Author Topic: Project Shur'tug'al [AKA 75 Pinto street toy] (Read 31363 times)

hellfirejim · « **Reply #240 on:** September 07, 2009, 11:53:01 AM »

Well someday i will learn to leave well enough alone. :embarassed: The actual dash lights were not working so i pulled the instrument cluster and the white part just feel apart. Yeah i need one, I put in a request in the parts wanted.

As for the other deal it fell through so no matter I just wait till spring and the income tax check.
jim

cossiepinto · « **Reply #241 on:** September 09, 2009, 09:06:35 PM »

Just want to say I feel your pain. Twists and turns and changes are all part of the game, when restoring/modifying one of these things.

Thanks for the nice comments/encouragement on my Cosworth Pinto, too! I've been following your project, as well as popbumper's.

Paul

hellfirejim · « **Reply #242 on:** September 10, 2009, 01:05:06 PM »

yeah if you have been following then you know it has not been a trip down the yellow brick road.... :lol:

I enjoy reading about other peoples cars and what they are doing and I especially enjoy the unusual stuff. Though I have the greatest respect for thoses that restore their cars, it is not for me. I need to make it mine and the way I want it. Looking at the 4.6 swap into a Pinto and the Cobra independent rear that grumpy is doing. Imagine the two of those together in one car:hypno:

jim

smallfryefarm · « **Reply #243 on:** September 10, 2009, 01:43:49 PM »

Jim i am with you on that i like to watch every ones projects see how they are progressing and get new ideas. And i like the 4.6 and really like the independant rear.
I watch them go thru the highs and also the lows which believe me i have experianced full spectrum of very high to snake belly low. But its all fun lots of fun. Dont give up on yours yet still alot of good weather before winter. Theirs always something to tinker with.

popbumper · « **Reply #244 on:** September 10, 2009, 02:39:40 PM »

Not to diverge, but that is what I enjoy about the folks here - we're all different in the way we do things, and all appreciate what the other guy is doing.

I am like Jim - I really dig the mods guys do - which is way beyond my capability level. I am also just the opposite of Jim - I can't stand to NOT restore my car, which is why it is taking so long to get done. The hardest part of restoration is the "wait" $:-\$ - I can't drive it until I have all of the work done, and I really miss out; it gets depressing sometimes, but I still forge on to the goal.

I have lots of pics to share soon; right now my dash is out, heater box is open, and steering wheel is on the floor (I have another steering shaft I am restoring on the side). I bought a new inner fender, and it will be grafted in by a local HIgh School metal shop this fall (mine is BADLY corroded). Lots and lots of work, but it will be like new when done.

Chris

cossiepinto · « **Reply #245 on:** September 10, 2009, 09:24:48 PM »

I like all the projects going on here. Sometimes I can't believe the patience some of you have, then I look at my project, started in 1988, put away, restarted, done over, put away, and restarted again. I even built an extra two-car garage, just to have somewhere to keep this lump out of the weather! (Did I tell you my wife is a saint?)

When I'm finally done with the Cosworth Pinto, I'm going to have a "garage sale". I have stuff in the attic, waiting to go back on the Pinto, that I've not seen in years. I have personally dismantled at least five Pintos and a Bobcat, saving what I need and putting much of the rest aside "just in case".

I have an old Craftsman toolbox full of the little nit-noy thingies someone may really need to complete their project/restoration, and I'd be happy to send it on for the cost of freight.

I also have a whole box full of tail light assemblies. None of them were "good enough" or the right model, so here they sit. Like I said, there's going to be a garage sale/giveaway someday.

Paul (Cossie Pinto)

hellfirejim · « **Reply #246 on:** September 11, 2009, 06:27:33 AM »

Quote from: smallfryefarm on September 10, 2009, 01:43:49 PM

Jim i am with you on that i like to watch every ones projects see how they are progressing and get new ideas. And i like the 4.6 and really like the independant rear.
I watch them go thru the highs and also the lows which believe me i have experianced full spectrum of very high to snake belly low. But its all fun lots of fun. Dont give up on yours yet still alot of good weather before winter. Theirs always something to tinker with.

