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Radiator Question!
« on: June 12, 2013, 11:38:34 AM »
Hey guys, pulled the radiator out and noticed the extension on the left and the support is open all the way, looks like a bigger radiator was available for this car, is this true or am I dreaming??, I searched all over but can't find anything than what I have, only engine options I could find were only a 2.0 and 2.3, was there anything else?, now if there is no option for a bigger radiator is there one that would bolt in without modifications??(don't want to be drilling holes all over the place)figure it wouldn't hurt to have a little more capacity with our 115* summer temps.. Thanks for any info guys..

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Re: Radiator Question!
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2013, 12:23:54 PM »
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/parts/Radiator/_/N-8ii30?filterByKeyWor d=cu426&fromString=search&isSearchByPart Number=true
 
This is the one I put in my wagon last fall. It's for A/C cars so it's wider than stock but bolts to factory bolt holes.  Mine has a 2.3L but I'm not sure if the hoses are on the same sides if you have a 2.0L.
 
If you order online there is a 20% discount at checkout for promo code DAD20 which probably expires after fathers day. Hope this helps.
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Re: Radiator Question!
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2013, 12:29:01 PM »
Hoses are in the same locations. :)

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Re: Radiator Question!
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2013, 12:34:50 PM »
when i first got my pinto it use to spit out antifreeze when ever i stopped,what a mess,plus it ran a little on the hot side.installed the radiator list above plus went to 5 bladed fan from mustang 2, coolest theroslat at autozone and istalled a radiator overfill tank.car runs great in all kinds of weather even 105 we had up here in turlock last weekend while in car cruise/show. cooler it runs the better.  chris
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Re: Radiator Question!
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2013, 12:42:47 PM »
Hoses are in the same locations. :)

That's good to know. I just ordered one for my '73 since I'm gonna put the 2.0 back in temporarily so I can drive it. $115 shipped with the discount is too cheap to pass up.
 
BTW  74 PintoWagon, the new rad, thermostat & water pump dropped my temps from 205 in summer down to 175 degrees & in winter I can barely get it above 155 degrees. That's with a tiny 12" flex fan. I had a 15" fan on it & couldn't get over 130 in winter so I swapped fans to stop cooling it down. The bigger fan in summer would keep it below 170 but I may go electric this year so I can get heat next winter instead of just warm air.
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Re: Radiator Question!
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2013, 12:45:18 PM »
Art come on over to Pinto World and I could show you the difference in radiators your only 1 mile from me. Also we have another newbe name John who has a yellow 73 wagon and 2 V-8 Mustang 2 he lives next to water tanks on river about 2 blocks from you. And yea the 115 temp does zoop !    Fred   ;D 8)
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Re: Radiator Question!
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2013, 03:55:41 PM »
I just put in a new radiator in my 71 with a 2.3. I got it from Oriellys. The application was a 76 2.3 with air. The lower passenger side outlet is curved over to the passenger side somewhat so I had to shorten the hose for this same application. Not enough room for a fan blade so I mounted a small electric fan on the front side of radiator. I dont even have to turn on the fan most of the time. Works great.

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Re: Radiator Question!
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2013, 04:17:24 PM »
The pinto radiator came in two sizes.  17" and 20".  '74 and up could use both.  To install the 20" in my '73 I had to cut, move and weld in the drivers side radiator edge support. I overlapped the metal to increase strength. It took time to think out, but overall it was pretty straight forward.

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Re: Radiator Question!
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2013, 09:00:56 PM »
Thanks much for the info guys things make sense now, this car had A/C but I guess they never put the right radiator in..

Pinto5.0 thanks for the link and the code, I'll be ordering it first thing in the morning, mine is a 2.3 so it should be good, sounds like it should do real well...

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Re: Radiator Question!
« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2013, 10:22:21 AM »
I hope it cures your temp issues. Keep in mind that if the AZ temps sill heat it up then a good fan & shroud can easily pull another 15 degrees out of it.
 
Also your tranny lines may need some coaxing into place since the in/outlets are farther apart but this could be a good time to splice in a trans cooler after the stock one if you haven't already.
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Re: Radiator Question!
« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2013, 10:42:25 AM »
I hope it cures your temp issues. Keep in mind that if the AZ temps sill heat it up then a good fan & shroud can easily pull another 15 degrees out of it.
 
Also your tranny lines may need some coaxing into place since the in/outlets are farther apart but this could be a good time to splice in a trans cooler after the stock one if you haven't already.
Thanks, it's got a pretty good size fan on it now(not stock)so I'll give it a try and see what happens, yeah, I already thought about a cooler and I have one now that would fit perfect.
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Re: Radiator Question!
« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2013, 12:59:40 PM »
Here is a picture of the two factory radiators side by side (17" - 20").

See post #7 for the modifications to the radiator cradle to accommodate the 20" radiator in a 71-73 Pinto. Doubling up the metal (sliding over each other) strengthens the area.

