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Transmission issues
« on: September 06, 2012, 07:49:27 PM »
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My 77 Pinto is my daily driver & on the way home from work I noticed the transmission acting up a bit at the 2-3 shift. This morning all was well with the car but when I was going home I noticed the RPMs jump a bit at the 2-3 shift point. I drove the car for a bit & checked the transmission fluid & noticed it is ok. No metal or signs of clutch dust in it that I could notice.  It only seems to act up at the shift point & is fine before & after shifting.
 
The car has a 2.3 4 cylinder with a c-3 transmission. It is not the original transmission, as the original went out back in 2007.
 
Is it possible there is just an adjustment that needs to be made?
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Re: Transmission issues
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2012, 09:13:11 PM »
I would do a forward band adjustment about a half turn in and see if it improves. If not, try another half turn in. If that doesn't do it I would suspect clutches going out.
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Re: Transmission issues
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2012, 10:10:18 PM »
Hmmmmm.... Sounds like I'll be trying that out some this weekend. Fingers crossed!
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Re: Transmission issues
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2012, 08:23:39 AM »
It just got worse. This morning I noticed it was a little sluggish shifting into 2nd & won't shift into 3rd. I think it just failed on me.
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Re: Transmission issues
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2012, 07:11:36 PM »
When I got home from work I went ahead & checked the fluid to see if there was any signs of metal or clutch dust. The fluid is a little dirty but isn't looking too bad. It's still got a reddish color to it & when up to temp the fluid level is good.
 
I went ahead & put the shifter through the gears & noticed a couple different issues. It seems like it is making a little more noise than it should when shifting. When I shift through the gears there is a loud noise metallic noise when shifting from park to drive & when shifting to reverse as well.
 
Any ideas??
 
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Re: Transmission issues
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2012, 11:26:00 PM »
Sounds like end play has gone out. Possibly a warped sun gear, or a bad thrust washer. Sounds like its time for a tear down and rebuild. If you were closer I would give you the spare c4 I have. It just needs a bell and torque converter. Just rebuilt it a few months ago.
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Re: Transmission issues
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2012, 07:05:59 AM »
Sounds like end play has gone out. Possibly a warped sun gear, or a bad thrust washer. Sounds like its time for a tear down and rebuild. If you were closer I would give you the spare c4 I have. It just needs a bell and torque converter. Just rebuilt it a few months ago.

I was afraid it was something serious like needing a total rebuild. Looks like I might be going to Circleville Ohio to pick up another C3 for $75 & rebuild this one.
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Re: Transmission issues
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2012, 11:18:25 PM »
Looks like it is just shot. Only got first & it slips a little bit. Good thing I only paid $20 for it a few years back. Bad thing that I gotta do the job all over again. Oh well
 
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