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Title: which cap for this valve cover?
Post by: poomwah on April 28, 2014, 09:46:41 PM
I just ebayed this valve cover
(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/poomwah/_57_zpsd047784e.jpg) (http://s604.photobucket.com/user/poomwah/media/_57_zpsd047784e.jpg.html)
I've got wrinkle paint waiting and ordered a rubber gasket.  I want to make sure I have the right oil cap waiting when it gets here.
 Anybody know which one I need?
Title: Re: which cap for this valve cover?
Post by: cromcru on April 28, 2014, 11:25:14 PM
any oil cap from 85 to 93 ford mustang 2.3 .ford ranger from about 86 to 2001 2.3 and other fords of the same time period.if you are not sure take your valve cover to your local pick and pull yard and test one. as for the back hole you will need the oil seperator  from a turbo coupe or svo mustang.or 79 thru 86 ford with a 2.3. hope this helps.
Title: Re: which cap for this valve cover?
Post by: poomwah on April 28, 2014, 11:55:57 PM
thanks cromcu, that helps a lot.

Title: Re: which cap for this valve cover?
Post by: 65ShelbyClone on April 29, 2014, 12:33:19 AM
That valve cover is from an '87-88 Thunderbird Turbo Coupe, FYI.
Title: Re: which cap for this valve cover?
Post by: poomwah on April 29, 2014, 12:47:20 AM
thanks shelbyclone
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Post by: Pinto5.0 on April 29, 2014, 07:48:14 AM
Is that separator at the rear supposed to be connected to vacuum or vented to atmosphere?
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Post by: 74 PintoWagon on April 29, 2014, 07:51:55 AM
Doesen't the back one go to the air cleaner, mine does????
Title: Re: which cap for this valve cover?
Post by: Pinto5.0 on April 29, 2014, 08:26:02 AM
Doesen't the back one go to the air cleaner, mine does? ???

If it goes to the filter it's atmosphere. My 76 doesn't have a rear vent but the oil cap vents to the air cleaner I think.
Title: Re: which cap for this valve cover?
Post by: 74 PintoWagon on April 29, 2014, 09:51:48 AM
Different years I guess, mine has the oil cap in the rear and goes to the air cleaner and no breather in front, it does have a PCV that goes to the block. That one has a small hole that could be the PCV???
Title: Re: which cap for this valve cover?
Post by: 65ShelbyClone on April 29, 2014, 10:19:12 AM
The rear port on the TC valve cover is indeed for the PCV. It was originally routed to the compressor inlet elbow on the turbo, but the the air filter housing or a catch can on NA engines should be fine. The 2.3T engines had a big can-shaped oil separator/PCV valve, though. Not sure if that's needed or if there are baffles under the PCV port to keep oil spray down. It's been a long time since I've been under the valve cover of a 2.3T.
Title: Re: which cap for this valve cover?
Post by: 74 PintoWagon on April 29, 2014, 10:46:19 AM
Mine has a small can coming off the block just above the oil pan then a curved hose, the the PCV valve and a hose going to the EGR adapter..
Title: Re: which cap for this valve cover?
Post by: 65ShelbyClone on April 29, 2014, 10:50:33 AM
Then it ought to be safe to plug the one in the valve cover.
Title: Re: which cap for this valve cover?
Post by: 74 PintoWagon on April 29, 2014, 10:56:38 AM
No because when vacuum drops the PCV valve closes then air is drawn from the top, it's an enclosed system.
Title: Re: which cap for this valve cover?
Post by: Pinto5.0 on April 29, 2014, 11:21:47 AM
Different years I guess, mine has the oil cap in the rear and goes to the air cleaner and no breather in front, it does have a PCV that goes to the block. That one has a small hole that could be the PCV???

