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Valve spring Compressor tool ford pinto 2.0
« on: September 24, 2018, 07:49:12 PM »
Does anybody know where I can get this tool on this guy youtube at 52 sec
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Or this might work on the 2.0
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Re: Valve spring Compressor tool ford pinto 2.0
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2018, 02:00:57 AM »
No idea on the first tool. The second tool you can get at most any automotive parts store, off the tool trucks, or off EBay. The second tool is the only one that I have ever used and they work fine.

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Re: Valve spring Compressor tool ford pinto 2.0
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2018, 11:00:46 AM »
I've used the lever type tool in the first video. As the guy states it is for over head cam engines. But it works equally as well on over head valve engines with a rocker shaft. And for that matter I have used a short piece of pipe on pedestal rocker stands and it worked for that too. The disadvantage of this type it that you are pressing the valve against the piston if you are removing the springs with the head installed.

The type in the second video I have had issues with. It can be a struggle to get the legs under the spring because the spring pad is cut into the casting. Also on over head cam engines the cam tower can get in the way. The advantage of this type is you are simply compressing the spring only.

If you are planning on replacing the seals with the head installed you need to keep the valve from dropping into the cylinder. Personally I have always been leery of the air compressor method. I've used the method where the piston is brought to top dead center and then a thin rope is filled through the spark plug hole.  Even here if the lever type spring compressor is used be careful because the valve/rope will push on the piston and the crank can rotate. I have a breaker bar on the crank bolt to counter that action.  On manual trans cars you MIGHT get away with leaving the car in gear.

  Make sure you get the rockers back onto the same location they came from. They wear together with the cam and become a matched set. Line up the springs and see that they are all a relative height.  There are tools to test the springs but most don't have access to one. At least comparing the springs will show a really bad one. I've put Liquid Wrench down the valve stems in the hope that it frees up any valves that might have a degree of binding. Usually the seals come with a little plastic cap that goes over the valve. Its purpose is to prevent the edge of the seal from being damaged over the retainer grooves. So, if it is provided, use it.


Where can you buy the lever type comprssor? Seach Ebay for "lever type spring compressor." A number of them came up in the first few returns.  You might try some of the auto parts stores too. Many will loan the tool free if you buy the parts from them.

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Re: Valve spring Compressor tool ford pinto 2.0
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2018, 04:27:11 PM »
I did the #2  exhaust valve seal so far before I put this topic, I seen that the seal was floating up and down on that Valve. I first got the piston up to the top, then backed it down like 1/4" I took a drinking straw and fed like 8' of rope through it to hold the valve up,. worked great. Got the spring off messing with it in different ways, Put on the seal, Then took some mountain bike handle bars with a deep socket inside the bar tubing to help put the holder dilly's back in with the help of my son and I pushing down on the handle bar. = STRESS, :P - But after that, I put it all back together and post the drama here. LOL. The tool I see at auto zone for $20 looks like it might work for doing the rest. I hope

https://www.autozone.com/test-scan-and-specialty-tools/valve-spring-compressor-and-measure/oem-valve-spring-compressor-with-knob/231210_0_0
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Re: Valve spring Compressor tool ford pinto 2.0
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2018, 03:51:56 PM »
That type may very well work. The issue as I stated is the legs/feet of it need to get under the spring at the bottom. And often the base of the spring sits in a machined indent in the head. That indent makes it hard to get the feet of the compressor under the spring.


Glad you found a way to do it. In spite of having a number of different compressors when I have the head off the block I often use a large C-Clamp. I put a socket under the valve head, and have piece of steel tubing I slice out about 1/2" lengthwise. I clamp between the two and then remove the valve keeper out the opening with a magnetic screwdriver. The past few years I probably have acquired the proper tool that does the same. But it has been a while since I've removed valves and can't quite remember all I have tool wise at this point. I guess that is a good problem to have.

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Re: Valve spring Compressor tool ford pinto 2.0
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2018, 10:52:47 PM »
I rented a tool from auto part store, got them all done today. Now my back hurts, LOL :P I noticed the old ones on the exhaust side were larger looking. But the new Fram set I bought are all the same size and look.
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Re: Valve spring Compressor tool ford pinto 2.0
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2018, 09:46:12 AM »
Glad you got them done. I never replaced my 2.0 seals so I don't know if they are different. Typically they are the same.  Do remember that if there is any leakage past the valve stem it is very hot exhaust pushing up on to the bottom of the seal. On the intake side it is comparatively cooler (if one can call 200 degrees cool) air being drawn down the valve stem. So the heat may affect the seal differently over time.

The exhaust seals generally do little except when the engine is not running. Then they prevent excess oil from dripping down the stem. While the same applies to the intake those seals also are effective any time the valve opens and there is a vacuum attempting to pull oil down the stem.

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 Turns out his car was stored here (and also needed the timing belt changed). But, we had already purchased the parts. So, his car got the new belt - and I got a sore back. And..., grandma's old car is sitting in my yard awaiting to get its timing belt changed too. So, once my back gets better I can look forward to it not staying that way.