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Title: pinto 2.3 and c3 trans
Post by: natedawg15 on March 04, 2014, 02:48:44 PM
  Hello I am new to this site.  I have a 1980 pinto 2.3 as well as a unknown year c3 trans.  I was going to buy a flex plate and torque converter for it but I see that the 70s pintos use different tc, s  than the 80, s  what will I need as far as tc and flexplate?  Can I just use all for a 1980 since that is what the engine is?  Thanks for the help
Title: Re: pinto 2.3 and c3 trans
Post by: natedawg15 on March 04, 2014, 06:27:10 PM
Actually maybe I should just ask if there is a way to find out the year on my c3 tranny.  The only numbers I found were 74DT-7A231 and G80290  if this may help?
Title: Re: pinto 2.3 and c3 trans
Post by: dennisofaz on March 04, 2014, 08:46:06 PM
Hi Natedwag15,


I just took out my 76 C3 transmission and swiched it to a C4.  I have a low mileage flexplate and Torque converter.  Thew Converter is not stock, I took it to a converter builder and raised the stall to 2500 with a stock 2.3.  I would be willing to sell both for $40 + shipping.


Dennis
Title: Re: pinto 2.3 and c3 trans
Post by: dennisofaz on March 04, 2014, 09:13:32 PM
Hi Natedawg15,


I missed the part that it needs to be an 1980, sorry.


Dennis
Title: Re: pinto 2.3 and c3 trans
Post by: natedawg15 on March 04, 2014, 09:45:32 PM
I am realy not sure if it needs to be an 1980 that is the motor year.  I am not sure on the tranny  I wonder if the way the tc bolts to the flexplate is the only difference.  Not sure that is kinda what I am trying to figure out.  Please find out what it would cost to ship that to 60957 paxton il might take a chance for that.  Thank you
Title: Re: pinto 2.3 and c3 trans
Post by: dennisofaz on March 04, 2014, 10:10:35 PM
Hi Natedawg15,


I bet that you will not have any problems with the converter and flexplate that I have, as long as you have a C3 trans.  The recommended flex-plate for your car WITH A C3 is a D4 part number, which is a 1974 part.  Follow this link to Rockauto: http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=65709&cc=1135268.  My flex-plate is exactly what is shown, and was just removed last week.  I will look into shipping tomorrow to your zip code.


Dennis
Title: Re: pinto 2.3 and c3 trans
Post by: natedawg15 on March 05, 2014, 12:14:10 AM
Thanks please let me know.
Title: Re: pinto 2.3 and c3 trans
Post by: amc49 on March 05, 2014, 03:46:25 AM
I too think you can cross use year models mostly. Difference will be in V6 or the 4 and C3 vs. A4LD which have a clutch in them and won't work. Make sure the OD of converter is right. A4LD is a C3 modded to have OD and a converter clutch. The C3 does not have that.

The V6 and 4 are different stalls for different engines, the OD may be different.
Title: Re: pinto 2.3 and c3 trans
Post by: dennisofaz on March 05, 2014, 11:24:03 AM
Hi Natedawg15


I checked FedEx ad the ground shipping rate is $25.  Let me know what you would like to do.


Dennis
Title: Re: pinto 2.3 and c3 trans
Post by: natedawg15 on March 05, 2014, 02:39:19 PM
  Yes Dennis it seems like it will work.  I will take the setup it will be 65 for everything right?  Do you have paypal I will send your money asap  if you can send me your paypal info.
Title: Re: pinto 2.3 and c3 trans
Post by: natedawg15 on March 16, 2014, 08:23:12 PM
  Turns out the converter will not fit the 1980 motor the little shaft that slides into the engine is the wrong size. Bummer I will keep looking.
Title: Re: pinto 2.3 and c3 trans
Post by: dennisofaz on March 17, 2014, 02:28:26 PM
Hi Natedawg,


Is the hole too small, or too big, on the back of the engine? Can you measure the pilot hole?  I looked up on Rock auto a torque converter for a 75 pinto C3, and it is the same for a 80 C3.  They do however call it a stepped pilot, 0.875" to 0.750".  I do not remember but i think the converter I sold you is only the 0.75" pilot.  Please let me know the details, and if the converter doesn't work out, you can keep it and I will give you some money back.


Dennis
Title: Re: pinto 2.3 and c3 trans
Post by: natedawg15 on March 17, 2014, 08:29:06 PM
  No you do not need to send any money back. The converter was to big my dad is a machinest he can make it smaller.    I was just wanting anyone else doing it to check it out.  Should hopefully have everything together this weekend.  Thanks again.
Title: Re: pinto 2.3 and c3 trans
Post by: amc49 on March 18, 2014, 06:34:30 AM
Torque converter simply pilots off that snout, it does not spin separately like a clutch/trans input shaft does. Being the difference is an exact 1/8" there are a number of ways someone could take up that looseness there. Maybe some kind of $4 silicon bronze bushing at hardware store, we got them all over the place here. A piece of 1/16" sheet aluminum cut carefully in a strip and rolled up in there to be trapped would work.