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Title: Carlisle 2008
Post by: 77turbopinto on December 14, 2007, 08:15:12 AM
For those that don't go to All Ford Show at Carlisle, you don’t know what you’re missing. They have things to do for the entire family; Aside from thousands of cars to see in the show field, there is a HUGE swap meet, a 4X4 rock crawl area, a burn-out competition, a chassis dyno, vender displays, kids play area, indoor displays, a ‘For Sale’ area, and much more.

IMHO: You won’t find a better show with a specific PINTO classes, and PCCA gets a tent for us to gather in right next to our Pintos.

All Pintos are welcome; they need not be “show” cars (my tan one was FAR from a show car when I brought it there), if you don’t have a Pinto with you, stop in to see us anyway and show your support of PCCA and your fellow Pinto ‘people’.

Please check out Carlisle’s website for further details:

http://www.carsatcarlisle.com/ford/index.asp

Please remember to include "Pinto Car Club of America" on your form when you register.


Be a part of the best PCCA event EVER!!

See you there!!

BTW: I mentioned this before, but I will again; I will 'chair' or assist with organizing PCCA's members involvement the same way I did in 2007 (I will even try to do better). If anyone else would like to do it, or even co-chair, please let me know. As soon as I have more details about what PCCA is doing this for year, I will post them.


Bill
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008?
Post by: 77turbopinto on December 27, 2007, 01:31:41 PM
I registered Connie and myself for Carlisle today, and I also got the ball rolling for the tent.

One thing I noticed this year; there was information about what makes a car “stock”, “modified” or a “racecar”. They might have had the same details last year, but I don’t think it was as obvious. It says that a ‘stock’ car has 3 or less modifications, a modified car has 4 or more, but it does not say what a ‘modification’ is, however, it gives some clear details for ‘racecars’. I know there were a few questions about this at the last event, so it might be a good idea to talk about it before the event.

Wheels? Tires? Paint? Chrome? Tachometer?.........

Any thoughts?


Bill
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008?
Post by: crazyhorse on December 27, 2007, 02:09:12 PM
I would say that aftermarket repair parts don't count as "mods". Nor would converting to electronig ignition, as long as OEM style parts are used. Mods would be more obvious upgrades, like an MSD box.

So If I installed only a 302, C4, and 8" rear....is that 3 mods? Would I still qualify as "stock"?  :showback: For "Judged shows" HEHEHE
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008?
Post by: 77turbopinto on December 27, 2007, 02:28:24 PM
My point exactly.

I think that COULD be looked at as only one, because Pintos came with C4s and 8" rears. The only thing about it is that you have to make a few "modifications" to install "a" V8 in a Pinto.

Some might argue that changing to aftermarket wheels is '4' modifications too.

Is changing the color and putting on graphics consitered 2?

This is a 'peoples choice' type event.


Bill
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008?
Post by: r4pinto on December 27, 2007, 04:10:18 PM
Well, if that's the case then even my Pinto isn't gonna be stock. Roller cam, black interior instead of tan, different wheels than what was on, 8" rear end, Mustang II console... I say it doesn't matter. Too much emphasis is put on the classes like that, atleast among Pintos.

Once I get the cash I'm gonna get registered for Carlisle. Gonna get the hotel room reserved in a couple more weeks.
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008?
Post by: crazyhorse on December 27, 2007, 04:57:04 PM
Not having been before, is it neccessary that you register for the show, to get to park on the grounds?

IF I get to go, which I doubt, I'd just as soon go park amongst the other Pintos. Then not wory about being judged, even if it is people's choice.

Wouldn't OEM Ford parts of similar vintage, be considerd stock? IE: the black interior, and sotted dish wheels. Even the MII console COULD be considered OEM. Especially to the unknowing masses doing the judging. :)
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008?
Post by: 77turbopinto on December 27, 2007, 05:21:50 PM
Yes, to bring a car in it must be registered, either for show, or for sale.

Parking with the other Pintos is not the issue. I was informed last year that some folks take this VERY seriously. In an effort to be fair to all, I feel that being registered in the correct catagory is (very) important.

I feel if its an OEM "Pinto" or "Pinto" part that was offered for that year/model in that color (interior or exterior), then it's not modified. I also feel that if from all outside apperences it looks stock, it's not modified.

Examples:
1) Swapping a 2.3 into a 74 that had a 2.0 from the factory is not a modification.
2) Installing an 8" rear into a car that came with a 6.75" is not a modification.
3) Installing a roller cam into a 2.3 is not a modification.
4) Changing between colors that were offered the year the car was made is not a modification.
5) Installing a C/W front spoiler on a non-wagon is a modification.
6) Installing a 78 Mustang II center console into 78 Pinto would be a modification (sorry Matt).

Again, these are my just thoughts....

Bill
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008?
Post by: r4pinto on December 27, 2007, 05:28:43 PM
Hmmm... So for now I'd be good then. Ah, who cares. lol Besides the consle the only other mod I plan on doing is replacing my torn up front seats with a set of low back bucket seats from a Tempo or Escort.
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008?
Post by: 77turbopinto on December 27, 2007, 05:36:32 PM
Matt, this was only my opinion.

I think if we all work together on this it will be as fair as it can be.


Bill
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008?
Post by: crazyhorse on December 27, 2007, 05:36:49 PM
I'm sorry, I'm NOT trying to stir up trouble. Just pointing out that, to the general public, what APPEARS to be stock, could be a mod, & vice versa.

I'll shut my yap now & let the serious discussion begin.  ;D
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008?
Post by: r4pinto on December 27, 2007, 06:39:50 PM
Matt, this was only my opinion.

