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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #210 on: June 06, 2017, 06:48:20 PM »
Last Sunday I blasted the areas to start the SUB frames. Should be cutting the pan in the AM , as well as the start of the 1.5" x 3" tubing.





Is it this site that is shrinking the pics so you have to click on them ? Don't like that.....

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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #211 on: June 10, 2017, 06:35:34 AM »
Got started.....mo stly welded in on this piece. More changes will be made in the seat area & will make more sense later....
Got the other side cut out & the pieces cut, for install today.






FYI - this moves the spring mounts in 8". It's getting big tubs for the planned 29 x 18.50 x 15 tires !

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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #212 on: June 10, 2017, 08:48:48 PM »
Day started with a suspension up-grade for my sand blaster - blown wheel !
Had some much stronger ones on the shelf. 5/8" axle shaft as well.
Still have to install a longer leg on the one side, so it sits level. Wanted it working right now though.



As can be seen (?), at the end of the first part, it angles up towards the trunk. Plan is to eliminate one angle at the back bottom of where the back seat was. Also have plans to eliminate about 1/2 of that area, allowing more room in front of the axles, in case I decide on ladder bars & in case I run the exhaust out the back, rather than dumping in front of the back wheels. (thinking about Caltracks as well)






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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #213 on: June 11, 2017, 04:51:41 PM »
Lots of nice reinforcement there. The down side of sandblasting is that the sand seems to trickle out for some time, even after a good vacuum.

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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #214 on: June 11, 2017, 08:46:49 PM »
Yup on the sand ! LOL !

Tidy up day. Closed up the front inside & made attachment points for the crotch belt for a 5 point harness.






Bolt is for show.... need to get longer ones.




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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #215 on: June 16, 2017, 07:13:11 AM »
Yesterday blasted more areas & tubing for frame work.

First thing today will be welding in the braces that go from the front spring perches to the rockers.

Then start on the pieces going to the back , through the trunk.
This section will be done in two parts.
I'll be bracing the car up at the front spring perches. Then welding the new frame from the top, where I can.
Then remove the OEM shock & old gas tank brackets & spare tire well.
More blasting, then finish welding in where I can.
Going to take a couple/few days.....

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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #216 on: June 18, 2017, 04:07:58 PM »
Got more done. More or less..... still have a cross brace to go in, which will be a place to mount shock tops & gas tank. Lots of fab work to the floor pan in the back seat area.
I removed parts from the bottom & next is some more blasting on the bottom side.










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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #217 on: June 26, 2017, 06:26:00 PM »
Blasting yesterday & cutting/welding today. Still have some pan welds to frame rails under the car to do. Then I can make the mods to the back seat area between the rails. This is for more room in front of the axles for "stuff".
Cut some of the old wheel wells out. Lots more to remove, but I'm down to one zip blade !
Note that the tubing at the back of the car ties into the OEM spring perches.








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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #218 on: June 29, 2017, 05:37:35 PM »
Wanted to test on a small part, before the dash.

Ideal would be to take the VIN off & take it to town rad shop. He can acid dip etc & have it 100% clean........b ut I have not found a buddy that will send me the rosette rivits I'd need to put the VIN back on (hint hint....LOL ), which in aluminum & would melt in the dip.

Since I want a fiberglass dash in my 72 I plan to grind the rivet from the back side of the steel dash so the heads are intact then use silicone adhesive to glue the tag/rivets to the glass dash.
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #219 on: June 30, 2017, 07:50:42 AM »
Pinto 5.0 - good to see you posting !

I see the right rivets listed in the States......no t sure if they would cross to here though ?

I'll likely do as you are....


Would REALLY like to know your thoughts on my SUB frames......

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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #220 on: June 30, 2017, 03:07:45 PM »
IMGUR account...


Got one side pan boxed in today. Gives me an extra 4.5" at the back & 2" at the front of the box.






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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #221 on: July 02, 2017, 04:01:00 PM »
Rear pan mods done. Some grinding to do here & there.
One inner wheel well removed - ran out of zip blades, on a Sunday.....and long week end !








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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #222 on: July 04, 2017, 09:14:07 PM »
It's easier posting on facebook since this site doesn't want to load using my aircard. I also can't access Photobucket using my aircard so I can't put up pix either.

The chassis is coming out great. I can't wait to see it with the springs & axle fitted.

I just can't seem to find time to touch my 72. Too many things keep getting in my way.
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #223 on: July 05, 2017, 06:01:44 AM »
Diff will be narrowed - don't know when though.

Still undecided on what all to attach to it yet.
One thought is ladder bars. If I do that, float the diff.
Thought maybe Caltracks ?
Springs will likely be OEM leaf springs ?

Hope to hear how Tony's (in Calgary) works out. 1971 with 351C - split mono with Caltracks.

Also wheelie bars  ;D

As mentioned (?) I already have a big bearing diff housing.
Also a Detroit Locker , that has been fluted to reduce rotating mass.



Have not decided on gears yet.
Not sure on which trans I'll end up with.
I have a T-5 & a C-4. May end up with something stronger ?

