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Re: Project Europa Killer
« Reply #30 on: June 19, 2012, 09:28:36 AM »
I bought it new for 28K & dropped another 15K on paint & body mods less than a year later. Engine/trans. set me back nearly 15K so far & over 7K on wheels/tires/brakes/suspension plus so much other stuff I'm forgetting & I'm still not through yet. It's amazing how fast it adds up.....
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Re: Project Europa Killer
« Reply #31 on: June 20, 2012, 01:52:04 PM »
well i'm sure it'll hellishly fast....
Cars I own:
*87 Ford Ranger. 2.3 was EFI now carb and loving it. <-- my baby
*75 Chevy Nova 250 I6. nice cruiser.

Past cars i've owned:
*65 Ford mustang 200 I6.
*68 Ford Ranchero 302.
*78 Ford F350 Camper Special Ranger XLT with a 460.
*74 Dodge Charger HT with a 318.
and that's all of them.

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Re: Project Europa Killer
« Reply #32 on: June 20, 2012, 02:49:17 PM »
well i'm sure it'll hellishly fast....

It remains to be seen. On paper it should handle like a roadracer, top out near 190 mph & run low 9's with a drag suspension installed. I'll settle for street drivability & a tolerable ride that doesn't jar my teeth loose.
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Re: Project Europa Killer
« Reply #33 on: June 26, 2012, 10:50:39 PM »


there is an aluminum windsor to save weight, but that is cubic dollars
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Re: Project Europa Killer
« Reply #34 on: August 09, 2012, 10:50:30 AM »
If your still thinking about this, have you considered using a 3.7 engine and trans from a new Mustang? That's 305 hp stock. Adding a turbo would get you in the hp range your looking for. You can get those complete takeout's with trans for 2-3 grand.

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Re: Project Europa Killer
« Reply #35 on: August 09, 2012, 10:29:04 PM »
Here's an aluminum V8 that isn't cast of pure money...


Ford owned Rover when the 4.0 and 4.6 motor was in them. I don't know where everybody is getting their engine weights at, but this motor in stock 200 hp(about 280 ft lbs)4.6 form weights almost exactly the same as the 2.3. Accessories add weight to both, but without accessories both weight about 315 pounds(the 2.3 is actually about 10 pounds heavier). The Rover can be stroked to 5.0 and built to 350 or so for NA, but it is a bit limited in RPM(6000 max without injections of pure gold). I'm thinking a low compression torque motor with a smallish turbo(instant boost, about 15 lbs), near stock cam and forged pistons. Methanol/water injection instead of intercoolers and hide the turbo where the right rear seat used to be, boxed in and isolated from the interior, the seat back makes an excellent lid. It dresses up kind of nice, too...





Notice the Boss 302ish valve covers(stock on 3.9, like this, and all 4.0 and 4.6 models, though they have no distributors at all)and the distributor more or less in the right place? Even the exhausts are spaced nearly correctly. Technically, it's a Ford, visually it looks like a Ford(if you squint) and you won't even have to change the front springs. and they are torque monsters! Given a choice of huge low end torque and modest top end power or weak low end torque and high horsepower up high, take the torque every time(why do you think muscle cars came with truck engines?). Torque moves the car while horsepower is waiting on rpm, add a turbo to boost the top end and you have Ecoboost, the best of both worlds.


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Re: Project Europa Killer
« Reply #36 on: August 10, 2012, 11:16:50 AM »



This is the Lincoln LS/Thunderbird 3.9 V8(290 hp stock)


And this is the 400 hp 4.2 supercharged Jaguar AJ V8...



Notice the similarity? (hint, Ford owned Jaguar at the time). And if you look at the oil pan it seems designed to drop right in to a Pinto.


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Re: Project Europa Killer
« Reply #37 on: November 08, 2012, 07:12:39 PM »
Do you happen to know what the lincoln engine is off hand? I have searched and searched to no avail, thanks!

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