I think if we all work together on this it will be as fair as it can be.


Bill

My bad Bill, I was only joking around. I' d have to say the most important thing about the show is just getting out there & having fun. That and getting the looks from all the people walking around seeing all them Pintos sitting in a row. ;D
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008?
Post by: Pintony on December 28, 2007, 12:17:11 AM
Do Wheels count as a MOD???
 If so? I will have to run 3 alloys and 1 hubcap... ;D
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: phils toys on January 05, 2008, 11:54:56 AM
after doing some research here is what i found as rules conserning stock and modified

STOCK CLASS
The Stock Class will include vehicles that appear to be factory stock. The interior must be original or a duplicate of the original in material, style and color. Engine must be visibly stock for the vehicle's year and model. Numbers do not have to match.. No bolt-on aftermarket parts allowed. Wheels must be available for the year/model of the vehicle

The intent of the "Stock" class is to simulate an original, assembly line condition vehicle. It is recognized that most of these vehicles will have some changes and additions.
list of modifications
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Interior significantly modified (i.e., shag carpet, incorrect seat material, non-factory seat, low-back buckets where high-backs belong, Incorrect year shifter)
Non-stock paint scheme/striping significantly different from production
Factory wheels of incorrect year, significant difference
Non-factory wheels
2 each Ride height altered more than 1 inch, lift kits, after-market shackles, traction bars
Deeply tinted glass
Non-factory shifter, approx stock appearance
Competition, after-market shifter, Vertigate, etc.
1 each Chrome engine or underhood accessories. Chrome valve covers
After-market gauges (including tach)
Dash altered for after-market gauges
Non-factory type carb
Non-factory type intake manifold
 Headers
Incorrect engine color
After-market chrome exhaust tips that differ significantly from factory equipment, or non-factory location
Exterior modifications that significantly alter the appearance of the vehicle (i.e., after-market style scoops, spoilers, air dams, altered or flared wheel openings, tubs, sunroofs, etc.)


 
.MODIFIED CLASS
The following items will automatically put your vehicle in the Modified Class: bodywork that involves a redesign of the original body lines, including but not limited to nosing, chopping, channeling, sectioning, changing radius of wheel wells, moulding, tunneling, etc. Paint that is of custom design such as painted Graphics, shading, blending, candy, pearl, neon, or murals. Engine relocation and/or custom fabricated engine mounts and/or a different engine than was available with any given entry and/or a smoothed out engine block. Any aftermarket )non stock OEM) multiple carb set-ups, tunnel rams, blowers, turbo chargers and/or late model tuned port-type fuel infection on any other era vehicle. Interiors that are of a custom design that consists of changes to three or more of the following: seats, door panels, dash modifications, flooring, headliner, trunk, or truck bed area. See notes concerning dealer- and factory-sold conversions in Stock Class above.
 hope this helps
phils toys
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: r4pinto on January 05, 2008, 12:39:30 PM
What I'm noticing is prolly about half the Pintos out there would be in modified. It's just my opinion, but too much goes into rating the cars as to what class they are.
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: phils toys on January 05, 2008, 01:17:30 PM
Matt , keep in mind  carlisle allows 3  modifications. each rim would not count as one  (4)  buy just 1 modification also other than stock size tires  would be a modification. 
The intent of the "Stock" class is to simulate an original, assembly line condition vehicle. It is recognized that most of these vehicles will have some changes and additions.

just trying to give people an idea 
and if  you are not in it for a "trophy"  and just for  fun   what difference does it make if you are listed in modified  if you did make more than 3 changes?  I do realize this is not a judged  show but i have attended several judged shows and they try to put my car in the modified class  because  they had never seen rims like  them before  so now i carry  proof  they are factory  wheels.
 no matter how it is set some will get upset.

phils toys.
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: r4pinto on January 05, 2008, 01:23:02 PM
Well, when you put it like that Phill, I see your point. I guess I'm just not used to attending car shows as a participant, but as a spectator only. I'd have to say you're right. As long as I have fun at the show I guess it doesn't matter.
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: r4pinto on January 05, 2008, 01:25:55 PM
Thing I noticed is there are people that get around it anyways. When I went to the Chrysler show this year there was a guy that had an 89 Plymouth Horizon done up as an 85 Dodge Omni GLH Turbo clone, and he was in stock FWD class. They didn't even make the GLH after 86, so his car was heavily modified, but nothing was said about it.
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: 77turbopinto on January 05, 2008, 03:02:06 PM
Phil, thats a good list of stuff. The only thing is there are 3 classes, not just those two, and Carlisle has the details on what 'modifications' put a car into the (3rd) racecar class.

Matt, yes there are some that chose to do stuff like that and thats sad; I would hope that in a people's choice the voters would notice things like that and vote accordingly.

Again, the reason I wanted to bring this up now is because of all of the questions on it last year.

Bill
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: Boss2300 on January 05, 2008, 09:21:18 PM
Hi Guys
   In my many years showing my restored to original 70 Boss 302 I discovered that there are a lot of people that put there car in shows for trophys. I call them trophy hunters & they get upset when they get beat out. Even if they lose to a better car. It is harder & more costly to restore a car to original. By original I mean with original  restored parts or NOS parts with the correct part # on them & not over the counter Ford replacement parts. Ford replacement parts are not allways the same as came on the car from the factory. A simple explanation would be a turn signal that came from the factory with a blue wire plug & an over the counter one has a black plug. I go to shows to enjoy the cars & the people I meet. If I win a trophy it's great if I don't it's no biggie to me. It is important to have good rules set for the classes. Stock should be just as it implies stock ie no mods. If you have more than 3 mods you go into the mod class no questions asked. I think we all can tell a race car. All you guys that have been to the Carlisle show know my 78 Cruisin Wagon is pure stock. LOL
                 Dennis
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: phils toys on January 05, 2008, 11:01:22 PM
boss2300
 :hypno:  ???  i thought it was a   :fastcar: race car by the big blue oval 
 phils toys
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: 78pinto on January 08, 2008, 10:38:39 PM
i'm in the stock class right?
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: Pintony on January 09, 2008, 01:12:26 AM
i'm in the stock class right?