You're right, my 76 cap is at the rear. I was thinking of the 87 engine I have with the cap at the front. I think it's got a vent at the rear though so I'm gonna have to see how Ford routed it. I'm planning to run the 87 engine in my 76 with the same aluminum valve cover as this post is about so I've been trying to figure this out myself before I drop it in the car.
Title: Re: which cap for this valve cover?
Post by: 74 PintoWagon on April 29, 2014, 11:24:49 AM
I plan on putting an aluminum cover on mine too so I'll probably end up re routing stuff around also,lol..
Title: Re: which cap for this valve cover?
Post by: Pinto5.0 on April 29, 2014, 11:53:40 AM
I've got several early aluminum turbo valve covers & that back hole was run wide open. I've seen guys do all kinds of things to put a hose on it but when it was stock it sucked in crap from the engine compartment
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Post by: Pinturbo75 on April 29, 2014, 12:18:04 PM
as Shelby said, the rear breather had a vacuum line that went to the inlet of the turbo... I run a regular push in breather on both of mine....
Title: Re: which cap for this valve cover?
Post by: 74 PintoWagon on April 29, 2014, 12:29:34 PM
as Shelby said, the rear breather had a vacuum line that went to the inlet of the turbo... I run a regular push in breather on both of mine....
Any problems keeping the cover clean around the breathers?.
Title: Re: which cap for this valve cover?
Post by: 74 PintoWagon on April 29, 2014, 12:31:53 PM
I've got several early aluminum turbo valve covers.
Wanna part with one. :D
Title: Re: which cap for this valve cover?
Post by: Pinto5.0 on April 29, 2014, 01:30:27 PM
Wanna part with one. :D

Once I get everything together & running I'll be selling off any extra parts. The only problem I have right now is not knowing what all I need.
Title: Re: which cap for this valve cover?
Post by: 74 PintoWagon on April 29, 2014, 01:31:28 PM

Once I get everything together & running I'll be selling off any extra parts. The only problem I have right now is not knowing what all I need.
That's cool, keep me in mind.
Title: Re: which cap for this valve cover?
Post by: poomwah on April 29, 2014, 04:48:49 PM
I figure I'd just emulate what's there now. Keep the PCV on the side of the block, and run a breather off the back of the valve cover, either to the air cleaner, depending on which air cleaner I use, or a separate filter.
Title: Re: which cap for this valve cover?
Post by: 74 PintoWagon on April 29, 2014, 05:57:34 PM
That'll work..
Title: Re: which cap for this valve cover?
Post by: poomwah on April 29, 2014, 06:06:47 PM
as Shelby said, the rear breather had a vacuum line that went to the inlet of the turbo... I run a regular push in breather on both of mine....

what kind of breather do you use? do you have a link or a part number? I don't know what size the hole in the grommet is.
Title: Re: which cap for this valve cover?
Post by: Pinto5.0 on April 29, 2014, 06:28:29 PM
This part number should be available anywhere. Hit the parts store & measure it.
 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/161261200600?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/161261200600?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649)
Title: Re: which cap for this valve cover?
Post by: poomwah on April 29, 2014, 06:32:32 PM
I dont' have that valve cover to measure the hole
Title: Re: which cap for this valve cover?
Post by: poomwah on May 01, 2014, 04:42:55 PM
got the valve cover today.
 (http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/poomwah/20140501_153930_zpsijzawtdk.jpg) (http://s604.photobucket.com/user/poomwah/media/20140501_153930_zpsijzawtdk.jpg.html)
still haven't got my gasket or cap though :\
(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/poomwah/20140501_172712_zpsa3ncut2b.jpg) (http://s604.photobucket.com/user/poomwah/media/20140501_172712_zpsa3ncut2b.jpg.html)
Title: Re: which cap for this valve cover?
Post by: 74 PintoWagon on May 01, 2014, 05:52:34 PM
I like that cover..
Title: Re: which cap for this valve cover?
Post by: poomwah on May 01, 2014, 07:06:19 PM
me too :]
 now if my gasket ever gets here :P

I wonder if I'm going to need longer bolts
Title: Re: which cap for this valve cover?
Post by: 74 PintoWagon on May 02, 2014, 07:46:49 AM
Stand offs look about a 1/2" tall, I'd say you'll need new bolts.. :D
Title: Re: which cap for this valve cover?
Post by: dick1172762 on May 02, 2014, 07:54:04 AM
Metric bolts too.
Title: Re: which cap for this valve cover?
Post by: poomwah on May 02, 2014, 01:28:50 PM
6mm by the look of it
Title: Re: which cap for this valve cover?
Post by: poomwah on May 02, 2014, 06:56:38 PM
got the breather elbow today, but the cap that they had at autozone won't thread in.
Title: Re: which cap for this valve cover?
Post by: D.R.Ball on May 03, 2014, 10:27:23 AM
The breather is a push on not a thread on, the oil filler cap is a screw on...
Title: Re: which cap for this valve cover?
Post by: poomwah on May 03, 2014, 11:19:24 PM
right, the breather fit perfectly. The cap they had listed had the wrong thread.
 I took the valve cover into a different store and matched it up.