Author Topic: Radiator Question! (Read 31226 times)

289Wagon · « **Reply #60 on:** July 03, 2013, 07:37:09 AM »

Going by the base number-14A554- Ford calls it - ACTUATOR (seat belt & ignition warning system) Before 1/75

Pinto5.0 · « **Reply #61 on:** July 03, 2013, 07:46:00 AM »

Quote from: Ricpinto on July 03, 2013, 07:37:09 AM

Going by the base number-14A554- Ford calls it - ACTUATOR (seat belt & ignition warning system) Before 1/75

That's a complex POS for an early Pinto. I wonder if it worked longer than 5 minutes....

74 PintoWagon · « **Reply #62 on:** July 03, 2013, 08:07:44 AM »

Don't think so there's nothing to make sound it's just a little circuit board??, and there's two small ones there one for the door and seat belts according to the manual..

74 PintoWagon · « **Reply #63 on:** July 09, 2013, 10:58:08 PM »

Quote from: Ricpinto on July 03, 2013, 07:37:09 AM

Going by the base number-14A554- Ford calls it - ACTUATOR (seat belt & ignition warning system) Before 1/75

Interesting, wonder what kind of warning you get for a point ignition??..

74 PintoWagon · « **Reply #64 on:** July 09, 2013, 10:59:41 PM »

Quote from: Pinto5.0 on July 03, 2013, 07:46:00 AM

That's a complex POS for an early Pinto. I wonder if it worked longer than 5 minutes....

That's funny, LOL...

nnn0wqk · « **Reply #65 on:** July 10, 2013, 01:02:22 AM »

I believe that is the box for the seat belt interlock system that was only used on 1974 year model cars. In 74 only you could not start the car unless the seat belt for the driver was fastened and passenger if there was one. This was for the front seats only. There was a switch (push button) under the hoad on left fender side that you could push for a one time start. There was a pressure switch under the seat cushions to tell the box that the seat was occupied and if I recall correctly as you pulled the belt out it closed a switch to tell the box that the belt was fastened. Most were wired around many years ago as the motoring public did not like big brother telling them that they had to fasten the seat belt before they could start the car.

74 PintoWagon · « **Reply #66 on:** July 10, 2013, 10:16:51 AM »

Quote from: nnn0wqk on July 10, 2013, 01:02:22 AM

I believe that is the box for the seat belt interlock system that was only used on 1974 year model cars. In 74 only you could not start the car unless the seat belt for the driver was fastened and passenger if there was one. This was for the front seats only. There was a switch (push button) under the hoad on left fender side that you could push for a one time start. There was a pressure switch under the seat cushions to tell the box that the seat was occupied and if I recall correctly as you pulled the belt out it closed a switch to tell the box that the belt was fastened. Most were wired around many years ago as the motoring public did not like big brother telling them that they had to fasten the seat belt before they could start the car.

Wow never knew that, so I take it this is the push button switch you're talking about??, was wondering about that one too since nothing happens when you push it, makes sense now though guess it's been deactivated because you can just reach in and start it don't have to sit in the seat.. Thanks for the info much appreciated..

Pinto5.0 · « **Reply #67 on:** July 10, 2013, 04:29:52 PM »

Chrysler tried that stupidity as well. Only problem was the system was garbage & 6 months after you bought your car it refused to start, belt or no belt.

74 PintoWagon · « **Reply #68 on:** July 10, 2013, 05:07:28 PM »

That had to zoop, glad mine's not hooked up or it would have to come off real quick..

74 PintoWagon · « **Reply #69 on:** July 10, 2013, 10:17:42 PM »

Well, got the heater box out and all apart today, just have to clean it out and take out about 5lbs of crud,LOL, got to get a core and make a couple of gaskets and put er back together..

dga57 · « **Reply #70 on:** July 11, 2013, 01:20:40 AM »

My orange '74 Runabout was all of three months old the first (and only) time there was a malfunction of the seatbelt/starter interlock. I consulted the owners manual, pushed the little red button under the hood, and all was well. My dad took it back to the dealership while I was at school a few days later for its first oil change and had them disconnect that nonsense while he was there. He did not tell me at the time, so thinking the system was still active, I continued to buckle up... a habit that has stuck with me from that time on! I discovered the "modification" about a year later when my girlfriend got in and started it without buckling the seatbelt! As nnn0wqk pointed out, it was a one-year-only thing; 1974.
Dwayne

74 PintoWagon · « **Reply #71 on:** July 11, 2013, 08:28:38 AM »

One year only kinda tells ya something, wonder how many got stranded because of that that system..

nnn0wqk · « **Reply #72 on:** July 11, 2013, 10:10:09 AM »

Well keep in mind this was a federal mandate system. All the car companies had it. I remember JC Whitney selling just a tongue to bypass the system I believe on GM cars it was suppose to be for people to use that parked lots of cars? I never did disconnect mine and it still functions. Guess that got me into the habit of wearing the belt.