 When you get some class we will LYK!!! ;D


Can't wait to see your ride!!!!
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: NoForKin on January 09, 2008, 04:11:06 PM
   Hey All,
              Guess my pinto is not stock then, just kidding im just hoping for some good weather and lots of pinto's ill be registering my 71 this week .....also im looking 4 a grill for my 71 .

                       NoForKin 
              1971 364 ci. 550 hp. 10.27@ 131.50 mph qtr mile














 
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: 77turbopinto on January 09, 2008, 04:34:13 PM
You can still park with the stocks and modifieds if you want, that would be kool. If you want to park with the other racecars, you can park your butt under the tent with us anyway.

BTW: Did you ever find a DYNO that that car will fit on?


Bill
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: pintoman on January 11, 2008, 05:58:01 PM
Hi y'all.When i set up the classes at Carlisle ,while working with them.They did not offer more than the two classes.I for one did not have any problems with Brians car in the modified class and I did not hear anyone complain.But thats OK,so lets just move on.So is my Rallye a modified or race car,seeing that I also autocross and do some drag racing.Just want to know.I hope to make Carlisle this year,I am trying to get a new driveway put in,just trying to figure out finances.
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: r4pinto on January 11, 2008, 06:35:51 PM
Just got the hotel reservations made. It'll be me & my dad in the little old Pinto. It'll be the first time in about 17 years he's been in one. Hopefully mine won't end up like that one, dead being towed.
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: phils toys on January 11, 2008, 08:33:23 PM
Harley,
when i registered i was only given the option of stock or modified  race was was not an option. also i would think yours would be modified but i did not or have not see a list for race specifications . I also was not aware of any classification problems last year.but there seams to have been. anyway hope to see you there.
phils toys
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: 77turbopinto on January 12, 2008, 09:28:47 AM
Harley,
when i registered i was only given the option of stock or modified  race was was not an option....

Did you call or do it online?

Hi y'all.When i set up the classes at Carlisle ,while working with them.They did not offer more than the two classes....

If you click on this link you will see where the 2008 Carlisle registration form for the All Ford Show has 6 different classes. Pintos would only fit into 3 of them.

http://store.carlisleevents.com/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=CE&Product_Code=2008-028&Category_Code=CANC

Type:   
      Stock (3 or less modifications) 
      Modified (4+ modifications) 
      Pro-Street/Race (Tubs, Induction thru Hood, Roll Cage, etc) 
      Street Rod (Pre 1949) 
  Truck:   
       2-WD
       4-WD


As the event coordinator last year I can say there were many questions asked about ALL classes. I would hope that any future event chair (for any show) would not have to deal with this issue again.

Please keep this in mind: there are members here (and other Pinto owners too) that take this, or any competition VERY seriously, and others that don't. In all fairness to those that 'do', I believe we all should enter our cars in the appropriate class. If someone is unsure of what class they should be in they should contact Carlisle Events directly.

I just want everyone that goes there to have a great time.

Bill
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: phils toys on January 12, 2008, 09:47:17 PM
Bill,
as i stated i did not see this when i registered
Type:   
      Stock (3 or less modifications) 
      Modified (4+ modifications) 
      Pro-Street/Race (Tubs, Induction thru Hood, Roll Cage, etc) 
      Street Rod (Pre 1949) 
  Truck:   
       2-WD
       4-WD

As the event coordinator last year I can say there were many questions asked about ALL classes. I would hope that any future event chair (for any show) would not have to deal with this issue again.
 thanks for the info and fielding all the  questions from the past and i am sure there will be a few more before the show this year.
i also want everyone to have a great time.
phil

Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: Pintony on January 12, 2008, 10:25:48 PM
If you click on this link you will see where the 2008 Carlisle registration form for the All Ford Show has 6 different classes. Pintos would only fit into 3 of them.
Type:   
      Stock (3 or less modifications) 
      Modified (4+ modifications) 
      Pro-Street/Race (Tubs, Induction thru Hood, Roll Cage, etc) 
      Street Rod (Pre 1949) 
  Truck:   
       2-WD
       4-WD


Hey Bill,
 What if you had a Pincherto??? ;D
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: 77turbopinto on January 13, 2008, 12:27:02 AM
Don't think I never thought of that.

CT has always considered El Camino's and Rancheros to be cars.


Bill
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: 78pinto on January 13, 2008, 02:18:18 PM
what hotel is evryone staying at.....i'll see if i can get a room there also.
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: r4pinto on January 13, 2008, 03:29:54 PM
I'm staying at the Laquinta at Harrisburg, close to the Harrisburg Airport. They still have rooms available & through priceline I got a room for $52 a night for two people. The motel 6 a few minutes away from the Carlisle fairgrounds was all booked when I checked a few days ago.
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: Pintony on January 24, 2008, 09:38:54 AM
Who is hosting Carlisle in 2008???
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: 77turbopinto on January 24, 2008, 09:41:14 AM
You!



Bill
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: Pintony on January 24, 2008, 10:04:45 AM
You!



