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Title: MODERN REPLACEMENT ENGINE FOR '75 6-CYLINDER AUTOMATIC?
Post by: moonwatcher on March 29, 2015, 11:41:01 AM
Guys! Can anyone recommend a list of modern 6 cylinder engines that would easily fit my 75 automatic? Eventually, I'd love to return it to stock, but for now I just need it to DRIVE, for filming purposes... Thanks!
Title: Re: MODERN REPLACEMENT ENGINE FOR '75 6-CYLINDER AUTOMATIC?
Post by: dianne on March 29, 2015, 03:24:18 PM
Guys! Can anyone recommend a list of modern 6 cylinder engines that would easily fit my 75 automatic? Eventually, I'd love to return it to stock, but for now I just need it to DRIVE, for filming purposes... Thanks!

The 2.8 is good I understand. From Mustang IIs to Rangers.
Title: Re: MODERN REPLACEMENT ENGINE FOR '75 6-CYLINDER AUTOMATIC?
Post by: Wittsend on March 29, 2015, 06:08:33 PM
 You didn't state if your Pinto currently has a 4 or 6 cylinder engine (it would help to know). If you want a "modern" engine then you are talking about fuel injection. This can add complications to the existing car for fuel delivery and wiring issues. The 6 cylinder engine can also have (depending on the engine): motor mount issues, oil pan  to crossmember clearance issues, radiator issues, exhaust issues, transmission mating issues - to mention a few.  It can take extensive fabrication to deal with these potential problems. 

So, just getting it to "DRIVE for filming purposes" is not easily accomplished with a "modern" 6 cylinder engine.  Unless the existing engine is completely destroyed it would seem far more economical and expedient to use/fix it - especially if the only initial purpose is to get it to "drive" for a film..., adding too, you state a desire to return it to stock eventually.

I'm not trying to be harsh, but you are inquiring about a complicated, time consuming process to meet an immediate need and the two basically conflict with each other.
Title: Re: MODERN REPLACEMENT ENGINE FOR '75 6-CYLINDER AUTOMATIC?
Post by: dga57 on March 29, 2015, 07:36:23 PM
OMG!  I love your car!  My first Pinto was an orange 1974 Runabout that I bought new when I was sixteen years old.  Like an idiot, I drove it for two years and traded it - have been trying to find one like it ever since.  Over the years, orange Pintos have become my passion.  Other than the wider moldings, your car looks almost exactly the same as mine did.  If you ever decide to sell it, let me know!  Your photo just made my day! 


Dwayne :)
Title: Re: MODERN REPLACEMENT ENGINE FOR '75 6-CYLINDER AUTOMATIC?
Post by: dick1172762 on March 30, 2015, 10:05:22 AM
You didn't state if your Pinto currently has a 4 or 6 cylinder engine (it would help to know). If you want a "modern" engine then you are talking about fuel injection. This can add complications to the existing car for fuel delivery and wiring issues. The 6 cylinder engine can also have (depending on the engine): motor mount issues, oil pan  to crossmember clearance issues, radiator issues, exhaust issues, transmission mating issues - to mention a few.  It can take extensive fabrication to deal with these potential problems. 

So, just getting it to "DRIVE for filming purposes" is not easily accomplished with a "modern" 6 cylinder engine.  Unless the existing engine is completely destroyed it would seem far more economical and expedient to use/fix it - especially if the only initial purpose is to get it to "drive" for a film..., adding too, you state a desire to return it to stock eventually.

I'm not trying to be harsh, but you are inquiring about a complicated, time consuming process to meet an immediate need and the two basically conflict with each other.
   I'll second all of that 100%
Title: Re: MODERN REPLACEMENT ENGINE FOR '75 6-CYLINDER AUTOMATIC?
Post by: 76hotrodpinto on March 30, 2015, 10:25:12 AM
Unless he's filming the next fast and furious, revenge of the headless pintoman!
Title: Re: MODERN REPLACEMENT ENGINE FOR '75 6-CYLINDER AUTOMATIC?
Post by: Pintosopher on March 30, 2015, 01:24:11 PM
Unless he's filming the next fast and furious, revenge of the headless pintoman!
Could be that a Pinto will star in the next Mad Max movie. The newest one is coming out this year.  Imagine a Pinto with a GT500 motor running nitrous and all that rubber laid down in Aussieland :o
Title: Re: MODERN REPLACEMENT ENGINE FOR '75 6-CYLINDER AUTOMATIC?
Post by: dianne on March 30, 2015, 06:39:18 PM
Is Mel Gibson in the new one? I love the first one!
Title: Re: MODERN REPLACEMENT ENGINE FOR '75 6-CYLINDER AUTOMATIC?
Post by: Pintosopher on March 30, 2015, 07:11:18 PM
Is Mel Gibson in the new one? I love the first one!
Sorry Dianne,
 Mel won't be in this one, but there's always hope that old guy can be written into a new one..
 
