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Re: Oooops, I did it again..... A '76 wagon this time :)
« Reply #60 on: June 18, 2014, 04:03:14 PM »
cool!! have quick question what radiator are you running in your 80 again? going to get one to put in my 75 pinto street/strip project.


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It's for a Dodge Durango V6 but I think the hoses are on the wrong side for a 302. The in/outlets are also the same size as stock 2.3 hoses. If you play around with Summit's parts finder you can input hose sizes & locations & find ones that should fit. I have an aluminum Griffin 2 core (1.25" cores) for a street rod with SBF in/out locations that should cool 450 HP & it only cost me $120. I forget the exact size but it's something like 19"x21" & it fits between the framerails.
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Re: Oooops, I did it again..... A '76 wagon this time :)
« Reply #61 on: June 18, 2014, 05:03:20 PM »
Need one for the 2.3 turbo setup right now then will work on 302-351w stuff later!  Found a 302 w a c4 on Craigslist but guy will not call back! :-(
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« Reply #62 on: June 18, 2014, 06:19:24 PM »
Need one for the 2.3 turbo setup right now then will work on 302-351w stuff later!  Found a 302 w a c4 on Craigslist but guy will not call back! :-(

Oh OK, that one is perfect for the turbo engine. That's what I plan to use it with eventually. I get frustrated by people who list stuff on craigs & never get back to you. I've never understood that.
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Re: Oooops, I did it again..... A '76 wagon this time :)
« Reply #63 on: June 22, 2014, 04:21:47 PM »

Oh OK, that one is perfect for the turbo engine. That's what I plan to use it with eventually. I get frustrated by people who list stuff on craigs & never get back to you. I've never understood that.

A lot of ads expire but people never take them down.
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« Reply #64 on: June 23, 2014, 09:44:52 AM »
A lot of ads expire but people never take them down.
I've had it happen with ads less than 24 hours old several times. I find it hard to believe Pinto parts went just minutes after an ad hit craigs LOL
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« Reply #65 on: June 23, 2014, 11:31:26 PM »
I find it hard to believe Pinto parts went just minutes after an ad hit craigs LOL
It's just luck, there's always someone out there that "can't live without it" just have to find that person, just happen that person was there, LOL..
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Re: Oooops, I did it again..... A '76 wagon this time :)
« Reply #66 on: July 05, 2014, 05:38:32 PM »
I've had it happen with ads less than 24 hours old several times. I find it hard to believe Pinto parts went just minutes after an ad hit craigs LOL

Honestly, I saw some Pinto Parts on Craigslist and when I called the fenders were already gone (I wanted one instead of doing the bodywork). He sold the seats (blue though) and almost everything else. I called the day after the ad was posted. Yeah, Pinto parts LOL  So now I check twice a day.

I think there are a lot more Pintos being fixed up and restored than we know about :D
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Re: Oooops, I did it again..... A '76 wagon this time :)
« Reply #67 on: July 07, 2014, 02:15:26 AM »
I must have missed something, but why do you have to cut up and scrap this body when you are ready to build the other car? Or did you switch cars in the middle of this with the one with the bad floors?
I also got lost on when the run on stuff happened, it sounded like the car was running great.
Confused.  :-[ Or it could be the lack of a/c right now and being in Phoenix and frying my brain out.
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« Reply #68 on: July 08, 2014, 11:44:33 AM »
I must have missed something, but why do you have to cut up and scrap this body when you are ready to build the other car? Or did you switch cars in the middle of this with the one with the bad floors?

This car was hit hard in the drivers quarter at one time plus again in the front. It still drives straight but there is a lot of hidden damage, not to mention rust. The other body is clean & has never been hit but the title is MIA. I need this car for that plus the interior, dash & all wiring. I'm going to save anything else that's usable but this body is shot.
 
I also got lost on when the run on stuff happened, it sounded like the car was running great.
Confused.  :-[ Or it could be the lack of a/c right now and being in Phoenix and frying my brain out.
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It ran decent but has never gotten more than 15 mpg on it's best day. I've swapped everything on the engine trying to solve the fuel usage issues to no avail. I'm also now using water with no external leak so I'm thinking head gasket. If I have to tear into it that far I'm going to swap it out for another engine plus every new part I can replace in hopes I solve the mpg dilemma. I hate slush boxes so I'm popping one of my T5's in it while I'm at it. This is the drivetrain that will go in the other wagon shell & eventually become my daughters car so it's not just a waste of time since it has a future date with that car.
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« Reply #69 on: July 09, 2014, 08:36:04 PM »
Oh, thanks.
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« Reply #70 on: July 11, 2015, 10:12:06 PM »
I found myself switching jobs which puts me 90 miles from home every day of the week. It's not worth the 3 hour round trip to go home daily so I rented a self storage to work on my cars while I'm sitting between runs. I built a loft for parts storage & brought everything I need including a generator for electricity.