Bill

 NOT LIKELY!!!
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: 77turbopinto on January 24, 2008, 10:13:53 AM
I was planning to 'run' this event for PCCA if needed. If someone else want to, I will help them.


Bill
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: NoForKin on January 27, 2008, 11:30:23 AM
hey all,
              when i registered for carlisle last year i was told to say i was with PCCA ,,cause if we got so many people the tent would be free and was given the option of stock or mod,,,  mine is as far from stock as u can get.  if i offened any 1 with my car im sorry,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, i just wanted 2 have fun and check out some other pintos.




                                               NoForKin
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: 77turbopinto on January 27, 2008, 11:46:59 AM
Brian,

  I blame Carlisle for not having all the information out there in years past. I hope you come join us again this year, and like I said, please park with us if you choose, but hang-out with us reguardless.


Bill
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: dga57 on January 27, 2008, 08:44:21 PM
Hi all!

I'm hoping to meet some of you face to face at Carlisle in June :).  Seriously doubt that I'll have my Pinto all done by then, but you never know.  A lot depends on the weather between now and then... it's just too cold to work on it now!  If I'm able to arrange to be there for the entire event, I may register one of my '79 Lincolns instead since neither of them would require any work before showing.

Actually, because the timing of the Carlisle Ford Nationals is pretty close to that of another event (non-automotive) that I'm planning to attend in Dallas, TX,  my intention at the moment is to make Carlisle a day trip on Saturday, rest up :sleep: at home on Sunday, and start the drive :fastcar: to Texas on Monday.  The only way I could register a car and stay for the entire event would be if the Dallas trip falls through for some reason :(.  I won't know anything on that until later.  Last minute accomodations wouldn't be a problem since my daughter lives in Mechanicsburg; about halfway between Carlisle and Hershey.  She'll put me up if I can't find a room.

So... while the details are still unclear, I DO plan to at least put in an appearance and will be looking forward to meeting whoever's there.

Dwayne
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: 77turbopinto on March 07, 2008, 12:13:32 PM
Less than 3 months to go!!



Bill
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: pintoman on March 07, 2008, 04:57:28 PM
I'll be there,but the Rallye won't.Still have not fixed the tyranny problem.
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: dga57 on March 08, 2008, 03:32:58 PM
Was beginning to think this might be a dead topic.  I'm looking forward to meeting you guys in Carlisle!
Dwayne :smile:
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: 77turbopinto on March 08, 2008, 04:49:02 PM
I'll be there,but the Rallye won't.Still have not fixed the tyranny problem.

Tranny?

Do you need a 4spd or a 5spd?

I will send you one if it will help you get to Carlisle.


Bill
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: pintoman on March 09, 2008, 11:57:46 AM
I have a trans.No time to work on it.I am redoing a friends Pinto this year.Plus waiting for the 20 inch's of snow to disappear.But i will be there anyway.
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: Pintony on March 09, 2008, 01:27:57 PM
I have a trans.No time to work on it.I am redoing a friends Pinto this year.Plus waiting for the 20 inch's of snow to disappear.But i will be there anyway.

NO!!!... Harley is too buisy cruzing around in that new STANG!!!! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: pintoman on March 09, 2008, 03:43:13 PM
No the Stang is buried under 20 inch's of snow.The Pinto that i am working on belongs to a member of the local Ford club.He does not have the money to redo it himself.So a bunch of us are redoing the body.Because of this i have put the Rallye and my cruising wagon on the back burner for now.
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: NoForKin on March 11, 2008, 02:21:53 PM
  Dam , broke a rocker arm 29 needle bearings in my 15000$ motor,,,,, ripped out the motor last nite ,going to tear it down soon....... we will see but it dosnt look good at this time if i will make it to carlisle.


                  NoForKin  :(
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: r4pinto on March 21, 2008, 04:10:03 PM
The hotel room has long since been paid for, and hopefully I'll be working on getting the tranny swapped and the gas tank flushed to keep from having a repeat of 2006.
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: 77turbopinto on March 25, 2008, 11:53:07 AM
OK folks, getting down to the wire....

I have to put some stuff together for the event staff; I need a good idea of how many of our members will be attending this year, so PLEASE post here if you are planning to go.

As always, we need 25 PRE-REGISTERED before May 19 to get the tent for free. BTW: The tent price has gone up this year.

Again, please indicate: "Pinto Car Club of America" on your registration (not "PCCA").

This year Carlisle is having a "Club Banner Competition". This is the first year for it, and this is the first year that banners are mandatory.

Thank you,
Bill
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: phils toys on March 25, 2008, 01:07:35 PM
All set.  1 bobcat will be there.  I have something for the goody bags.
Last year  when i checked  as to how i was registered   PCCA, or FordPinto.com  were the same for them. maybe that has changed  for this year.
Phils toys
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: pintoman on March 30, 2008, 10:15:19 AM
I have registered for Carlisle .If every thing goes OK the Rallye will be there.
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: Norman Bagi on April 03, 2008, 09:17:41 PM
Count me in, Hotel is paid for, and the tank is full..

Bill let me know if we need to pitch in for the tent and or banner.

And how much?

Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: NoForKin on April 04, 2008, 03:11:33 PM
Bill
     Im going to register for carlisle now so i dont get into a big mess what should my car be registered as mod /// race??? pcca????
   NoForKin :2fast4u:
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: 77turbopinto on April 04, 2008, 03:23:47 PM
According to the Carlisle registration form it seems that they would consider it a racecar.

From what I understand, all the racecars are parked together and judged as one class.

