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Timing HELP!!
« on: May 09, 2014, 06:47:05 PM »
I need help getting the timing right for the stock 2.3l 1976 engine


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Re: Timing HELP!!
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2014, 07:04:49 PM »
ive just went through a very difficult trial and error learning experience with this.  you are shooting for 34-36 total.  factory settings for initial are around 6-8 but more is ok.  i have finally gotten mine to 10 initial and 36 total.

What problems are you having?  do you have a dial back timing light or a standard?  have you checked timing yet? what do you have currently WITHOUT vacuum advance?

Not sure how savvy you are with the distributors but if you cannot get a decent curve they can be taken apart and the advance range changed by changing to different sized slots.  For my 1980 with duraspark distributor, 16L with a bushing on it turned out to be the magic number.  There are detailed instructions posted in other forums i can direct you to if need be.  You may not need to go this far though if you have a decent curve already.


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Re: Timing HELP!!
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2014, 07:19:41 PM »
Not sure exactly what kind of help you need, but here's a link to my post about recently replacing my timing belt in which I got a ton of help from our fine members- hope it may help!

http://www.fordpinto.com/general-help/78-bobcat-wagon-2-3l-timing-belt/

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Re: Timing HELP!!
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2014, 08:17:43 PM »
It's dying when we try to Lower it but I didn't take the vacuum advance off... Would that do it? 


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Re: Timing HELP!!
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2014, 09:11:10 PM »
Are you running ported vacuum or full manifold vacuum?, what is your timing set at now?, is the carb dialed in?, we need some info in order to diagnose anything..
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Re: Timing HELP!!
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2014, 09:23:13 PM »
sounds like you are trying to time by ear?  what number did you lower it to?  why are you changing it in the first place?

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Re: Timing HELP!!
« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2014, 11:42:37 PM »
It's dying when we try to Lower it but I didn't take the vacuum advance off... Would that do it? 


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Timing 'by ear' is a lost art. Go to Autozone. Buy a dial-back timing light. Once and done. :)

Also vacuum caps. You have to 'disconnect' the vacuum line to set the initial timing, so that requires plugging the feed.  A vacuum leak will mess up your idle, and throw off your timing.

Timing has to be done with the engine hot enough to burn you. Like a radiator hose burns you. Preferably the upper, but what do I know. :) rofl

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Re: Timing HELP!!
« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2014, 11:48:05 PM »
Ya I think my carb needs work... I can't get it to idle at all.. I'm doing it cuz I just rebuilt engine.


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Re: Timing HELP!!
« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2014, 11:53:18 PM »
Idk. I point my rotor at the mark on the dizzy, and the car starts. Adjust it a few degrees further, and now we're idling. Has to be hot, though.

At a loss for the later POS motors. :D

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Re: Timing HELP!!
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2014, 03:10:58 AM »
Idk. I point my rotor at the mark on the dizzy, and the car starts. Adjust it a few degrees further, and now we're idling. Has to be hot, though.

At a loss for the later POS motors. :D


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Re: Timing HELP!!
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2014, 08:10:20 AM »
Idk. I point my rotor at the mark on the dizzy, and the car starts. Adjust it a few degrees further, and now we're idling. Has to be hot, though.

At a loss for the later POS motors. :D

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