Author Topic: 77 2.3l pinto wagon (Read 2108 times)

miked1989 · « **on:** December 06, 2008, 07:43:49 PM »

i am really stuck on my car. i don't have the exp or knowledge to keep rebuilding my car by myself. is there anyone in the Sacramento California area that would be willing to come look at my car and help me with it. we can work sumthing out about cash so that my car can get done and you can get payed.

its just mostly wiring/cooling/alt/powersteering and allot of small things. i put on a new carb but i don't know how to hook it up to my block. i got it bolted down but don't know weather i did it right.

my uncle started this project by pulling the moter and may have lost important parts. thats y i need sumone who knows what there dealing with to come help me out. and then handed the car over to me witch is were i am now...

mike

discolives78 · « **Reply #1 on:** December 06, 2008, 08:09:14 PM »

Do you have any sort of repair manual at all? I live in New Mexico, so I can't just "come over and look" but I will help in any way I can, and I'm sure others will too. The carb is a fairly simple thing. There's a base gasket which, on my 78 at least, you can't put on backwards. the throttle linkage faces the back of the car and the choke faces the driver side

there is one single wire with a black rectangular connector which goes to the choke, and the throttle cable has a socket that the ball on the linkage pops into and a spring clip to hold it in place. Then you need to hook up the vacuum lines.

I'm here almost every day and like I said, I will help in any way I can.

As far as the alternator, there is one bolt on top and one on bottom and one set of wires that plugs into it. To remove it, loosen the top bolt, push the alternator toward the block and remove the belt, then remove the bottom bolt, then the top and carefully maneuver it up to the top. changing the power steering pump is about the same except there are two rubber hoses on the back of the pump and no wires. Use an open end wrench to remove the hoses. To reinstall, reverse the removal procedure and use a long tire iron or crowbar to hold the unit out with about 3/4 inch of play in the belt and tighten the bolts (it may be best to tighten the bolts until you can just barely move the unit before worrying about belt tension). I don't usually take alternators or power steering pumps apart, they are available rebuilt at most autoparts stores, I like NAPA. I'm pretty ok with electrical work, too, so shout your problems and I'll answer best I can, and try to get pics of things on my car to help, 77 and 78 pinto are almost identical. I have a Haynes Pinto/Bobcat manual and a Haynes Auto Electrical manual, and they are good enough that an average person can get through these tasks. Don't give up, pintogirl and her husband live in your area (sacramento) and miked lives in folsom, maybe they can help too.

chrisf1219 · « **Reply #2 on:** December 07, 2008, 11:21:12 AM »

hello mike you have a good start on your car. i have a 77 wagon with 2.3 auto p/s p/b a/c and the comlete service ford manurals for 77 fords. ilive in ceres ca. down by modesto area.send me a pm with your phone # i work nights during the week but i could bring my wagon and manurals for a look sometime this month maybe dont know yet. since your car might not run yet the bad part might be passing smog which is the only bad part of having a 77. chris in ceres ca.

lencost · « **Reply #3 on:** December 07, 2008, 04:06:21 PM »

Hay miked1989 I live near chrisf1219 would be glad to help, maybe I can hitch a ride with Chris.

Leonard

P.S. Take Chris up on hes offer he is glad to help.

miked1989 · « **Reply #4 on:** December 07, 2008, 05:23:05 PM »

the best time for me is on the weekend. the car is in rio linda

miked1989 · « **Reply #5 on:** December 13, 2008, 07:50:45 PM »

this is how far i am with the car

discolives78 · « **Reply #6 on:** December 13, 2008, 08:22:41 PM »

What's that carb off of? It looks like a v-6 carb. that cable and bracket aren't going to work with it (doesn't look like). Does your throttle linkage (toward the valve cover)move to the front or back to open? If it moves to the back to open, you should be able to use that cable (it pulls)you just have to relocate the bracket to the backside somehow. That's provided the ball on the linkage is the same size as the socket in your cable) Your car has power steering right? (that should be the bottom picture) and the alternator should mount above it.

miked1989 · « **Reply #7 on:** December 13, 2008, 11:02:00 PM »

i bought the carb new from kragens, my uncle told me was the right one... i had to buy a addapter plate for it since it didnt bolt on. the original carb was a webber from a toyota i think. another one of my uncles had messed with the carb. i got a dvd that came with it and it tells me to buy a new bracket and ball for the linkage. it moves tword the back.

chrisf1219 · « **Reply #8 on:** December 14, 2008, 11:10:51 AM »

hey mike i my be wrong but i have got a 77 wagon and theres no way that engine with carb setup and header combo is going to pass a smog and test visual look fo the air cleaner and all the extra hoses that go the exhaust manifold .every hole has to be pluged up and all hoses connected to pass smog which for a 77 means it has to be running great to do. you got a cat on your exhaust system if not your kinda blow out of the water.nice stuff on your engine but ca. smog wont like it unless you plan on not getting it registred.you pretty much have to run a stock carb air cleaner and all hoses connected to pass smog in ca.imean the stock closed air cleaner.ive got alot of chrome on my engine and i run a open filter ford racing air cleaner and bolt on all the stock stuff every 2 years for the smog test.if there wasnt anymore smog tests i would have a header manifold and all kinda of xtras on it. chris

miked1989 · « **Reply #9 on:** December 14, 2008, 01:22:36 PM »

ok im goin to buy a stock carb, i have the stock exhaust manifold, i dont have the shratnel for it. my uncle had smoged the car before i bought it off him and thne i registred it to my name, so next time it comes to smogging ima have to put stock stuph back on. do i need the shratinal to pass smog? never have done before first car.

discolives78 · « **Reply #10 on:** December 14, 2008, 08:48:09 PM »

I take it the 'shrapnel' you're referring to is the preheater that has a 2" diameter hole for a hose that goes to the bottom of the 'leg' off the stock aircleaner. If your car is 'breathing' cold air it may affect emissions. I live in an area where smog isn't required but my car is pretty original and complete, so I'm planning to keep it that way. Your car should have had a Holley 5200 carburetor, it looks a lot like a weber.

In the second picture you can see the 2" hose I'm talking about and there is some sort of bypass that leads off the smog pump on the pass side above the manifold. This should also need to be there for the car to pass smog. In the first picture, below the carb is a silver canister with a vacuum hose on it. That is an EGR valve, and it looks like you're missing that too.

miked1989 · « **Reply #11 on:** December 15, 2008, 11:16:17 AM »

k thanks

lencost · « **Reply #12 on:** December 16, 2008, 02:47:28 AM »

It looks like a holly carb to me, and not the stock one. If you need the origanal rebuilt P.M. me.

Leonard

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