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gouge in oil filter flange
« on: March 31, 2015, 01:50:47 AM »
 ok this isnt on my Po but curious if anyones dealt with this before.

 My other car has a gouge on the round flange that the oil filter screws onto, and if you make it supert tight it barely leaks,but still does enough to smoke off the exhaust.

 How would you approach this?

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Re: gouge in oil filter flange
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2015, 06:35:15 AM »
Might try filling it with jb weld and sanding smooth.
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Re: gouge in oil filter flange
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2015, 06:40:53 AM »
HOW IN THE WORLD????
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Re: gouge in oil filter flange
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2015, 07:08:52 AM »
Custom oil pressure release.
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Re: gouge in oil filter flange
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2015, 12:15:45 PM »
ok this isnt on my Po but curious if anyones dealt with this before.

 My other car has a gouge on the round flange that the oil filter screws onto, and if you make it supert tight it barely leaks,but still does enough to smoke off the exhaust.

 How would you approach this?
What car and engine? solution depends on the setup as perfect surface cleanup is best. Is the filter housing removable?
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Re: gouge in oil filter flange
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2015, 12:34:26 PM »
 I dont know if its removable it looks like its not.
 ts on my 1984 Corvette no idea how it happened probably before I bought it.

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Re: gouge in oil filter flange
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2015, 03:05:39 PM »
If it has never been filed/sanded to remove the highs then simply doing that may fix it. Sometimes the gasket will fill in the lows but only if the highs are gone, the highs cut the gasket as it is screwed on tight. If not sealing after doing that then one of the few places where an epoxy patch may well work but it needs to be bone dry to make the patch stick longterm.

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Re: gouge in oil filter flange
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2015, 05:02:17 PM »
 Picture of it

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Re: gouge in oil filter flange
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2015, 05:10:27 PM »
My Studebaker Daytona has an engine out of a '85 corvette.  It has an oil/water cooler on it. Perhaps this is what is damaged?  If so, your options are to replace it, repair it (as mentioned) or remove it and forgo the cooler. While it is helpful under "normal" conditions it is probably not necessary. Regardless, go with out it at your own risk.  Who knows it might just be loose itself and leaking???  Anyway, here is a picture so you know what to look for. The cooler is the dark piece between the filter and the block.

Update - Well your picture got there right before I sent my post. OK, I'd J.B. Weld the thing (or something similar) making sure the metal was immaculate before applying (use brake cleaner as a final cleaning agent).

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Re: gouge in oil filter flange
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2015, 05:47:06 PM »
Is your Studebaker one of the last ones with the Chevrolet engines from the factory? I had occasion to talk to Alan Young on a radio call in show about Studebakers and he kidded me that maybe the company sponsoring Mr. Ed put them out of business!

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Re: gouge in oil filter flange
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2015, 06:37:36 PM »
Yes..., and no. Mines a '64 Daytona (Lark type), but, yes the last style Studebaker built. So, it would have had the Studebaker engine originally. However..., somewhere in its life it was swapped out with the McKinnon Industries engine (GM/Chevy 283) that were put in the '65-'66 Studebaker's (Canada only).  Then I got the '85 - 350 Corvette engine (66,000 miles $171 off Ebay, I picked up/no shipping). Sold the McKinnon 283 for $159 and the engine swap cost me $12. :D Anyway, that is how I knew the Corvettes have the oil cooler. Sorry for the side track... one comment always leads to another.

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Re: gouge in oil filter flange
« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2015, 11:58:53 AM »
Regardless of Mr. Young's joke, I think the exposure of their cars on "Mr. Ed" probably did Studebaker more good than harm!


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Re: gouge in oil filter flange
« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2015, 04:24:14 PM »
Looks like a casting flaw.
Call a machine shop for advice: you do not want to repeat the job.

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Re: gouge in oil filter flange
« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2015, 06:51:23 PM »
Drill a hole at the edge of the void. Tap the hole. Install screw. Cut off screw. Smooth the cut off screw. Never leak again. Easy job as its cast iron. Been there / done that. Jb weld will never work cause you'll never be able to get the void clean enough.
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Re: gouge in oil filter flange
« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2015, 11:31:23 PM »
So how do all the pushrod intake side walls built up with epoxy last so long?

It CAN be done, simply that most do not clean it well enough.

Grind the hole a bit bigger so the glue plug cannot fit through the smaller opening and it CAN'T fall out. Easier to use glue rather than screw there but the screw idea will work and be permanent, the epoxy might be too depending on how done. I've run epoxied pushrod walls on heads and they lasted for years if done right. I've got epoxied carb fuel circuits that have lasted for years under fuel as well. Depends on how well you can trap the work.

I ran epoxy on dents in printing press cylinders and pressure on the patch at 750 psi/sq.in. and again years and millions of impressions on the work, we reworked the patches at a cylinder rebuild and years between those. If cleaned right at install the patches did not come loose even using like acetone, MEK, and xylene on the cylinders.

I agree it looks like a casting flaw.......... ......

The way the work is done makes it or breaks it when it comes to epoxy work. Much of it as practiced by the outside world does not work as it is not well thought out at all.