Yes there is some time but I have more time than money. Right now I am redoing my instrument cluster as the white plastic crumbled. Other than that I got my aluminum bumpers and I am going to try to see if I can get them from chrome to a brushed aluminum look.

Give up?

I doubt it, if she hasn't driven me away by now It just ain't going to happen. I can't wait till my income tax check next february, have I got plans to finish the mechanicals. :smile:
jim

hellfirejim · « **Reply #247 on:** September 11, 2009, 06:33:56 AM »

Quote from: popbumper on September 10, 2009, 02:39:40 PM

Not to diverge, but that is what I enjoy about the folks here - we're all different in the way we do things, and all appreciate what the other guy is doing.

I am like Jim - I really dig the mods guys do - which is way beyond my capability level. I am also just the opposite of Jim - I can't stand to NOT restore my car, which is why it is taking so long to get done. The hardest part of restoration is the "wait" $:-\$ - I can't drive it until I have all of the work done, and I really miss out; it gets depressing sometimes, but I still forge on to the goal.

I have lots of pics to share soon; right now my dash is out, heater box is open, and steering wheel is on the floor (I have another steering shaft I am restoring on the side). I bought a new inner fender, and it will be grafted in by a local HIgh School metal shop this fall (mine is BADLY corroded). Lots and lots of work, but it will be like new when done.

Chris

That is one of the benefits of modifying it. When I finally got it up and running it made such an improvment in my atitude about working on the car. My wait was close to two years but it has been worth the wait as it is just so much fun to drive and will be even more fun when I get the next set of goodies this spring.
yeah i too have a corroded right inner panel where the battery was. Actually I have a whole lot of body work to do but that will wait untill 2011 as 2010 will devoted to getting it to be as close to mechanically where I want it.

Like I said before I respect the time and effort it requires to restore one of these little babys but just not my style.

jim

hellfirejim · « **Reply #248 on:** September 11, 2009, 06:37:07 AM »

Quote from: cossiepinto on September 10, 2009, 09:24:48 PM

I like all the projects going on here. Sometimes I can't believe the patience some of you have, then I look at my project, started in 1988, put away, restarted, done over, put away, and restarted again. I even built an extra two-car garage, just to have somewhere to keep this lump out of the weather! (Did I tell you my wife is a saint?)

When I'm finally done with the Cosworth Pinto, I'm going to have a "garage sale". I have stuff in the attic, waiting to go back on the Pinto, that I've not seen in years. I have personally dismantled at least five Pintos and a Bobcat, saving what I need and putting much of the rest aside "just in case".

I have an old Craftsman toolbox full of the little nit-noy thingies someone may really need to complete their project/restoration, and I'd be happy to send it on for the cost of freight.

I also have a whole box full of tail light assemblies. None of them were "good enough" or the right model, so here they sit. Like I said, there's going to be a garage sale/giveaway someday.

Paul (Cossie Pinto)

I have noticed that I am starting accumulate a lot of parts too. :look: I even have enough parts to build another motor that will EFI and turboed [BIG Turbo] but that will go into something else.

i hope everybody remembers to post up the pictures when they are working. I know it can be a hassel but you learn so much more that way.

jim

hellfirejim · « **Reply #249 on:** September 15, 2009, 01:55:52 PM »

Nothing earth shaking, but a decision to go in a different path in regards to my gas tank. I would have to drop the stock tank, replace all the gaskets and seals, replace the sending unit and modify the tank for a return line for my conversion to EFI.

Instead I am getting a 12 gallon fuel cell [factory tank is 13 gal]that already has a sender and foam in the cell and all the fuel out and fuel in place. Once I pull the original gas tank I will cut out the spare tire well and weld in a circular top piece. Then I will attach the tank under the rear floor boards [hangs down about the same as the stock tank] and cut a square in floor for one of those double seal flap doors so when I fill the tank I open the hatch and open the flap and there it is. Keeps the gas out of the hatch area. If it was a sedan car i would have mounted it on the floor in the trunk.