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Re: Radiator Question!
« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2013, 01:46:07 PM »
Thanks for the pic, quite a bit of difference there..
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Re: Radiator Question!
« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2013, 07:53:00 PM »
Well, ordered the radiator, new hoses, T-sat housing and t-stat today, hope the radiator fits because according to the Zone it don't fit this car, oh well guess I'll find out soon enough, lol...
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Re: Radiator Question!
« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2013, 10:20:06 PM »
Talk about fast shipping. I ordered it yesterday & it came today. It's 20" wide BTW & looks identical to Wittsends pic.



Early 74's had the narrow early radiator support from the '71 to '73 cars so that maybe why Autozone says it won't fit. Considering the side extension on your original radiator I'd guess you have the late '74 radiator support so it should bolt right in.
 
The 1st one went in my '76 wagon in 15 minutes so I know it fits. This one will either end up in my '73 sedan or I may have a '71 in my near future to use it in but those will need widened.
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Re: Radiator Question!
« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2013, 06:46:33 AM »
you guys are so lucky that thye make a radiator for your cars!! they dont make one for the v6 pinto/bobcats!!
 
 
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Re: Radiator Question!
« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2013, 08:40:46 AM »
you guys are so lucky that thye make a radiator for your cars!! they dont make one for the v6 pinto/bobcats!!
Should be able to get yours re cored?, of course if the tanks are bad then that's another story..
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Re: Radiator Question!
« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2013, 08:48:36 AM »
Talk about fast shipping. I ordered it yesterday & it came today. It's 20" wide BTW & looks identical to Wittsends pic.



Early 74's had the narrow early radiator support from the '71 to '73 cars so that maybe why Autozone says it won't fit. Considering the side extension on your original radiator I'd guess you have the late '74 radiator support so it should bolt right in.
 
The 1st one went in my '76 wagon in 15 minutes so I know it fits. This one will either end up in my '73 sedan or I may have a '71 in my near future to use it in but those will need widened.
Ordered  mine yesterday and an hour later got an e-mail saying shipped, according to the tracking I should have it Tuesday, we'll see...

Guess that makes sense, radiator support is open all the way, it did look weird having an extension didn't make sense at first, lol..
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Re: Radiator Question!
« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2013, 09:24:54 AM »
RECORE IS AN OPTION BUT STILL USING OLD TANKS THAT COULD BE A PROBLEM RIGHT AFTER RECORE PLUS I WOULD END UP PAYING FOR FOR A RECORE THEN U GUYS PAY FOR A BRAND NEW OUT OF THE BOX WITH WARRENTY!! GOT 2 QUOTES HERE IN TOWN FOR $300.00 AND $357.00. SO I FLUSHED IT AND SEEMS TO FLOW WELL SO TILL IT PLUGS UP OR CAUSE ME A PROBLEM WILL KEEP ON LOOKING IN EPAY FOR A NOS ONE!!
 
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« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2013, 10:50:11 AM »
Yeah, if tanks are not good it's a waste, I've had quite a few done and last a long time, but I also had some that the radiator shop wouldn't do it for that reason they said tanks were going away and wouldn't last six months.
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« Reply #20 on: June 14, 2013, 02:04:42 PM »
just suprised they dont make parts for these little cars anymore!! like gas tanks and radiators!! seem like a cheap part they can make some $$ coin on!! and would think the mustang 2 and pinto v6 radiator would be the same!!!   o well   take care!!
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« Reply #21 on: June 14, 2013, 05:32:59 PM »
Must be the ole "supply and demand thing" all about the money, if they don't see huge profits too bad you lose, it's a shame but that's the way it goes I guess.. ::) :(
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« Reply #22 on: June 15, 2013, 11:59:03 PM »
I agree with the supply and demand but these little cars are making a big come back I feel, the listings on epay lately have been crazy a lot of them and at high prices!!
but if I owned a 60's Camaro or mustang I could build the whole car from a parts catalog don't even need the original car other then the title and vin tag!! I like to drive something total different, so that's why I own 2 bobcats a hatch back and a wagon!! 
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« Reply #23 on: June 16, 2013, 08:42:31 AM »
I hear ya on being different I feel the same way, hopefully these cars will keep getting more popular and maybe someone will start making more parts for them..
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« Reply #24 on: June 17, 2013, 09:19:49 PM »
Radiator came today big difference from the old one, shouldn't be a problem now no matter how hot it gets, looks like it fits a variety of vehicles too from the string of bolt holes it has, we'll see how it all fits in the morning..

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Re: Radiator Question!
« Reply #25 on: June 18, 2013, 03:08:50 AM »
maybe a problem with the height? the replacement looks to be considerably taller than the original
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Re: Radiator Question!
« Reply #26 on: June 18, 2013, 07:08:05 AM »
Shouldn't be a problem, I put them side by side and the holes that matched put it at the same height at the top, but we'll find out for sure this morning..
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« Reply #27 on: June 18, 2013, 11:01:48 AM »
It fits, trust me  8)
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« Reply #28 on: June 18, 2013, 11:20:14 AM »
Here's a pic of it installed in my '76 wagon. That 15" fan made it run too cool in winter so I went to a 12".
 
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Re: Radiator Question!
« Reply #29 on: June 18, 2013, 11:27:36 AM »
Looks like the same fan as I have now, my spacer is longer though, may have to change that?, I'll find out real quick though heading out to install it now, I'll take a pic when I'm done..

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