converted pinto......
Everything Ive ever seen says they never made a trunk bobcat. SO that one must be rare plus thats the ONLY one I have ever even heard about.
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Re: Bobcat stats
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2012, 06:53:42 PM »
i know some of you will refute this..... but i dont understand why it doesnt show any sedans.....the re is a 75 bobcat trunk model with black leather about 2 miles from my house....and no its not a converted pinto......
Do you have any pics of this Bobcat sedan? I know you said it's not a converted pinto but can you elaborate on how you know that for certain? I agree that it seems wierd there is nothing indicating there was a Bobcat sedan, especially when everything out there shows there wasn't.
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Re: Bobcat stats
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2012, 07:07:51 PM »
I listed this the same way the book did. So 75 is listed in the book as 2 door hatch. 76 is MPG and no other year. 4 and v6 is a combined figure and not broken out separately. I did not realize how few were made compared to pinto. I would love to know why 79 was such a larger sales year.
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Re: Bobcat stats
« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2012, 08:50:09 PM »
Guys,
The Pinto and Bobcat were built in 3 plants.  New Jersey, California, and Ontario.  The Ontario plant was in St-Thomas, near London.  It closed a few months ago after a long run making Crown Victorias, Police Interceptors, Grand Marquis and Town Cars.
I believe the stats you are quoting from the Ford history book do not include the Canadian numbers.  If they did, they would show numbers for 1974, as the Bobcat was introduced in Canada in 1974, not 1975.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ifhp97/4439402487/
Could it be that Bobcat sedans were built at the St-Thomas plant?
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Re: Bobcat stats
« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2012, 08:32:22 AM »
Thanks for the Canadian Info. I did not know about that.
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Re: Bobcat stats
« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2012, 08:36:30 AM »
This was easy to find once I knew to look for it.
http://publish.uwo.ca/~mtrowsd/the_vehicles/merc_bobcat.html
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Re: Bobcat stats
« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2012, 08:45:35 AM »
Here is the information you needed to know from the same website as above.
The Bobcat first appeared as a 1974 model--one year before our American cousins could buy it. In its initial form, the Pinto body had a broad bright grille with small squares. Rectangular parking lights were located in each end of the grille. Above the grille was the Mercury name spelled in block letters.
The name also appeared across the back. Tail-lights were something like Pinto's but double length.   
Bobcat's motors were the same as Pinto's. A 122-cid 80 hp four was standard, and 136 cid option provided 88 hp.   
Also like Pinto, the Bobcat came in three body styles: 2-door sedan, 3-door hatchback, and 2-door station wagon. A Villager option for the wagon added simulated woodgraining on the sides and back.
The Bobcat's price range was $2874 to $3157, which was about $200 more than Pinto.   
Practically 10,000 Mercury Bobcats were sold in calendar 1974. That was about half the number of Pintos sold, which was quite good considering the Pinto was already well known and firmly established in the marketplace.
Despite its popularity, Ford of Canada handed Bobcat production over to its American parent. Their first Bobcat--the 1975 model--had a different frontal appearance, which bore some resemblance to other Mercury models. It was imported by Ford of Canada, under terms of the Canada-U.S. Auto Pact.
However, Canadians were not so fond of the American Bobcat. Sales tumbled 30% in 1975.   
Despite the one-year life of the 1974 Canadian Bobcat, it did not die immediately. The 1976 Pinto copied its front end styling.
Some Grand Marquis were made in Mexico from 1991 to 1995. Otherwise, Ford of Canada has produced all Mercury Grand Marquis in its St. Thomas Assembly Plant since 1984.
Generally, Fords built in Canada mirrored their American counterparts. At times, a body type may have been omitted from Canadian production, but still offered in limited numbers as an import.
However, there was one was one leading deviation by postwar Canadian Fords from the U.S. pattern. That concerned all the 1954 Fords. It was for that year that Ford United States discarded the old flat-head V-8 to introduce the new more powerful ohv V-8.
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Re: Bobcat stats
« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2012, 09:18:41 AM »
Pinturbo75,
Given the above, is there a chance that the '75 sedan near your house is actually a '74 Canadian-built car?
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Re: Bobcat stats
« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2012, 11:15:57 AM »
This was easy to find once I knew to look for it.
http://publish.uwo.ca/~mtrowsd/the_vehicles/merc_bobcat.html

Well I'll be darned. Sounds like that Bobcat sedan he mentioned could very well be a 74 Canadian Bobcat
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« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2012, 03:46:46 PM »
ill try to get over there this weekend and get some more pics and info on it.... the only pics i have now are of the front and side, not the back....
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Re: Bobcat stats
« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2012, 04:55:20 PM »
Pinturbo75,
Given the above, is there a chance that the '75 sedan near your house is actually a '74 Canadian-built car?

it may have been an early production 75 branded as 74 i guess... its a big bumper car.
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Re: Bobcat stats
« Reply #15 on: August 29, 2012, 06:06:28 PM »
it may have been an early production 75 branded as 74 i guess... its a big bumper car.
Does it have a bobcat frontend cause that canadian one just looks like a rebadged pinto.
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Re: Bobcat stats
« Reply #16 on: August 29, 2012, 08:57:58 PM »
yes, all of the common bobcat body panels and trim of the early style, not pinto frontend...
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Re: Bobcat stats
« Reply #17 on: August 29, 2012, 09:07:52 PM »
yes, all of the common bobcat body panels and trim of the early style, not pinto frontend...
Cool Id love to see pics of that. Maybe you could Decode the vin and see where it was made.
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Re: Bobcat stats
« Reply #18 on: August 30, 2012, 11:49:01 AM »
Yes! Pics would be nice  ;D
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Re: Bobcat stats
« Reply #20 on: September 04, 2012, 06:27:08 PM »
it may have been an early production 75 branded as 74 i guess... its a big bumper car.
Pintoturbo75,
All '74s were big bumpers, whether Pintos or Canadian Bobcats.  So if indeed the Ford stats book is correct and there were no (US-built) Bobcat sedans, this would be a Canadian '74 Bobcat sedan.  Unless the St-Thomas article is wrong in stating that Bobcat production ceased in Canada after the '74 model year.  If it continued, this could be a '75 Canadian-built Bobcat sedan.  See if you can get a picture of the VIN.  We should be able to figure it out for sure with that. 
Also, see if you can peak at the fuel gauge.  I am about 70% certain that "Unleaded Fuel Only" started with model year 1975 - at least in Canada.
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Re: Bobcat stats
« Reply #21 on: September 04, 2012, 06:55:33 PM »
uhhhhhhh, sadly i was soooooooooo wrong on this car....... its not a trunk, i guess i confused it with the one next to it.... a 75 trunk pinto..... sorry guys,,,,,
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