Please note that just because you register it as a 'racecar' you can still park with us, you just won't be in the trophy competition with the stocks and modifieds. (I say this because on the club form it asks how many 'non-class' cars will be parking with the '2 Pinto classes'. I will put '2' on the form just in case)


Bill
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: NoForKin on April 04, 2008, 03:28:18 PM
ok thanks im calling carlisle now then


             NoForkin
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: 77turbopinto on April 04, 2008, 03:39:31 PM
Please mention "Pinto Car Club of America".


Bill
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: NoForKin on April 04, 2008, 03:43:22 PM
ok im registered,
                   i said i was with pcca
                                           now race is just 4 the show field not 4 saturday judging  right?
 

           NoForkin
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: 77turbopinto on April 04, 2008, 03:45:38 PM
All the different judged classes are in the show field.

Bill
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: r4pinto on April 06, 2008, 08:34:45 PM
I will be there. I am getting back to work on the Pinto tomorrow after work. Gotta fix an oil leak, get ready for a tranny swap, and drop the gas tank. I got very little time so I'm gonna be working on her alot.
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: 77turbopinto on April 10, 2008, 10:23:59 AM
Thanks for all the updates.


I have a lot of stuff to bring and do like last year, so I will ask to leave the two spots next to the tent for Connie and I to park. We had to move the rows last year to do that, but it seemed to work out after we figured it all out. (BTW: I asked Carlisle staff about switching the rows and doubling up before I did it and they said OK)

I don't know if Carlisle will make the same mistake this year and not give us enough spots, but I will be in contact with them about that.


Bill
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: NoForKin on April 13, 2008, 08:01:32 AM
Bill,
              do you kow if carlisle is putting us up on the hill again and if they are can they put us down on the field????up on the hill sucked if you ask me it was toooooo far from every 1 else.
             
                        NoForKin
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: 77turbopinto on April 13, 2008, 12:07:46 PM
I don't know where we will be, and probably won't ahead of time. The seem to move things around every time; maybe based on how many classes, cars in classes and how many club tents there will be. I have noticed that the tents tend to be on the more level areas and I think thats a big plus, even if we are farther away.


Bill
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: ADaughen on April 17, 2008, 03:28:16 PM
All Ford Nat's is an awesome time.  You NEED to go if you're in the area. 


I'm not sure I'll be able to make it out this year.  I'm back in school and that is a week prior to finals.  And my '78 is getting further and further from being complete.   :(


Harley, unless you have a roll cage and tubs, etc I'd say yours is a Modified.  What class do you run in AutoX?

I wish there was a way to just put "N/A" in the class field if you weren't going to the event to get judged.  It sounds like it would make it easier for some of you guys.  ;)
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: pintoman on April 17, 2008, 07:16:21 PM
Hey Adam,hows it going.Just got the tranny back in with a high performance clutch.Need to get fluid in it and figure out the speedo cable install.The tranny is a T-9 from a xr4ti.No i do not have a roll cage,but modified class is just fine.The Rallye runs in the c/m class in the local auto-x.Hope to see you and every one else at Carlisle.
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: ADaughen on April 17, 2008, 07:59:32 PM
C-Modified...  I am suprised you aren't running in Street Mod class.  "Any engine by the same manufacturer ruling" 

Are you competitive?


Wife says she'll come along if I can get the days off.   ;D
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: pintopaul2003 on April 20, 2008, 05:13:40 PM
hello all hope to see all in carlisle for the all ford would love to bring one of the pinto's but either not done or just to far, but we will be there and plan to stop and say hello to all , my wife said we can go as long as i dont buy another(any one have a 79 or 80 for sale) see ya all there . Pintopaul and family
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: pintoman on April 21, 2008, 06:17:46 PM
Hey Adam.I do not know  what SCCA uses.But the local car club i belong to uses a modified system of the SCCA.So i am in competition modified.As for being competitive,I win every time.Maybe it is because that I am the only one in my class.Hope to see you and your wife at Carlisle.
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: ADaughen on April 21, 2008, 08:04:02 PM
Hey Adam.I do not know  what SCCA uses.But the local car club i belong to uses a modified system of the SCCA.So i am in competition modified.As for being competitive,I win every time.Maybe it is because that I am the only one in my class.Hope to see you and your wife at Carlisle.


I see.  C-Mod looked like a tough group with franken-cars running in it around here.  LSx powered RX-7s, 5.0L Miatas, etc.

I got the bed and breakfast arranged (granparents).  I just have to put in my time off request at work.  *crosses fingers*
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: r4pinto on April 21, 2008, 08:21:30 PM
Hey Adam, I take it you're in SCCA? Which region you belong to? I got an 85 GLH Turbo I plan to race SCCA if I ever get it running right. I was in OVR, bu tneed to renew my membership.
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: 77turbopinto on April 22, 2008, 06:08:32 AM
Please keep this thread Carlisle related.

Thanks.


Bill
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: r4pinto on April 22, 2008, 09:37:18 PM
There any idea how many are going to Carlisle in June? I'm getting preregistered a week from Friday.
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: ADaughen on April 23, 2008, 10:16:42 AM
Please keep this thread Carlisle related.

Thanks.


Bill

Sorry Bill. 

r4, I'll PM you.
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: 77turbopinto on April 26, 2008, 08:20:35 AM
Please let me know if there any of my items listed in the for sale section that you (anyone) would like me to bring. I will do my best, but we have a limited amount of room. Larger items would need to be paid for in advance.

PM me for details.

Partail list:

C/W harness
Mustang II rallye rim
wagon hatch glass
wagon hinge cover, black, repaired
2.0-2.3 dowel pins
Pinto steel rallye wheel set
Late 77 and Newer Black Rear Seat Lowers
NOS Orange Plaid Seat Cloth



Bill
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: NoForKin on April 26, 2008, 04:34:12 PM
Bill
    Do you have a mint grill for my 71???

