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Offline D.R.Ball

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Glass wagon into cruising wagon
« on: February 28, 2013, 11:46:54 AM »
Hello , I'm going to change my glass wagon into the Cruising Wagon using the panel that I'm buying. The seller does not have the inner panels (wood ) is this going to be a problem ? I'm going to do some rust repair around the last side window areas  and I might just put metal in place of the windows and then mount the outside Cruising Wagon Panels over them. Is there anything else that I might need ? It looks like there is a series of flanged hangers that is on the Cruising Wagon in place of the window glass are these for mounting the inner panel .Anything else outside of some hardware ? Any seals between  the Wagon panel and the side of the body itself ?
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Re: Glass wagon into cruising wagon
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2013, 03:03:36 PM »
Do you have the drip rail corner moldings?  The inner panels are held in with clips and the brackets you mentioned.  The brackets are spot welded in the window frame.  Most people that convert use screws to secure the inner panels when they do not have all the factory hardware.  I think you will need the corner moldings before you install the panels.  The rest can be added at a later time in my opinion.  The panels are held in with sheet metal screws. 1/4 in hex heads on the inside and pan head philips on the outside. I have a set of corner moldings if you do not have any.  Send me a PM if you are interested.
 



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Re: Glass wagon into cruising wagon
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2013, 05:14:15 PM »
Good luck finding the inner panel clips. I used my own method of door clips and screwing on small panels to the inside to make sure the door clips would hold the inner panel but I did keep the lower brakets as seen in pics #3 and #4 of the post above on during mounting but if you don't have an orignal set of inner panels you would have to come up with a mouting system of your own and of course make your own panels. As far as seals in mounting the outer panel there are none just use some good body sealer and don't miss so you dont have a leak later on and I used stainless rivets to mount the outer panel on the outside.
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Re: Glass wagon into cruising wagon
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2013, 11:37:06 PM »
I'll know more when I get the panels. I looks like they wrap around both the front and the back. I'm sure I can rivet etc the outer panels. In the inside I'm just going to use some sheet metal on the inside and spot weld them to the pinch welds where the windows would be, the outer panels with the port holes will just be used to make the car look nice. I do not like the look of the carpet on wood panels (It's oh so 1970's)...My wagon has the drip rails but not the ones going down....Hey Tigger , I might need those corners I'll let you know when I get the panels. Is the sealing tape double sided ? It looks like it.
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Re: Glass wagon into cruising wagon
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2013, 11:57:59 PM »
Here is a picture of what I am talking about.  They are just little extensions to the drip rail that round out the corner.  The other picture is of the moldings that cover the outer screw holes.  The moldings that cover the screw holes at the rear of the panels are metal and are body color.  The moldings that cover the screw holes next to the doors are rubber and are all light grey from what I have seen.  These are old pictures of spare parts I kept for my crusing wagon.  Since I sold my crusing wagon, I have sold most of my spare crusing wagon parts.  I do have a couple sets of the corner drip rail moldings though.
The factory used some of that black strip caulk stuff to seal the side panels.  It does not harden.  I would not use any type of sealer that harden or you will never get the panels off without damaging them. 

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Re: Glass wagon into cruising wagon
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2013, 10:09:44 PM »
Since you are making the car I will assume that paint and bodywork is in it's future. If that is the case then throw all that junk away.  take a grinder and go all the way around the panels until you cut through the fold on the edge. this will let you separate the outer panel from the inner structure. trim the backs of the panels to mate at the body line at the back of the windows instead of having it curve all the way around the car.  Position the panel and mount it with some small screws about a foot apart.take the panel off. Buy a tube of Lord Fuzor glue and glue the panels on using the screws to hold it. let the glue dry n pull the screws, tack weld the holes shut to keep the panels from creeping.  a skiff of filler to feather the edges and a much nicer finished product than any of that screw and plastic cap stuff can provide
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Re: Glass wagon into cruising wagon
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2013, 10:35:55 PM »
OhSix9. That looks real good I might do the same, but right now I just need the panels to cover up some quick rust out repairs. Either way I have to remove old windows and cut out some rust and then put the panels on.No one makes replacement seals for the back side windows. So it will be a quick fix for now.....After I get my 1974 Datsun 260Z up and running after doing some replacement of floor pans etc.
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