Current Classifieds

LOTS OF 1971-1973 PARTS FOR SALE
Date: 02/03/2018 11:28 am
Many Parts Listed Below
Date: 04/20/2018 11:15 am
1972-1980 Pinto/Bobcat Wagon Drivers Side Tail Light OEM

Date: 04/20/2017 10:10 am
Chilton's Repair & Tune-up Guide 1971-1979 Pinto and Bobcat

Date: 03/06/2017 01:24 am
Looking for leaf spring insulators
Date: 04/04/2020 09:38 am
Wanted 71-73 Pinto grill
Date: 03/09/2019 10:45 pm
Pinto 4-spd transmissions
Date: 06/15/2018 09:15 am
Need Mustang II Manual Transmission Mount
Date: 04/21/2017 02:03 pm
71-73 Hood
Date: 12/07/2018 06:22 pm
'80 Pinto Wagon
Date: 02/01/2018 05:20 pm
1980 Ford Pinto Squire Wagon * All original 1 Owner *

Date: 09/15/2019 12:28 pm
Rear brake shoes

Date: 01/23/2017 05:01 pm

« previous next »
Pages: [1]   Go Down

Author Topic: V8 T-5 trans vs. 4cyl T-5 input shaft question  (Read 2463 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline 71pintoracer

  • Pinto Master
  • *****
  • Posts: 1336
  • FeedBack: +37/-0
  • Gender: Male
  • '71 Pinto 5.0 T-5 = lotsa fun!

    • Total Badges: 8
    Badges: (View All)
    Mobile User Tenth year Anniversary Topic Starter Signature Poll Voter 1000 Posts Fifth year Anniversary Photographer
V8 T-5 trans vs. 4cyl T-5 input shaft question
« on: August 29, 2012, 03:38:06 PM »
I'm pretty sure I have read about this somewhere, the 4cyl shaft being shorter than the v8 keeping the shaft from going into the pilot bearing. When I built my car I didn't know the trans was from a 4 cyl car. It's been doing fine for years, but recently it started getting a vibration around 2500-3500. Our drivetrain tech said he thought it was the pilot bearing. Sounded logical since the trans had the shorter shaft. Pulled the trans and the pilot (roller type) looks perfect and there is no wear on the shaft. When I looked up a v8 shaft on e-bay, it stated that it has 23 teeth and is 9.3 inches long. The shaft I have has 19 teeth and is 9.75 inches. Now what? I was thinking that the shafts were interchangeabl e but.....?? Anyone have a v8 shaft they can get some measurments from?  :P 
Logged
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?

Offline Pinturbo75

  • Pinto Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 722
  • FeedBack: +26/-0
  • Gender: Male

    • Total Badges: 6
    Badges: (View All)
    Topic Starter Signature Tenth year Anniversary Poll Voter Windows User Fifth year Anniversary
Re: V8 T-5 trans vs. 4cyl T-5 input shaft question
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2012, 03:42:06 PM »
the v8 and 4banger input shafts are not interchangable .... the main difference is the tooth count which you found already..... the diameter of the input is the other difference... it can be machined down to the proper size for a 4 banger though for cheap......
Logged
75 turbo pinto trunk, megasquirt2, 133lb injectors, bv head, precision 6265 turbo, 3" exhaust,bobs log, 8.8, t5,, subframe connectors, 65 mm tb, frontmount ic, traction bars, 255 lph walbro,
73 turbo pinto panel wagon, ms1, 85 lb inj, fmic, holset hy35, 3" exhaust, msd, bov,

Offline 71pintoracer

  • Pinto Master
  • *****
  • Posts: 1336
  • FeedBack: +37/-0
  • Gender: Male
  • '71 Pinto 5.0 T-5 = lotsa fun!

    • Total Badges: 8
    Badges: (View All)
    Mobile User Tenth year Anniversary Topic Starter Signature Poll Voter 1000 Posts Fifth year Anniversary Photographer
Re: V8 T-5 trans vs. 4cyl T-5 input shaft question
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2012, 09:49:38 PM »
Yea mine is a 4 banger trans behind a 5.0. Might not even be the problem. I think I will pull the clutch and bolt the bell up and take some measurments.
Logged
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?

Offline oldkayaker

  • Pinto Master
  • *****
  • Posts: 758
  • FeedBack: +114/-0
  • Gender: Male

    • Total Badges: 5
    Badges: (View All)
    Topic Starter Signature Windows User Tenth year Anniversary Fifth year Anniversary
Re: V8 T-5 trans vs. 4cyl T-5 input shaft question
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2012, 02:15:10 AM »
This link gives input shaft dimensions for the Ford T-5's.
http://www.therangerstation.com/tech_library/T5ID.htm
Logged
Jerry J - Jupiter, Florida

Offline 71pintoracer

  • Pinto Master
  • *****
  • Posts: 1336
  • FeedBack: +37/-0
  • Gender: Male
  • '71 Pinto 5.0 T-5 = lotsa fun!