              NoForKin
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: 77turbopinto on April 26, 2008, 04:44:40 PM
Sorry no.

99.9999% of my Pinto parts are for 77-78 cars.

Bill
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: NoForKin on April 27, 2008, 06:10:50 AM
No problem just thought id ask,,,, thanks anyway
            NoForkin
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: Norman Bagi on April 28, 2008, 07:33:59 PM

Bill,
Do we need to pitch in for the tent, refreshments, etc?
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: r4pinto on May 02, 2008, 01:25:38 PM
Got the car registered today. That'll be motivation to get the tranny pulled, bottom end rebuilt, gas tank dropped & brakes fixed before then. .

Yes, I registered under Pinto Car Club of America.
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: ADaughen on May 10, 2008, 06:35:16 AM
I got the time off work...
I got the room at Grandma's booked...
I got jury summons that week.    :wow:
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: 77turbopinto on May 10, 2008, 06:58:50 AM
It is common for people to reschedule their jury duty by telling the court that they have a vacation planned. You might need to provide some documantation, but it sould not be an issue.


Bill
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: 77turbopinto on May 11, 2008, 08:36:51 AM
We have less than a week to go for having PRE-registered cars help pay for our tent; if you plan to pre-register please do it soon.

Thank you.


Bill
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: NoForKin on May 11, 2008, 12:53:11 PM
Bill ,
 How many do we have so far??????
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: 77turbopinto on May 11, 2008, 02:25:55 PM
Brian: I think we have somewhere between 5 to10. Last year we only had about 10 pre-registered, but 16 Pintos were at the show.

Norm: I paid for the tent again this year, and if we don't get the 25 I hope that people will help out like in the past, but will not be obligated to do so. If someone wants to bring drinks/food for the tent that would be great. I am going to see what I can do too.



Is the banner on it's way?


Bill
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: r4pinto on May 11, 2008, 03:39:33 PM
As I already mentioned I am preregistered, but have gotta get my butt in gear if the car is going to make it. I'm talking working on the car practically non-stop just to get the car  driveable. I really don't want to drive her to Carlisle untested, but if I have to then I will.
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: ADaughen on May 11, 2008, 04:33:23 PM
As I already mentioned I am preregistered, but have gotta get my butt in gear if the car is going to make it. I'm talking working on the car practically non-stop just to get the car  driveable. I really don't want to drive her to Carlisle untested, but if I have to then I will.


That's what AAA is for, right?   ;)

Just remember, one step at a time and important stuff first.  It gets done a lot faster that way.

See you in Carlisle.
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: r4pinto on May 11, 2008, 06:21:16 PM
Well, in 2006 I had to use AAA to get home. Was 130 miles outside Columbus when the car shut down on the freeway, and in pouring rain too. That's why  I plan on driving to get the wheels from you.
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: Boss2300 on May 11, 2008, 08:52:30 PM
Hi Guys,
         I finally signed up for Carlisle. I can't do it to early cause of family health reasons. I will not be bringing the cruisin wagon this year. I did put down PCCA as club to help out the club. I will stop around to see all the fine PCCA members & check out the improvements of your rides.
             Dennis
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: r4pinto on May 18, 2008, 05:46:36 PM
Three weeks until Carlisle. I'm getting excited, and nervous since Harrold II is still in shambles. I might not be there with the Pinto, but will be there anyways. She just doesn't want to cooperate with me.
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: 77turbopinto on May 20, 2008, 08:14:10 PM
Matt,

Remember its about the people, not the cars; see YOU there.



Is there anyone from here that is going that is renting a swap spot?

I have some stuff I might bring if I can hook up with them.


Bill
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: pintopaul2003 on May 26, 2008, 06:49:33 PM
what can i pitch in? we still have plans on going ,if there is some thing i can do to help we will be there late thursday.pleas e email me at pintopaul@verizon.net or when i'm there call my cell 518 524 3029 thanks paul
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: pintopaul2003 on May 26, 2008, 06:51:45 PM
almost forgot are there going to be t-shirts and stuff there to buy from the club?
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: Pinto1600 on May 27, 2008, 01:46:58 PM
A little over a week to go! looking forward to seeing you all again,I'll be bringing a new ride this year,see you all real soon!
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: r4pinto on May 27, 2008, 02:41:45 PM
Looking forward to it. The car will be there. I just have the tranny swap & bottom end work left for the car to be functional. The rest is cosmetic & will probably be done as well.
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: Norman Bagi on May 28, 2008, 09:49:40 PM
 :lol:  One week to go!!!   :lol:
 :happy_bday:  My 77 turns 31 on June 2nd,   :happy_bday: 

See you all next week!
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: p84 on May 29, 2008, 03:51:06 PM
Where do I regester for carlile. I've been very busy and out of touch with the web site, but I'll be there with my 78.

P84 :fastcar:
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: pintoman on May 29, 2008, 05:57:26 PM
Go to carsatcarlisle .com You will find the answer there.
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: fordraceman15 on May 29, 2008, 10:21:46 PM
Hi 77 turbopinto

I will have two spots at carlisle, with pinto parts for sale.
Row J 169-170 same spots as last year, out side building T
I don't know if i will bring the pinto.
Thanks John
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: 77turbopinto on May 30, 2008, 06:35:23 AM
Thank you John.