The reasons why i am going this way are fairly simple. All new parts, safer, better match for what I need and for the EFI conversion and eventually my grand daughter will be getting this car and i want it right for her.

jim

smallfryefarm · « **Reply #250 on:** September 15, 2009, 03:01:48 PM »

i know the trunk model makes a difference but i cut a square hole and made a cage and droped my cell thru 7 inches and left 5 inches sticking up that let me have a 20 gallon tank i used the aluminum tank that has a ball valve and a vent and a heavy duty screw on alum cap. it also has a 90 ohm gm sender in it. i would think it would be safe in a hatch car also. I really like being able to pack on the 20 gallons. just sharing.

hellfirejim · « **Reply #251 on:** September 15, 2009, 03:14:46 PM »

Quote from: smallfryefarm on September 15, 2009, 03:01:48 PM

i know the trunk model makes a difference but i cut a square hole and made a cage and droped my cell thru 7 inches and left 5 inches sticking up that let me have a 20 gallon tank i used the aluminum tank that has a ball valve and a vent and a heavy duty screw on alum cap. it also has a 90 ohm gm sender in it. i would think it would be safe in a hatch car also. I really like being able to pack on the 20 gallons. just sharing.

Nice install!!! I would normally have done that but as i said this will eventuaqlly be nm grand daughters car and i wanted to go the extra step for her which means I mount it underneath the car so all gas fumes and such are not in the hatch area.

But that is what makes ford Pinto. COM the special place it is. The open exhange of ideas and why we did what we di on our cars. The our cars is the important part of the sentnence because we all build them the way we want to and that is cool with everybody else on the board.
jim

hellfirejim · « **Reply #252 on:** September 17, 2009, 06:37:21 AM »

Just a quick note, i got my new [to me] instrument cluster in the mail from Bill[thank you sir]. It is a beauty and this weekend it will go in. I als now have an extra bezel and I plan to make some changes in it to see how it looks..
jim

hellfirejim · « **Reply #253 on:** September 26, 2009, 06:00:42 AM »

2 things.

1, got my dash done and will post some pictures as soon as I have time.

2. heading to springville, Il [about 3 hours] to the RT66 mother load road car show event and plan to meet pinto people and take pictures. yes of course i will post them.

Taking the ranger as the Pinto is close but not ready yet for that type of drive.

later

hellfirejim · « **Reply #254 on:** September 27, 2009, 03:51:52 PM »

sorry been a little late on posting this but this is what my dash looked like when i was trying to re-install my instrument cluster. Why?

Because i didn't stop and think. it started with a speedo cable so i just kept taking things apart to get better access until I stopped and thought. I opened the hood and looked at the speedo cable. Since I had changed things around in the engine compartment the speedo cable was rubbinmg so I CLAMPED it to hold it out of the way. Noticed the capitalized word. After I unclamped it was a piece of cake... you would think that after 45 years of this stuff..... :rolleye: Oh well humble pie never hurt anyone. here are the pictures.

this is what it looks like now.

This is the tach i found that better fits my theme of the car.

hellfirejim · « **Reply #255 on:** October 03, 2009, 09:52:38 AM »

Morning, this post is more of a heads up. I am just about to go on vacation for a couple of weeks and part of the trip is to go to my buddy's place in South Carolina where we are going to assyemble a 8" rear. it has a High rib case with a 4:10 gear and new posi traction. Instead of just getting a 5 gallon pail i decided to do it right and get a carrying case to bring the rear center section home. I first ordered a horizontal case from Summit. What a POS. poorly made and didn't fit. I then ordered a vertical case (JAZ) and it is exactly what i need. So save your time and money and order the vertical case.

oh and yes i am really looking forward to my trip...... :lol:

discolives78 · « **Reply #256 on:** October 14, 2009, 09:50:55 PM »

cool tach, Jim! Is that big blue thing a shift light?

:afro:

hellfirejim · « **Reply #257 on:** October 23, 2009, 12:59:01 PM »

Yeah it is a shift light but the neat part is it is movable so you can swing it down and to the right so it does show. It is not the big as the face of the tach is i believe 3 5/8 or something close so the blue light is fairly small and will move so it is hidden. Just better fits the theme of the car and i saw it for $95 i think at summit or jegs.
jim

PS: Just got back from vacation and i have some picturers of the fordmeet i went to. Everything was turboed...grea t fun anf great people. Might be a bit on the pictures but they are coming.

hellfirejim · « **Reply #258 on:** November 15, 2009, 12:37:42 PM »

Well this is my annual fall post. it is that time of the year when i have to put my little pony up on jack stands with a car cover for the winter as i do not have a garage. This year it is interesting as we have gone through a lot of mechanical difficulties and issues but came out with a running car. this also brings me to the point where i am happy and sad at the same time. Sad because i can no longer work or run the car and i will miss her. On the other hand i know that in about 4 months or so i will be able to start collecting all the parts for next year using my income tax refund check.

