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Title: Has anyone installed a Patriot header & does it fit?
Post by: Pinto5.0 on August 31, 2012, 05:35:46 PM
I was going to ceramic coat Callisto's header but I can get one of these
 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Patriot-Circle-Track-Headers-Silver-Ceramic-Coated-1-5-8-1-3-4-Tubes-H8401-1-/330778356289?forcev4exp=true (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Patriot-Circle-Track-Headers-Silver-Ceramic-Coated-1-5-8-1-3-4-Tubes-H8401-1-/330778356289?forcev4exp=true)
 
for $150 bucks already coated & save the other header for my wagon. I just need to know if it clears the stock firewall & stock engine mount.
Title: Re: Has anyone installed a Patriot header & does it fit?
Post by: Reeves1 on September 01, 2012, 09:08:17 AM
Looks like you would need to weld a flange on the collector. Then have that coated ?
Title: Re: Has anyone installed a Patriot header & does it fit?
Post by: 71hotrodpinto on September 01, 2012, 02:06:03 PM
They do not fit without creating your own pass side engine mount. That big tube that hangs low will interfere greatly with the stock 2.3 mount.
This is the same design that esslinger created and i called them direct to find out if it would fit for me wayback and thats what they told me.
Hooker and headman both made one for the stock configuration at one time. I dont think that they do anymore though..
GL,
Robert
Title: Re: Has anyone installed a Patriot header & does it fit?
Post by: Pinto5.0 on September 01, 2012, 09:37:41 PM
Looks like you would need to weld a flange on the collector. Then have that coated ?

Nah, I would have made a slip fit connection & used a flat band clamp to seal it up. I cut the flanges off my Hooker headers on my dually 7 years ago to do this & have never had a leak or dealt with collector gaskets ever again.
 
They do not fit without creating your own pass side engine mount. That big tube that hangs low will interfere greatly with the stock 2.3 mount.
This is the same design that esslinger created and i called them direct to find out if it would fit for me wayback and thats what they told me.
Hooker and headman both made one for the stock configuration at one time. I dont think that they do anymore though..
GL,
Robert

What brainiac made a header that wont clear the engine mounts? There's plenty of room to run that tube without moving the mount out of the way. Ceramic coating is nearly as much as that header costs already coated which was why I wanted to use it. I'm gonna have to give this some thought.
Title: Re: Has anyone installed a Patriot header & does it fit?
Post by: 71hotrodpinto on September 02, 2012, 01:52:34 AM
Well that header was designed for mini stocks. Not street cars.
However, now that I think about it maybe that picture is a generic picture? Check with patriot or call summit racing for verification.
Title: Re: Has anyone installed a Patriot header & does it fit?
Post by: 71pintoracer on September 03, 2012, 08:27:36 AM
Right you are 71hotrodpinto, that is the same header design that walsh & esslinger have they are made for tube chassis mini stocks, I had one on my stock chassis race car but it had front plate motor mounts and I had to modify the firewall for clearance. That is a full race header, prob not a good choice for a street car
Title: Re: Has anyone installed a Patriot header & does it fit?
Post by: Pinto5.0 on September 03, 2012, 03:10:31 PM
Story of my life......
 
Nothing is ever simple or cheap  ::)
Title: Re: Has anyone installed a Patriot header & does it fit?
Post by: Pinto5.0 on September 04, 2012, 04:34:39 PM
Problem solved.....
 
I found a ceramic coated version of the Pacesetter header 72C1064 on Amazon for $249 bucks shipped. At least this header supposedly fits.
 
(http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af357/OrangeCrushMustang/KGrHqVpEFYYD59E3BQJZ8lrIMg60_1.jpg)
 
That allows me to use my Ranger header on my wagon & gives me a pretty, shiny one to run on Callisto without having to coat the Ranger header for her.