74 PintoWagon · « **Reply #73 on:** July 12, 2013, 07:27:12 AM »

Federal huh don't remember that one??, interesting why it was only one year though wonder what happened?..

nnn0wqk · « **Reply #74 on:** July 12, 2013, 09:48:42 AM »

I was only 17-18 at the time so memory may be a little dim. I would guess there was so much out cry over the whole thing that they backed off. They to this day still have the warning system it is just now you can start the car even if you not buckled in. I suppose the failure rate could have been high enough that it became a saftey issue not being able to get the thing to start too? Who knows. Its like the unleaded fuel sticker you still find at the gas cap. When was the last time you found gas with lead in it? Most of these laws once they are on the book they never get changed. In this case something must have happened to get them to back off. Maybe someone with a better memory of those times will jump in here with an idea or two.

74 PintoWagon · « **Reply #75 on:** July 12, 2013, 10:07:35 AM »

Well, unfortunately I was quite older at the time,LOL, but it still escapes me on it. But you're probably right about failure and mass complaints seen that before on different things.

74 PintoWagon · « **Reply #76 on:** July 19, 2013, 10:30:32 AM »

Well, while I waited for the heater core to get here I got tied up in other stuff but yesterday decided to service the tranny and change the oil in the motor, while under the car I noticed coolant on the ground, come to find out the lower radiator hose outlet has a pin hole where it was brazed on, so I guess today's project is pulling the "new" radiator and fix the leak, was hoping to get the heater box all back together and back in the car, oh well....

Pinto5.0 · « **Reply #77 on:** July 19, 2013, 10:44:14 AM »

That blows

74 PintoWagon · « **Reply #78 on:** July 19, 2013, 11:48:08 AM »

Yeah it does, but story of my life if there's a bad one in the pile guess who gets it, I always tell them at the counter want to weed out the junk just sell me something, lol...

74 PintoWagon · « **Reply #79 on:** July 19, 2013, 02:38:59 PM »

Done, rad out soldered back in and no leaks, in less than an hour, try that with one of these new cars, LOL... Heater box is next..

waldo786 · « **Reply #80 on:** July 21, 2013, 07:58:17 PM »

My grandfather's '76 wagon had a 5 blade fan on it that came with with factory A/C. I do have a bit of bad news though - this was such a great thread and I was going to order a new radiator, but autozone doesn't seem to have these anymore. When I go to checkout it says the requested quantity is not available.

They have have a 20% off deal going too and they are far cheaper than anywhere else I've come across. Grrrr...

Pinto5.0 · « **Reply #81 on:** July 21, 2013, 09:26:56 PM »

Quote from: waldo786 on July 21, 2013, 07:58:17 PM

My grandfather's '76 wagon had a 5 blade fan on it that came with with factory A/C. I do have a bit of bad news though - this was such a great thread and I was going to order a new radiator, but autozone doesn't seem to have these anymore. When I go to checkout it says the requested quantity is not available. They have have a 20% off deal going too and they are far cheaper than anywhere else I've come across. Grrrr...

Holy cow, I tried it too. We bought the last of them

waldo786 · « **Reply #82 on:** July 21, 2013, 09:42:12 PM »

I'm going to go to the store tomorrow and ask them about it. Maybe they have one somewhere. It sucks because my hatchback has what seems to be a very new radiator, it's just not the heavy duty one for A/C, which I plan on installing in my car. I have the old A/C one from my grandfather's car, maybe I should just use it? Do radiators go bad? There seems to be a bit of gunk inside, but I do know they make cleaners.

74 PintoWagon · « **Reply #83 on:** July 21, 2013, 09:51:52 PM »

Wow glad I got mine when I did, somebody has to have them somewhere though I would think..

Pinto5.0 · « **Reply #84 on:** July 22, 2013, 02:03:16 PM »

They are still on Ebay under part# CU426 so it could be that AutoZone's warehouse is out. Hopefully they will stock them again.

74 PintoWagon · « **Reply #85 on:** July 22, 2013, 02:20:30 PM »

Well that's good, almost tempted to get another one for a spare just in case..

waldo786 · « **Reply #86 on:** July 22, 2013, 02:30:33 PM »

I did see those, but they are $201.XX. Quite a big difference from the $115 shipped somebody else mentioned, so I'll wait and see if autozone gets more in. RockAuto has a Pro Rad/APDI one on there for $176, but that's still a big difference. I do at least have a 5% off coupon for there, but it doesn't take off that much.

Pinto5.0 · « **Reply #87 on:** July 22, 2013, 04:26:27 PM »

I made a couple calls & apparently the warehouse is temporarily out of stock which is why the order wont go through. How long before they have stock or if they will re-stock nobody knows but the new part number will be B426 if it ever hits the warehouse.

74 PintoWagon · « **Reply #88 on:** July 22, 2013, 07:19:44 PM »

Thanks for the heads up, I'm saving that number.

74 PintoWagon · « **Reply #89 on:** July 22, 2013, 09:47:32 PM »

Ok now that the radiator issue has been fixed it's back to the heater box, cleaned it all up and made my heater core gaskets today and it's ready to put back together... But something puzzles me, the old core and the new one both have 3/4" top and 5/8" bottom hose fittings, but the pump fitting, the choke manifold and the intake fitting are all 5/8", and the old core had 5/8" hoses someone forced 5/8" hose on the 3/4" fitting?, what's up with this?, do I have the wrong heater core?, searched all over and all have the same core with 3/4 top and 5/8 bottom. It's just not making any sense to me I am totally cornfused, what am I missing here???... And looking at Joe's setup he has the same size hoses on both too???

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