It didn't take me long to get started. I had the old engine out by the end of the second day.



I swapped in the manual rack from the 80 after installing new boots, tie rod ends & bushings.



The 87 WC T5 is painted & ready to install along with one of my D5 direct pull bellhousings.



My truck has an air compressor so I use that to run my air tools & did some port clean up on the D-port head.



The engine is all painted up, has new gaskets, an NOS distributor, new timing belt & tensioner & should be going in next week.



At this rate I should have this car finished by mid August at the latest & can then bring the 80 hatch down & get moving on that car.
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« Reply #71 on: July 12, 2015, 06:15:41 AM »
Busy guy !

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« Reply #72 on: July 12, 2015, 07:50:59 AM »
Lookin good..
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« Reply #73 on: July 12, 2015, 10:18:25 AM »
Busy guy !

I've been trying to find time for this for well over a year. It's about time I get my tail moving on these cars.

Lookin good..

I'm trying to resist making the engine compartment look pretty. I'm still gonna scrap this wagon body once the new one's ready for the parts swapping but my OCD is at least gonna force me to clean it & spray bomb some cheapo satin black.
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« Reply #74 on: July 12, 2015, 10:29:45 PM »
I'm trying to resist making the engine compartment look pretty. I'm still gonna scrap this wagon body once the new one's ready for the parts swapping but my OCD is at least gonna force me to clean it & spray bomb some cheapo satin black.
Quick and easy and looks good, nothing wrong with that...
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« Reply #75 on: July 19, 2015, 10:35:30 PM »
My clutch consists of a new Perfection flywheel, pressure plate & disc for an 87 Mustang. I know it's Chinese but they sell to Zoom & have a good rep so I should be in good shape.

I'm running one of my D5 direct pull bellhousings & during assembly discovered there was almost no clutch travel at the fork. I think the 75 flywheel is about 5/8" thicker than the one I'm running.



I swapped on a bellcrank bellhousing to check the travel since that's what my new flywheel was designed for. It has roughly an inch which only about half of that is needed.



I had a cracked bellcrank bell so I pulled the pivot ball out & swapped it for the 75 version since it's about 5/8" longer.



The longer pivot solved the problem & now I have 1-1/2" of travel so I installed everything with some red Loctite & buttoned it up.



I installed it Tuesday in about 15 minutes.







The 38/38 Weber looks great on there & between the NOS Duraspark, NOS distributor & the new MSD coil I have eliminated every single original piece on this car. I have a new NOS American made AC Delco fuel pump to replace the 40 year old original.

If this sucker still gets 14 mpg after all this I swear to god I'll set fire to it & burn it to the ground. 
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« Reply #76 on: July 20, 2015, 06:01:57 AM »
Wish I had thought to test fork movement on the floor like you did.
I installed my engine trans, had lots of stuff hooked up. Finally hooked up the cable......OPP S !
Pivot ball not long enough ! Had a Lakewood adjustable sent from the city for the fix.

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« Reply #77 on: July 20, 2015, 07:33:12 AM »
It's looking good.. 8)
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« Reply #78 on: July 20, 2015, 06:23:13 PM »
The loft is filling up with parts week by week. Anything I may need is finding its way there. The toughest problem with working 90 miles from home is making sure I bring every part I could possibly need since there's no running home to my garage to grab it until the weekend. So far, so good. 

I'm definitely glad I mocked up the clutch on the floor. I had a hunch the combo of a 1975 bellhousing & a 1987 flywheel & clutch was going to give me issues & I was right. I checked everything I could think of & the thickness of the flywheel was the only minor stumbling block. I have another D5 bellhousing for my 80 so now I know the fix going into that car since I have another new 87 style clutch for that car too. I could have just used the newer bellcrank bell but I had 2 of the 75's & I have 2 of the 79 D9 versions as well so why not make use of them. 