Here is an updated list of what I MIGHT bring. I say might because I need to see how much room I have. IF someone tells me they want one of these items I will do my best to get it there:

Mustang II rallye rim 13"x5.5"
wagon hatch glass
wagon hinge cover, black, repaired
2.0-2.3 stepped dowel pins
C4 2.0 Bell housing
Late 77 and Newer Black Rear Seat Lowers
NOS Orange Plaid Seat Cloth
All glass hatch Pinto decals


I will update this list in THIS POST if I find any other parts. If I list a part please let me know if you want me to bring it.

Bill
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: ADaughen on May 30, 2008, 08:41:00 AM
It is common for people to reschedule their jury duty by telling the court that they have a vacation planned. You might need to provide some documantation, but it sould not be an issue.


Bill


Phew, there was a spot on the website to put "out of town".

Next available time was Novemeber... here's hoping I'm a full time student then.  ;)
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: phils toys on May 30, 2008, 10:40:00 AM
1 week and counting  down.
 :fastcar:
See you all there.
Phil
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: Scott Hamilton on June 01, 2008, 09:17:26 PM
Hey Guys! I have everything planned for the Meet-- I'll be there!!

My wife & I are flying in to DC on the 6th, renting a car and driving up to the meet... I anticipate getting to the meet sometime in the afternoon of the 6th. We will be leaving on Monday morning so we have the entire weekend to 'play'.

We are staying at the Comfort INN Capital City in Mechanicsburg. ..

Looking forward to seeing Bill, Harley & everyone--

If there is anything you guys need me to do, let me know!
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: phils toys on June 01, 2008, 09:28:39 PM
Welcome , Scott
It will be a pleasure to finaly meet you and the family.
Phils toys.
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: r4pinto on June 01, 2008, 09:45:26 PM
Looking forward to meeting you & your family Scott. It's gonna be a fun one, and unless any more problems happen you & the rest will see my car. Had to order a flexplate or she'd be roadworthy tomorrow. Now it's delayed a day.
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: dga57 on June 01, 2008, 11:29:03 PM
WOW :amazed:
The events over the next couple weekends will be my first Pinto meets ever and it looks like I'll get to meet our esteemed leader, Scott Hamilton, not only in Carlisle, but Tulsa also!  Gee, I wish I had my car ready to participate!  Maybe next year!  I'm even more excited now than I was before!  I have a terrible sense of direction but I'm sure I'll find the PCCA group, wherever you end up being located.  I'll be wearing a Pinto cap, Pinto T-Shirt and Pinto belt buckle... fairly easy to spot... so if you see me wandering around looking lost, feel free to pull me in. :lol:
Dwayne :smile:
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: pintoman on June 02, 2008, 05:43:24 PM
Welcome Scott,It will be nice to see you again.
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: 77turbopinto on June 03, 2008, 07:05:57 AM
http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/USPA0234?from=search_10day
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: NoForKin on June 03, 2008, 11:50:22 AM
Scott
  whats the chance of you bringing  a pcca sticker for me   ???
                thanks,,,
                                NoForkin
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: pintoman on June 03, 2008, 05:35:43 PM
Hey Scott,when you get to DC,make sure you rent a Ford.Then when you get to the fair grounds get it registered for the show.This way you can park inside the fair grounds and not park outside and pay a parking fee and then a admission fee.
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: 77turbopinto on June 03, 2008, 08:53:21 PM
Harley, great minds think alike; I told him the same thing....


Bill
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: phils toys on June 04, 2008, 01:52:44 AM
What time /day is everyone arriving maybe  we can meet for breakfast  on friday
I will be ariving thursday before 4:00 pm
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: ADaughen on June 04, 2008, 08:58:46 AM
What time /day is everyone arriving maybe  we can meet for breakfast  on friday
I will be ariving thursday before 4:00 pm

I'm getting there late Friday.  The wife and I couldn't get a full day off work.   :(

When/where are people meeting up Saturday morning for breakfast?   ;D
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: NoForKin on June 04, 2008, 12:46:37 PM
my new girl friend and i will be here thursday evening


Phil how about waffle house 9 am friday?
            NoForkin
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: r4pinto on June 04, 2008, 12:49:08 PM
I will be arriving there on Friday afternoon. I could have gotten Thursday off, but my Dad, aka "the bank" could not.
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: r4pinto on June 04, 2008, 02:32:15 PM
I'll be there without the Pinto. I was unbolting the transmission mount from the old transmission so I could bolt it to the replacement transmission, and the mount ripped clean in two. Unless a miracle happens & I can get a mount for it no later than tomorrow the car will not be going.
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: NoForKin on June 04, 2008, 04:47:12 PM
oooo 1 more day 2 go
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: pintoman on June 04, 2008, 05:46:46 PM
I leave early tomorrow morning.We can all meet somewhere outside the grounds or we could meet under the grand stand for breakfast.They have some real good food there,with some long tables to set at.
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: ADaughen on June 05, 2008, 12:19:24 PM
I'll be there without the Pinto. I was unbolting the transmission mount from the old transmission so I could bolt it to the replacement transmission, and the mount ripped clean in two. Unless a miracle happens & I can get a mount for it no later than tomorrow the car will not be going.


That is no good.

If I could have found mine, I'd let you borrow it.  :(

I have one for a '87 TBird...
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: NoForKin on June 05, 2008, 03:12:41 PM
And away we GO  hope every1 has a safe trip see you all soon
     

             NoForkin
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: 77turbopinto on June 08, 2008, 07:04:30 PM
Just got home safe and sound; we hope all others do too.

It was an AMAZING EVENT.  BIG THINGS in the works!!


Thank you all for your support.