 " You & me Max, We're going to give them back their heroes!"
Title: Re: MODERN REPLACEMENT ENGINE FOR '75 6-CYLINDER AUTOMATIC?
Post by: dianne on March 31, 2015, 06:59:20 AM
Sorry Dianne,
 Mel won't be in this one, but there's always hope that old guy can be written into a new one..
 
 " You & me Max, We're going to give them back their heroes!"

That sux!!!! Oh well :(
Title: Re: MODERN REPLACEMENT ENGINE FOR '75 6-CYLINDER AUTOMATIC?
Post by: allendeloura on March 31, 2015, 08:17:14 AM
Hello Patrick,

People may not remember this member.  This is Patrick Reed Johnson.  He has received our help previously.  his works include: 5 - 25 - 77, SPACED INVADERS, BABY'S DAY OUT, DRAGONHEART...


May I suggest also giving a post or two over at fordranger.com  and 4m.net .
Each site has a strong following as well as classified sections.

Be sure to post your location as you never know that donor motor may be closer than you think.
Who knows.  Perhaps a film credit could be arranged in exchange for the motor?

Regards,
Allen
Title: Re: MODERN REPLACEMENT ENGINE FOR '75 6-CYLINDER AUTOMATIC?
Post by: Pintocrazed on March 31, 2015, 08:43:14 AM
A PINTO IN A MOVIE??????THAT WOULD BE GREAT ONLY IF IT WASNT TREATED LIKE THEY WERE IN OTHERS.BE PRETTY FUNNY TO SEE THE PINTO HIT A FANCY CAR AND IT BLOW UP INSTEAD OF THE PINTO.I WOULD THINK A 3.8 OUT OF A MUSTANG WOULDNT BE HARD
Title: Re: MODERN REPLACEMENT ENGINE FOR '75 6-CYLINDER AUTOMATIC?
Post by: Wittsend on March 31, 2015, 09:12:24 AM
Actually the Pinto gets a decent starring roll in the Movie "Double Nickels" where it "off-roads" down a long flight of stairs.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ez-1WSkfcWY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ez-1WSkfcWY)
Title: Re: MODERN REPLACEMENT ENGINE FOR '75 6-CYLINDER AUTOMATIC?
Post by: 76hotrodpinto on March 31, 2015, 09:26:52 AM
Awesome!!!
Title: Re: MODERN REPLACEMENT ENGINE FOR '75 6-CYLINDER AUTOMATIC?
Post by: 65ShelbyClone on April 05, 2015, 01:00:08 PM
Guys! Can anyone recommend a list of modern 6 cylinder engines that would easily fit my 75 automatic?

Assuming it's already a V6 car, then a carbureted 2.8 out of a Ranger would probably be the easiest and cheapest to find. The 3.0L and 4.0L V6s out of Rangers and Explorers share the same architecture as the 2.8, but I don't know what is available as far as distributors and carb intakes. The 4.0 was always fuel injected with EDIS (distributorles s) ignition.
Title: Re: MODERN REPLACEMENT ENGINE FOR '75 6-CYLINDER AUTOMATIC?
Post by: dianne on April 05, 2015, 02:50:44 PM
They said a 75 Pinto? That was a 71 through 73 somewhere. Don't know the actual year, but it certainly wasn't a 75...
Title: Re: MODERN REPLACEMENT ENGINE FOR '75 6-CYLINDER AUTOMATIC?
Post by: pinto_one on April 07, 2015, 04:14:42 PM
if the car is a V-6 a bolt in would be a 2.9 out of a Ford Ranger or a Merkur Scorpio , which has a lower intake and stock 145 hp, and can be computor tuned up to 160 hp with stock engine , one more would be the 2.9 Cosworth 24 valve , same block but nice OHC heads, also a bolt in to the pinto , A C-4 or T-5 is a must because it is 200HP stock, mine is the stock 2.8 with the ranger/bronco II 2.9 crank made to fit, mild cam headers , and a efi tbi injection , but wish I just use the 2.9 so I would not have to adjust the valves , but very happy with it because it looks stock,
Title: Re: MODERN REPLACEMENT ENGINE FOR '75 6-CYLINDER AUTOMATIC?
Post by: pinto_one on April 07, 2015, 04:24:04 PM
as for the 4.0 it will also bolt in but you will have to mod the oil pan on one side, someone does make a manifold to use a carb on it and you have to use the 2.8 distribtor housing with a 2.9 shaft , the stock 2.8 pinto mounts will bolt up to the 4.0 block, I have already done a test fit, and easyer than a 5.0,