    • Total Badges: 8
    Badges: (View All)
    Mobile User Tenth year Anniversary Topic Starter Signature Poll Voter 1000 Posts Fifth year Anniversary Photographer
Re: V8 T-5 trans vs. 4cyl T-5 input shaft question
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2012, 07:38:18 AM »
Thanks old thats what I needed. Looks like the pilot end of the shaft is .008" too small for the v8. Hmmmm........n ow would be a good time to put a turbo 2.3 in this car and put the 5.0 with a v8 trans in the Cruisin Wagon........ 8)
Logged
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?

Mike Modified

  • Guest
Re: V8 T-5 trans vs. 4cyl T-5 input shaft question
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2012, 12:27:26 PM »
I believe that the (somewhat inelegant) solution to using a 4-cylinder T-5 behind a 5.0 is to use the Ranger 2.3 DIESEL pilot bushing/bearing (but don't quote me on that!).
 
Mike
Logged

Offline 71pintoracer

  • Pinto Master
  • *****
  • Posts: 1336
  • FeedBack: +37/-0
  • Gender: Male
  • '71 Pinto 5.0 T-5 = lotsa fun!

    • Total Badges: 8
    Badges: (View All)
    Mobile User Tenth year Anniversary Topic Starter Signature Poll Voter 1000 Posts Fifth year Anniversary Photographer
Re: V8 T-5 trans vs. 4cyl T-5 input shaft question
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2012, 07:15:05 AM »
haha well it's a mis-matched pile of parts all thrown together so I may as well add some diesel parts to it! Thanks Mike, I'll look into that.  :)
Logged
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?

Offline 71pintoracer

  • Pinto Master
  • *****
  • Posts: 1336
  • FeedBack: +37/-0
  • Gender: Male
  • '71 Pinto 5.0 T-5 = lotsa fun!

    • Total Badges: 8
    Badges: (View All)
    Mobile User Tenth year Anniversary Topic Starter Signature Poll Voter 1000 Posts Fifth year Anniversary Photographer
Re: V8 T-5 trans vs. 4cyl T-5 input shaft question
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2012, 01:35:51 PM »
The diesel ranger pilot looks to be a perfect match. And....the local Advance Auto has one in stock!! Thanks for the info everyone :)
Logged
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?

Offline Fehrion_sit

  • Pinto Member
  • **
  • Posts: 49
  • FeedBack: +0/-0
  • Gender: Male
  • Another Pinto Driver

    • Total Badges: 2
    Badges: (View All)
    Topic Starter Fifth year Anniversary
Re: V8 T-5 trans vs. 4cyl T-5 input shaft question
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2012, 06:53:12 PM »
asking a similar question, i want to buy a t5 from a 1995 5liter, the trans has the bellhousing on it. does anyone know if it will be cable or hydraulic clutch folk and if it will bolt up to my 67 289???

thanks for the help!
Logged

Offline OhSix9

  • Pinto Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 248
  • FeedBack: +7/-1
  • Gender: Male
  • Positrac Intercooler Nitrous Turbo Overdrive

    • Total Badges: 5
    Badges: (View All)
    Topic Starter Signature Poll Voter Windows User Fifth year Anniversary
Re: V8 T-5 trans vs. 4cyl T-5 input shaft question
« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2012, 09:00:27 PM »
Fehrion,
yes it will bolt up. patterwise. watch the sn95 parts though. 94/95 they are kinda a redheaded stepchild as it is the new bodystyle before the went mod motor so it has some peculiarities. i believe it has a unique bell length to push the trans back so you might need a specific driveshaft and it may change shifter placement. should be a hydraulic clutch too.

OhSix'
Logged
Modest beginnings start with the single blow of a horn man..    Now when you get through with this thing every dickhead in the world is gonna wanna own it.   Do you know anything at all about the internal combustion engine?

Virgil to Sid

Offline Pinto5.0

  • Pinto Master
  • *****
  • Posts: 1974
  • FeedBack: +77/-0
  • Gender: Male
  • 80 hatch, 76 Wagon, 72 & 73 Sedans, 71 half hatch

    • Total Badges: 7
    Badges: (View All)
    Topic Starter Signature Poll Voter Mobile User Fifth year Anniversary Windows User 1000 Posts
Re: V8 T-5 trans vs. 4cyl T-5 input shaft question
« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2012, 11:23:30 PM »
Quote from: 71pintoracer on September 04, 2012, 01:35:51 PM
The diesel ranger pilot looks to be a perfect match. And....the local Advance Auto has one in stock!! Thanks for the info everyone :)

What's the part number? I'm debating running the 5.0 trans I have with a 2.76 rear gear in Callisto.
Logged
'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

Offline Jerry merrill

  • Pinto Member
  • **
  • Posts: 60
  • FeedBack: +1/-0
  • Gender: Male
  • Another Pinto Driver

    • Total Badges: 4
    Badges: (View All)
    Fifth year Anniversary Topic Starter Poll Voter Windows User
Re: V8 T-5 trans vs. 4cyl T-5 input shaft question
« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2012, 01:01:41 AM »
I have a 95 t5 in my 65 mustang. The input shaft had to be changed to the shorter 93 and older, bell wont work, you will also need an older one.
Logged
Pages: [1]   Go Up
« previous next »