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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #224 on: July 17, 2017, 12:02:37 AM »
Dam Derrick you've been busy,mine is going slow now lack of enthusiasm and free cash. Lol. The Caltracs should work seeing as they are a proven product and by the way were a great company to deal with and would recommend them to anyone.

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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #225 on: July 17, 2017, 04:58:03 AM »
Lots to do before I decide on Caltracs or ?

Just started a new job & "extra" cash will not be available for a few months.
Other than some shop supplies, the bulk of the extra $ will go into the white car, which needs valve springs & rockers. Re-coat the Headers & buy front wheels & tires.

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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #226 on: August 17, 2017, 11:49:05 PM »
There's a street.....guy ...near me who runs a Maverick with a CalTracs set up.  That thing hooks like crazy on the streets.  Um....of Mexico.....
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #227 on: August 19, 2017, 01:43:59 PM »
The caltracs bars look like a lot of money for a bolt on item. You could go 4 link for the same $$. And never forget the Lakewood slapper bars. The Lakewood bars really do work if you get a set of real Lakewoods and not the crap from China. And they are adjustable for a straight launch where the Caltracs are not. Once you install the Caltracs, you'll have to go where the bars send you.
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #228 on: August 19, 2017, 11:34:24 PM »
The caltracs bars look like a lot of money for a bolt on item. You could go 4 link for the same $$. And never forget the Lakewood slapper bars. The Lakewood bars really do work if you get a set of real Lakewoods and not the crap from China. And they are adjustable for a straight launch where the Caltracs are not. Once you install the Caltracs, you'll have to go where the bars send you.

The Caltracks can have the amount of tension in the bars adjusted.

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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #229 on: August 21, 2017, 05:55:04 PM »
I can not see how the Caltracks are any better than the tried and proven Traction Master bars. Only difference is Caltrack;s bellcrank up front. And the Traction Master bars are half the price of the Caltracks. Look at a picture of both and you'll see where Caltracks came from. Looks like they were made by the same company.
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #230 on: August 25, 2017, 08:39:36 AM »
I can not see how the Caltracks are any better than the tried and proven Traction Master bars. Only difference is Caltrack;s bellcrank up front. And the Traction Master bars are half the price of the Caltracks. Look at a picture of both and you'll see where Caltracks came from. Looks like they were made by the same company.

Absolutely agree,but it's the bell crank that gives them an advantage over the Traction Master.it is a re-invented wheel but wheels have got better over the years.
On a tighter budget I would. To hesitate to run the other product or even a good slapped bar.

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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #231 on: November 27, 2017, 01:59:06 PM »
Both front / rear valance on the car are badly damaged , so....... NOS ones !


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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #232 on: November 27, 2017, 03:43:44 PM »
Absolutely agree,but it's the bell crank that gives them an advantage over the Traction Master.it is a re-invented wheel but wheels have got better over the years.
On a tighter budget I would. To hesitate to run the other product or even a good slapped bar.

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    If you really want traction then make you some lift bars that go from the rear end housing forward to the frame. They work really good.
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #233 on: November 28, 2017, 09:10:18 AM »
Ladder bars ?
Like on my white car ?






Still not sure what I'll do. This blue car will be (for me) , likely 99% street car.
For this reason I do not really want ladder bars or to float the diff.

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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #234 on: November 28, 2017, 04:41:55 PM »
Lift bars were the rage back in the 60's.They were made from box tubing welded to the axle tubes and run forward to a cross member near the front spring eye. The early pro stock cars around 1964 all had such a set up. And boy did they work. When you droped the hammer on it, the tires would be driven down into the track as the body would rise up because for ever action there is an equal reaction. Had them on my 63 427 Ford Sedan. They would plant the rear tires so hard pictures would show the wheel rim almost hitting the track. They were known sadly, that the axles of the 60's would not last very long. We would paint a white line down the new axle and change it when the axle twisted 1/4 of a turn.
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #235 on: December 09, 2017, 07:43:34 AM »
I seem to remember that style..... not sure I've seen them though ? Maybe "back in the day" ?

I have a bunch of grinding (sanding disk) to do..... yet I'm having a hard time getting motivated.

Maybe today......

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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #236 on: March 22, 2018, 07:59:57 AM »
No work on the car this winter.
Been busy with work....which is a good thing. One stretch was 24 days in a row.
Not as much as I'm used to, but it's law now to not work long stretches. Even if one is OK with it.......

Good thing & rare, I'll be working through spring break: more money - but less time to work on stuff.
I'll be ordering parts this car will need down the road though !

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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #237 on: December 20, 2018, 06:07:32 AM »
Took 4 (short) days to clean the shop so I can work on the cars !

No work till Jan 3rd. so I should get some much needed shop time in !

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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #238 on: December 31, 2018, 10:03:34 AM »
Got a small job done. Rear spring mounts.


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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #239 on: January 21, 2019, 05:18:16 AM »
Bought a different style front spoiler for this car.
Made by Spook, for the early cars.
Fiberglass & is in new condition !