The goal for next year is simple and that is to complete the mechanical part of this ride. one i want to make it a good driver and two i want to get started on the rest of the car as the mechanical part has taken waaaay too long.

This is the plan:

Engine:
1. I plan to have the head gone over by JD Larramme with a basic port and cleanup, possible bigger valves and a little bit better street cam.
2. I will modify the intake manifold to better work with the EFI that is going on.
3. I will be adding a complete throttle body EFI kit that is complete with custom burned Prom.
4. Along with the EFI I am taking down the stock fuel tank anf it's issues and replacing it with a 12 gal fuel cell complete with sending unit and fittings. Some people would say that is small but the stock tank is only 13 gals so no loss.

Rear:
1. I have all the parts in hand for a 4:10 gear with a new posi in my high srength center section for my 8" rear.

Trans:
1. If that goes well, the I will put in a V8 C-4 with the new bellhousing.

That basically is the end of the mechanicals except that i will be adding 2" dropped spindles with new steel braided brake lines to drop the front a bit.

So if all that works out I am then going to open up the front of the rear wheel well openings so i can put on 29" tires. How wide i don't know just yet, hopefuly about 10"s.

I know it is a lot and that is why i am looking forward to it. here are a couple of pictures of the Pinto ready for the winter's nap.

I also owe you the pictures from the turbo ford meet.
http://s93.photobucket.com/albums/l66/hellfirejim/TurboFord%2009/

Sorry for the length of post but unless somehting comes up You probably won't see another till feb or march.

take care
jim

smallfryefarm · « **Reply #259 on:** November 15, 2009, 02:25:54 PM »

Jim seems seasons go by quick any more youll be back on her before you no it. you still need to hand around here with us though. looking forward to seeing her back on the ground soon.

hellfirejim · « **Reply #260 on:** November 17, 2009, 06:20:29 AM »

Thanks, I do visit at least once a day to see what is up.... Got to get my daily Pinto fix. :lol:

jim

hellfirejim · « **Reply #261 on:** December 20, 2009, 12:25:57 PM »

Well it is almost christmas as i write this. Been one hell of a year for me and my pinto. We both have come a long way. Between engines and transmissions and such blowing up I still managed to get it to the car show in the fall in the town just north of here. All things considered pretty cool. but I have to say the best thing that happened was getting it straight that my granddaughter absolutely loves the Pinto and I am going to leave it to here to carry on. I just couldn't be happier.

As for me I would say the most important part is that i am still here. Can't bitch about that. I also got to meeet a lot of new Pinto people and that was real important also. One final point is that for the first time in 5 years I was not in the hospital recovering from some sort of surgury... :lol:

But most of all I am looking forward to next year. I am going to finish the car off mechanically so I can start on the rest of the car to make it better. My goals are , fuel cell, fuel injection, new ignition, and hopefully a C4 trans to complete the drive train. At that point it will be a sweet reliable daily driver type car that was built to have fun. Oh yeah I almost forgot my posi 4:10 rear center section...

So to all of you working on your cars keep the faith as it has taken 2 years to get to this point with many more to come I am sure. The best part about this is the journey. Meeting all the Pinto people, looking for parts and such is just a lot of fun and helps keep me sane or as close as I get.

So Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. Old school I know but don't forget the reason for the season.

I hope you get all the goodies you have asked for from Santa.

peace,
jim

PS Here is a picture of my baby patentienly waiting till spring to bring the sun, warmth and new parts.

hellfirejim · « **Reply #262 on:** December 21, 2009, 06:27:18 AM »

I am getting old :sleep:, I forgot to mention that I will be putting 2" dropped spindles on the front, Opening up the rear wheel wheels slightly to accomadate bigger tiers and upgrading the alt.