Bill
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: r4pinto on June 08, 2008, 07:16:19 PM
Dad & I got home about 20 minutes ago. We both had lots of fun, and if my ankles & feet weren't swollen last night & today I woulda had more fun.
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: crossy on June 08, 2008, 07:17:56 PM
 thanx for th help. it was good to meet GOOD people. ran it up to Atco this morning to the musclecar / fastest street car meet and it's neat to hear peoples comments and see their smiles while they are pointing. . I would have run it down the track, but it would have removed everyones smiles waiting so long for it to get to the other end:-) , crossy
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: dga57 on June 08, 2008, 10:07:23 PM
Hi all!
Sorry I didn't get a chance to really visit with anyone much at Carlisle.  By the time I made it to the PCCA area (many many thanks to Connie and her beautiful orange and white Pinto for the lift - I'm not sure we would have made it otherwise) there were few folks in the tent and the people around the cars all seemed pretty well occupied.  It was truly gratifying to see so many nice Pintos.  Other than my own, I haven't really seen one up close and in person for years!  I think it instilled some faith in my son, Cody, that my Pinto might actually turn out to be something special after all... just like I've been telling him all along!
The heat, as all of you know, was blistering, and was starting to take its toll on my buddy Charlie who is 71 years old.  Then too, I have a problem with my right foot that was aggravated by all the walking.  We migrated from the PCCA site to the picnic area nearby, and found a shady spot to rest.  I had intended to make my way back up to the Pintos before I left but it just didn't happen... I had a dinner date scheduled with my oldest daughter (she lives in Mechanicsburg) and had to get going. 
I'm going to aim toward getting my Pinto up there next year and fully participating in all the fun.  Thanks, guys, for keeping those ponies running!
Dwayne :smile:
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: Pinto1600 on June 10, 2008, 01:42:26 PM
Afternoon all! This the first chance i've had to post since getting home very late Sunday night. It was great to see all of you again,wish it could be more often than once a year. Thanks to everybody who oversaw the event and to all who provided prizes/surprises(Harley). I would like to thank EVERBODY who voted for my car. And to all the folks who thought my car was good enough to tell Mr. Miller it was the nicest Pinto there,even over the own cars. THANKS so much again,I can't say enough about this group of people and their cars! I'll see all again next year at Carlisle,it can't get here soon enough!
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: r4pinto on June 10, 2008, 02:39:24 PM
It was nice to meet you this past weekend. I agree it's a shame the meet is only once a year, but atleast we have fun when it goes on. I wasn't there when Mr Miller was around, but everyone is right, that car is one of the nicest one, if not the nicest one there.
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: p84 on June 10, 2008, 03:31:51 PM
Just wanted to say THANKS FOR EVERYTHING to all that were involved at the Pinto tent. My wife and I had a great time (dispite the heat ). It was very nice meeting everyone and talking pinto stuff with everyone. Its amazing how much you don't know when you talk to someone who does. I learned allot this weekend. Can't wait to do it again with the group. Next time, I'll be there on Fri and stay till Sun. It was so great to see all the extremely well done pintos. What inspiration I gained to do the next one. Now, just hide some more money from my wife, and start the next one !!!!! Just kidding, the next one is hers !  Thanks Steph, for the great picts. Hope everyone is OK after the heat and long rides home. God Bless and hope to see you all again soon.
  Byron and Kathy Miller                                       :fastcar:
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: pintopaul2003 on June 10, 2008, 08:48:46 PM
GREAT SHOW  had a great time while we were their ,wife and kids enjoyed also . the heat was unbearable for our little guy or i would have stayed alittle later on Saturday, we had other problems and had to leave early . It was great meeting everyone .glad to finally put faces with car talk. I do see you must have you car there to even get a picture (just kidding) just makes me want to leave the wife and kids at home next time and bring the car. Hey Phil did your head ever stop swelling?  Wait hope to have my green 14000 original pinto there next to give Phil some competition  ;) very glad to meet all hope to see everyone next year.
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: postalpony on June 10, 2008, 10:21:09 PM
Hello all Pinto friends,or is that fiends?

First & foremost I would like to thank Bill, Connie, Brian, & anyone else that helped
me in my moment of weakness. It is people like you that make this world worth
staying in. My friend Ken Liff co-piloted Postalpony half way across Maryland, then
the fun began---The old man took over & let the string out, we had fun with the fast movers, as
they did double takes at this upstart Pinto  There was this 50mph long sweeper that
we entered above 75mph I just set the car & let it run,we came out the side,& Ken
made the comment --"This is like a slot car on a rail, no body roll at all."  Ken wheels
a very nice '88 turbo coupe he bought new that now has 250,000 miles & it still kicks it!
I have rested up after I got home & I feel fine.   Again thanks for your concern & all
the attention, I won't forget!!

                                 Dick Mathias        Postalpony
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: r4pinto on June 10, 2008, 10:50:44 PM
Dick,

glad to hear you're doing well after Carlisle. Glad to have seen you again at the show.
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: 77turbopinto on June 11, 2008, 09:05:19 AM
Dick,

We were glad to see you vertical again on Sunday, and to hear that you are well again.

Sincerely,
Bill and Connie
Title: Re: Carlisle 2008
Post by: Creamsicle on June 12, 2008, 12:52:44 PM
Dick,
I'm glad you are feeling better and that I could help.  You gave us a bit of a scare.  The best part was driving back from the UFO tent.  I got caught behind the honey wagon and was stopped in the mustang section for about 10 or 15 minutes.  It was poetic justice that after they all gave me the hairy eyeball, a Pinto turned out to be the president's celebrity pick. 

It sounds like your ride home was more fun than ours.  We hit some rain and tried to conserve fuel. 

Until next year.....
Connie