Even though this car is my DD & beater all these parts will still be transferred to the other shell when the time comes so I want to get it right now for the sake of making the body swap easy down the road.
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« Reply #79 on: July 30, 2015, 08:57:37 PM »
Just one word: Awesome!
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« Reply #80 on: August 02, 2015, 11:22:14 PM »
Clutch cable is in & hooked up. I've got good freeplay & plenty of throw.



Made my transmission mount from my old F150 work for the T5. I made this box to adapt the C4 into that truck & it was perfect in the Pinto.



I didn't even need to slot the holes in the stock mount.



I'm going to do the other 2 cars the same way. I like the clean look & no welding part.





I was expecting my shifter to be farther forward than it is.



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« Reply #81 on: August 12, 2015, 10:52:40 AM »
looking good - what happen with the 73 for your boy?!?!
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« Reply #82 on: August 27, 2015, 05:57:35 PM »
looking good - what happen with the 73 for your boy?!?!

It's #4 on the list after the 80 hatch then the 71 half hatch then the 72 V8 car. Most of the hard work on the 80 is done so it's mostly clean up, detailing & assembly. The 71 I just want to drive so it's gonna get a quickie assembly & I'll go crazy another day on it. The V8 car is gonna get the engine compartment & engine done to perfection & some primer on the body to make it one color so I can drive it. I'll work on it a little at a time while I'm driving it.
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« Reply #83 on: August 27, 2015, 10:10:44 PM »
It's coming along good..
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« Reply #84 on: August 27, 2015, 11:30:04 PM »
It's #4 on the list after the 80 hatch then the 71 half hatch then the 72 V8 car. Most of the hard work on the 80 is done so it's mostly clean up, detailing & assembly. The 71 I just want to drive so it's gonna get a quickie assembly & I'll go crazy another day on it. The V8 car is gonna get the engine compartment & engine done to perfection & some primer on the body to make it one color so I can drive it. I'll work on it a little at a time while I'm driving it.

Woah! You're up to your "upper inseam" in these things?!
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« Reply #85 on: August 28, 2015, 09:36:59 AM »
Rule #1 with us Pinto People , you can never have enough Pintos . and Pinto5.0 is just short a few to have one for each day of the week to drive , sweet  8)
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« Reply #86 on: August 29, 2015, 08:07:03 PM »
It sure looks pretty with everything clean & painted.





The front suspension was a nasty mess so I cleaned & painted everything. The upper control arms got swapped for a pair I had with new bushings & both ball joints are now new. 











Swapped the headlights for some HID's & installed dedicated headlight wiring that runs power direct from the battery using relays instead of running all power through the headlight switch. All the stock headlight switch does now is turn them on.









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Re: Oooops, I did it again..... A '76 wagon this time :)
« Reply #87 on: August 29, 2015, 08:53:45 PM »
Now that it's running I moved on to the body & paint. I always wanted to try moving my bumpers in but not all the way. I moved them back almost 2 inches which is perfect. I also got rid of the excess parts of the impact brace I didn't need.





I trimmed the rubber filler 2 inches & it came out great.





Under the red the drivers fender had 1/8" of paint. YES, 1/8" of paint, all 8 layers plus bondo. What a nightmare!





Under that mess was a 30 inch crease 1/4" deep filled with filler.



An hour of careful work with a hammer & dolly gave me a 90 percent improvement.



More dolly work got it ready for some filler, 1/16 inch versus the 1/4 inch I ground out.





A bit of primer later.....



Under the fender was this mess. Just another reason I have another shell to replace this one eventually.





I slathered everything in seam sealer & covered it in gray rustoleum paint.





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'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

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Re: Oooops, I did it again..... A '76 wagon this time :)
« Reply #88 on: August 29, 2015, 09:24:13 PM »
It sure looks pretty with everything clean & painted.
Yep sure does.. ;) :D
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Re: Oooops, I did it again..... A '76 wagon this time :)
« Reply #89 on: August 29, 2015, 09:45:29 PM »
Dug out 1/2 inch of bondo, all metal & fiberglass in the drivers door & found the whole front corner was GONE!



The back was swiss cheese as well.



I cut out the rust with the plan to just patch it to get me by a few years but it's a complete mess in the middle as well.







I've got another door with 90 percent less rust so I'm just gonna use it instead.

I took a break from the body to rid myself of the rubber isolators on the rear axle & make new perches. I needed a welder so I picked up this 110 volt Lincoln mig to run off my generator. It works great.












I painted the axle & springs with gray rustoleum



I also reinforced the shock mounts top & bottom.



'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze