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Re: best balance of power, fuel economy and cost
« Reply #30 on: April 04, 2014, 05:36:23 AM »
wow, thank you VERY much for that information Amc.
 really makes me wish I could put a v8 in it at this point

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Re: best balance of power, fuel economy and cost
« Reply #31 on: April 04, 2014, 05:40:29 PM »
what are your thoughts on using a properly tuned 5200 on a better manifold?

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Re: best balance of power, fuel economy and cost
« Reply #32 on: April 04, 2014, 09:25:26 PM »
It'll work but kinda problem. The stock 2.3 manifold sucks but will work if you just relegate yourself to a 100 hp. motor. The EFI lower is better but has to have some work done to make it work right. I used  a 2.0 manifold with adapter plate; it worked really well but the plates not commonly available, I made mine.

Most try to use the EFI lower to get more power but the commonly used one inch thick adapter is too low and flow suffers in my view. They make a two inch one that in and of itself would flow much better but that one may not fit under the hood, jury still out with the verdict. I for one haven't tried it yet.

If one could find a stock Offenhauser 2 barrel intake that would probably work OK with a 5200. Hard to find though. And made for inline two barrel, not staged progressive like the stock carb is. Intake work on the 2.3 SOHC is not a cut and dry affair, you have to do work to get anything to work really well.

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Re: best balance of power, fuel economy and cost
« Reply #33 on: April 04, 2014, 09:36:26 PM »
thanks Amc, looks like I've got a lot of decision making to do, got to figure out what I can afford, and what work I can actually do myself. Block off plates and brackets and stuff like that I can do.  Making adapter plates, that's beyond my equipment capabilities

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Re: best balance of power, fuel economy and cost
« Reply #34 on: April 08, 2014, 02:30:52 PM »
so its looking like Ranger exhaust manifold, stock intake and carb , deleting power steering and emissions, swapping to manual trans, adding adjustable cam gear.
 undecided on what air cleaner I'm going to use.
 probably going to keep ignition stock.
 don't know if I'm going to change cams.
 I'm going to worry less about power vs fuel economy, and I'm going to concentrate mostly on simplicity, dependability, and tidiness.

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Re: best balance of power, fuel economy and cost
« Reply #35 on: April 08, 2014, 02:36:20 PM »
If you're going to run the Weber/Holley these are kinda cool air cleaners.

http://www.allcarbs.com/catlist.php?ll=1&ctgn=2&stt=0
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« Reply #36 on: April 11, 2014, 04:39:35 PM »
ok, so , it looks like I'm keeping the automatic. I have had knee surgery on both knees in the past. and they are giving me a lot of trouble lately. At least they started acting up BEFORE I swapped to a manual. LOL.
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looks like I'm sticking with the stock intake and carb.  Deleting power steering and emisisons (leaking power steering and cleaner engine compartment without emissions stuff), Adjustable cam gear.
  With the only change being lack of emissions and adjustable cam gear... is changing to a ranger tubular exhaust manifold even worth the money?

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Re: best balance of power, fuel economy and cost
« Reply #37 on: April 12, 2014, 04:16:48 AM »
Yes, at least in my view. The stocker is abysmal.

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« Reply #38 on: April 12, 2014, 09:07:19 AM »
thanks AMC, now I need to find one :P

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Re: best balance of power, fuel economy and cost
« Reply #39 on: April 12, 2014, 07:29:25 PM »
I bought one of these 2 days ago for when I replace my wagon engine. Cheapest price I've ever found.
 
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« Reply #40 on: April 12, 2014, 10:28:44 PM »
the open air cleaners don't pull in too much heat from the engine compartment?
Seems like everyone is about cold air intakes, you don't see too many people running open ones anymore, even though they look great :]

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Re: best balance of power, fuel economy and cost
« Reply #41 on: April 13, 2014, 05:00:26 PM »
Well, I got everything on hold right now to finish the shop(which is just about done)then I'll be getting back on mine, already have the intake and header just need the carb, plan is to squeeze all the mileage I can without digging into the motor, at least not for a while anyhow..

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Re: best balance of power, fuel economy and cost
« Reply #42 on: April 13, 2014, 06:10:19 PM »
I don't know. If you gotta start deletin nice stuff like power steering in the name of power......may be a bigger engine is in order.

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« Reply #43 on: April 13, 2014, 06:15:54 PM »
I don't know. If you gotta start deletin nice stuff like power steering in the name of power......may be a bigger engine is in order.
can't afford a bigger engine. But since my power steering is leaking, I may as well ditch it

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« Reply #44 on: April 14, 2014, 07:38:27 AM »
can't afford a bigger engine. But since my power steering is leaking, I may as well ditch it
I don't have power steering on mine and as easy as it is I sure wouldn't add it, wife don't even complain about it,lol..
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« Reply #45 on: April 14, 2014, 07:40:24 AM »
Where are the pictures?  Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm LOL  Let's see pics!
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