Ok way to medicine :lost:, I also forgot that I will be having the cyl head done with a clean up Port & Polish with a mill job to get the compression up to 9 to 1 and a bigger street cam.

one more time.....
peace
jim

hellfirejim · « **Reply #263 on:** January 27, 2010, 06:16:31 AM »

This is not about my pinto but something i picked up because it was just too good to not get. it is a 94 ranger and it came with a 5.0 V8 and a C4 transmission for $800. it is not perfect, actually it is what we call a 20 footer. looks good at 2o feet. Body is good just needs some TLC. glas and interior are good so no complaints.

just sharing..

http://s93.photobucket.com/albums/l66/hellfirejim/94%20ranger/

peace
jim
PS: Pinto stuff... i justt got a rear window gasket from Frank and i had a rear hatch rubber from Bill so i pull yhr hatch off and clean it down to bare metal and attach my spoiler for real with panel bonding epoxy. I need the rear window pulled to both of these. the list just keeps getting longer.... :read:

dga57 · « **Reply #264 on:** January 28, 2010, 12:11:08 AM »

Jim,
Nice looking truck for the money. My best friend recently bought a '94 Ranger XLT extended cab 2WD with 2.8L/5 spd. The body on it looks like new and the seats were intact but dirty - cleaned up great. It had to have a new headliner but that was only $142 installed. Truck is amazingly smooth and tight in spite of the fact it has 141,000 miles. He paid $1500 for it and considers it a bargain. Runs a lot cheaper than his Hummer H2, and that was his point in buying it. Has probably already paid for itself in gasoline savings!
Dwayne :smile:

hellfirejim · « **Reply #265 on:** January 28, 2010, 06:26:32 AM »

Dwayne, I have really noticed how much cheaper it is for parts and stuff than my Pinto. In some cases at 50% less. Unfortunately it has to sit until the Pinto reaches the next stage so i can pass it on to my grand daughter.

jiim

Mike Modified · « **Reply #266 on:** January 28, 2010, 11:12:45 AM »

Quote from: hellfirejim on January 27, 2010, 06:16:31 AM

This is not about my pinto but something i picked up because it was just too good to not get. it is a 94 ranger and it came with a 5.0 V8 and a C4 transmission for $800. it is not perfect, actually it is what we call a 20 footer. looks good at 2o feet. Body is good just needs some TLC. glas and interior are good so no complaints.

just sharing..

http://s93.photobucket.com/albums/l66/hellfirejim/94%20ranger/

peace
jim
PS: Pinto stuff... i justt got a rear window gasket from Frank and i had a rear hatch rubber from Bill so i pull yhr hatch off and clean it down to bare metal and attach my spoiler for real with panel bonding epoxy. I need the rear window pulled to both of these. the list just keeps getting longer.... :read:

Trade that V8 for a 2.3T

Mike

hellfirejim · « **Reply #267 on:** January 31, 2010, 04:54:25 PM »

Quote from: Mike Modified on January 28, 2010, 11:12:45 AM

Trade that V8 for a 2.3T

Mike

I knew somebody would put that in there... :smile: It really is a matter of cost and time. I have the major pieces and part of the swap kit. Besides I have been down the 2.3 path but I have to be honest I miss the rumble of 500+ horsepower.... .............. ......... :lol:

did I mention I still have my Holset 35>>>>

Mike Modified · « **Reply #268 on:** January 31, 2010, 05:21:05 PM »

Quote from: hellfirejim on January 31, 2010, 04:54:25 PM

did I mention I still have my Holset 35>>>>

No, you didn't. :amazed:

You know, of course, that it won't work on the 5.0.

It would work really nicely on my 2.3T though. :evil:

Mike

hellfirejim · « **Reply #269 on:** February 01, 2010, 06:05:47 AM »

Quote from: Mike Modified on January 31, 2010, 05:21:05 PM

No, you didn't. :amazed:

You know, of course, that it won't work on the 5.0.

It would work really nicely on my 2.3T though. :evil:

Mike

yeah it is one of those twin scoll deals without an internal waste gate. A 23T was where it was going. I know of course it won't work on a 302 but maybe it might work on a 331??? :surprised:

Do you have a T3/T4 combo unit?

jim

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Author Topic: Project Shur'tug'al [AKA 75 Pinto street toy] (Read 31363 times)