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Another tranny question
« on: September 02, 2011, 06:09:26 PM »
Just purchased a 2.3 motor and tranny. Seller states that it has a C3 attached. I have a 2.0 with a C4 already and I'm wondering if C4 will match up to the 2.3?

Which tranny is better the C4 or C3?

If they will swap, how hard of a job is it and is it worth the trouble?


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Re: Another tranny question
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2011, 06:30:40 PM »
The c4 is a much stronger trans and the 2.0 c4 bell can be bolted to a 2.3 with the use of step dowel pins like these http://www.turbopinto.com/index.php?topic=411.0.
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Re: Another tranny question
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2011, 06:45:58 PM »
that was a 2006 posting with no replies. Anymore suggestions?

I will purchase them today. like to have them by next week.
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Re: Another tranny question
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2011, 06:56:48 PM »
Only other person i know that sells them are Paul LeDuc Over on Turboford http://forum.turboford.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=6;t=014626 But at the moment hes in the hospital he fell down a flight of stairs during the hurricane so he might not be able to sell them for a while.
 
Id bet you can drill the holes in the bellhousing just enough to make the 2.3 dowels fit or if you know of any machine shops have them make a couple dowels all they do is go from the larger 2.3 dowel and reduce to the smaller size of the 2.0 bell dowel hole.
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Re: Another tranny question
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2011, 07:41:36 PM »
Man I hate to hear that about him falling. Off the topic, how do you get signed up for turbopinto. I've been waiting on the on a conformation e-mail for some time
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Re: Another tranny question
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2011, 07:44:38 PM »
So dowels are the only challenge? Everything else just bolts up?
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Re: Another tranny question
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2011, 08:23:00 PM »
yup everything else should bolt up fine to the best of my knowledge.
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Re: Another tranny question
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2011, 05:05:53 AM »
You may also need a flex plate depending on the vintage of your C3.  My 72 Pinto 2.0 C4 used a 4 stud torque converter while the 79 Pinto 2.3 C3 used a 3 bolt torque converter.  I have seen a 90's Mustang 2.3 overdrive C3 with a 4 bolt torque converter.  I believe I have read that the parts store replacement 2.3 flex plates are drilled for both patterns, but check before buying.
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Re: Another tranny question
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2011, 09:32:07 PM »
OK, I'll say it, what's wrong with the C-3? a C-3 is as strong or close to a Pinto C-4, in case you don't know, a Pinto C4 is not the same internally as any other C-4, a Pinto C-4 has a 3 clutch pack forward pack, Yes this can be changed but stock for stock, pick the one that's in the best condition.
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