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Title: Steering knuckle - need to change
Post by: Reeves1 on January 04, 2013, 08:53:19 AM

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Need the U-joint type knuckle. Don't know what they are called ?
Place to get them ?
It's on my 72 & I need a bit more clearance for my clutch cable.

Someone have the righ part number as well ?
Maker ?

Thanks
Derrick

Duh !

http://www.jegs.com/p/JEGS-Performance-Products/JEGS-Nickel-Plated-Steering-U-Joints/1513380/10002/-1

Anyone know the right part number ?
I'll measure my shafts later today.

Title: Re: Steering knuckle - need to change
Post by: pintoman on January 04, 2013, 11:17:57 AM

It's called a rag joint.You can get replacements at your local auto parts store.

Title: Re: Steering knuckle - need to change
Post by: Fred Morgan on January 04, 2013, 12:12:26 PM

Here U go !   Fred   :)

Title: Re: Steering knuckle - need to change
Post by: Reeves1 on January 04, 2013, 12:24:08 PM

Knew "rag joint".

What I need is the steel type u-joint. They are smaller around & will give me more clearance for the clutch cable into the Quick Time bell housing.
Thanks though !

Title: Re: Steering knuckle - need to change
Post by: 289Wagon on January 04, 2013, 01:12:05 PM

 You will need the OD  and spline count on the rack end. It looks like you have a manual rack, so it should be 9/16 -26. The power rack is 3/4-36.
 The shaft should be a 3/4 inch double d. AKA - DD     On mine the 'flat' is .581 and the round is .746
 I have some charts for those type of joints, but I still can't figure how to post an image on here. Also, Moog has a detailed chart for coil springs. I'll try to PM you a link to that.

Title: Re: Steering knuckle - need to change
Post by: 289Wagon on January 04, 2013, 01:23:40 PM

 Shaft chart

Title: Re: Steering knuckle - need to change
Post by: 289Wagon on January 04, 2013, 01:42:51 PM

 Spline count

Title: Re: Steering knuckle - need to change
Post by: Reeves1 on January 04, 2013, 05:45:11 PM

Great info & will help !

Thanks !

Title: Re: Steering knuckle - need to change
Post by: D.R.Ball on January 04, 2013, 06:22:46 PM

After using the chart go to Flaming River and check what they have or try Speedway.....

Title: Re: Steering knuckle - need to change
Post by: Reeves1 on January 29, 2013, 08:55:42 PM

Up-date.
Sent pictures to the go to sped shop up here (Mopac in Edmonton) & they couldn't find one.
New pics below.
Rack shaft is 9/16" x 26 spline.
Steering shaft is 3/4" wide & single D.
Over the next days I'll try & find at the places mentioned.
In the mean time, if anyoe finds one please let me know. Limit on my time when away working.

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Title: Re: Steering knuckle - need to change
Post by: Reeves1 on January 30, 2013, 05:22:33 AM

Found this on Speedway & sent them an e-mail.

Item #:
10630307
Item Details:
Pinto/Mustang II Manual


http://www.speedwaymotors.com/AFCO-U-Joint-9-16-Inch-26-Spline,41052.html

Title: Re: Steering knuckle - need to change
Post by: Reeves1 on February 28, 2013, 06:01:59 AM

Still have not found one. Working away from home 24 on 4 off makes it hard to get stuff done !

Title: Re: Steering knuckle - need to change
Post by: sedandelivery on March 01, 2013, 06:27:41 AM

Just for the heck of it, call flaming river to see if they can help. They deal in Pinto/Mustang II steering normally for Hot Rods.

Title: Re: Steering knuckle - need to change
Post by: racer99 on March 01, 2013, 08:30:34 AM

We always use a 9/16 for the manual rack end,Reeve.

This one has the most clearance,
http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS-Performance-Products/555/60732/10002/-1

Title: Re: Steering knuckle - need to change
Post by: Reeves1 on March 02, 2013, 06:08:03 AM

Racer - the 3/4" end of that one is a double D. See my pictures above. I found lots of those up here. Did you mod the steering end to make them fit ?

Sedan - Thanks - I'll call them next time I am off work early.

Title: Re: Steering knuckle - need to change
Post by: Reeves1 on March 02, 2013, 08:00:30 PM

This looks like what I need. Ordering two & will up-date this topic when I test them.

http://www.flamingriver.com/index.php/products/c0005/s0003/FR2631

Title: Re: Steering knuckle - need to change
Post by: Reeves1 on March 08, 2013, 07:29:10 PM

Flaming River didn't work. To order you have to "join" that site & it will not let me. Tried at least 10 times to order & it will not work. They made it very hard to order parts.
Due to what I'm working & in a no cell service area, I cannot call them during the day.

Title: Re: Steering knuckle - need to change
Post by: OhSix9 on March 08, 2013, 09:15:14 PM

call mopac in edmonton. they should be able to gt what u need

Title: Re: Steering knuckle - need to change
Post by: Reeves1 on March 09, 2013, 05:09:53 AM

Called Mopac. They didn't have it.

Edit

Just tried the Flaming River site again. Worked this time.

Title: Re: Steering knuckle - need to change
Post by: Reeves1 on March 23, 2013, 03:15:55 PM

Got it. But I didn't take into account the length.

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The distance between the rack & steering rod is too close for it to fit. I do not think I have ever had a steering column out, so have no idea if it will collapse/push in enough for the U-joint to fit ?
Anyone done this ?

Title: Re: Steering knuckle - need to change
Post by: 72pair on March 23, 2013, 08:19:02 PM

Does your car still have the original column with flex shaft? I'm thinking you need to swap in a later column with a solid shaft, then you can add in u-joints starting near the firewall and route around whatever you need. 

Title: Re: Steering knuckle - need to change
Post by: Reeves1 on March 24, 2013, 06:57:05 AM

I still have the flex shaft.
Reason I wanted the U-Joint was for more clutch cable clearance, by/at the rag joint.
I have the Quick Time bell.

I came up with another idea for motor mounts. They will be a semi solid type, so more cable clearance may not be required now. I'll see after the new mounts are made.