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Title: 4-speed doesn't lockout at reverse
Post by: Jerry Sharp on February 18, 2016, 07:39:54 PM
I restored my 1971 Runabout and the transmission doesn't stop at first gear to lockout reverse.  It works correctly if you lift up on the shifter and I am guessing there is a spring or a clip missing that should push the transmission rail up.  Has anyone experienced this and have a suggestion?  I have the original Ford shop manual but the transmission diagram doesn't show anything that holds the rail in place.  Does anyone have a good diagram of the 1971 Pinto 4-speed? 
Title: Re: 4-speed doesn't lockout at reverse
Post by: 71HANTO on February 18, 2016, 08:58:34 PM
Take a look at this link to a post. It may be your issue...


71HANTO


http://www.fordpinto.com/index.php?topic=21929.msg134169#msg134169 (http://www.fordpinto.com/index.php?topic=21929.msg134169#msg134169)
Title: Re: 4-speed doesn't lockout at reverse
Post by: Scott Hamilton on February 19, 2016, 10:02:28 AM
Here you go Jerry...

http://www.fordpinto.com/index.php?topic=8746.msg52863#msg52863

:)
Title: Re: 4-speed doesn't lockout at reverse
Post by: LongTimeFordMan on March 08, 2016, 01:54:37 PM
hi all

I'm having the same probem with loose shifter and no lock out..

i just got the car and figured that it was just a the way pinto shifters were.

but now I'm gonna investigate the bushings

I think that I will be able to fabricate a spring of some sort to lift the shifer up to get the reverse lockout but was wondering where I could get the nylon bushing.

also, I have been trying to get in touch with pintony but havent found a way.  Is he still around?
Title: Re: 4-speed doesn't lockout at reverse
Post by: russosborne on March 08, 2016, 07:19:20 PM
Pintony is long gone from this site, sorry.
I don't know if anyone is still in touch with him.
Russ
Title: Re: 4-speed doesn't lockout at reverse
Post by: Wittsend on March 08, 2016, 08:24:43 PM
Cookieboy might be your route to getting in touch with Pintony.  However, I can't recall the last time CB posted here lately. Dare I say with great reluctance - try Facebook.
Title: Re: 4-speed doesn't lockout at reverse
Post by: oldkayaker on March 09, 2016, 06:35:24 AM
Cookieboy is on face book and has a web site with a old Pintony interview.  See links, hopefully he has Pintony contact information for you.
http://www.cookieboystoys.com/friends.htm
https://www.facebook.com/CookieboysToys/timeline?ref=page_internal
Title: Re: 4-speed doesn't lockout at reverse
Post by: LongTimeFordMan on March 09, 2016, 12:18:35 PM
update...

i fixed my reverse lockout issue

I saw that the rubber gromet was deteriorated and that it would not force the shifter up to disengage the lockout.

i removed the c ring above the grommet

then I made two  spacers by wrapping 1/8" aluminum clothesline wire around the shaft above the gromet.

I made the spacers then pressed them down and installed the c ring above the spacers

this compressed the gromet enough to apply tension and raise the shifter.

and the lockout now works.

I plan to replace the gromet with a spring as soon as i find the appropriate spring.

however I found that the nylon bushing was still there but badly worn and i am looking for a source to replace it..

I also found that apparently the bushing can be installed 180 degrees backwards (front to back) and this seems to interfere with the shifter.
Title: Re: 4-speed doesn't lockout at reverse
Post by: robertwwithee on March 10, 2016, 06:47:00 PM
Congratulation s on repair

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