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dick1172762

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And tore them down with out modern weapons. :)
 

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Yes Tools do make it happen faster, but they built castles without cranes too! ;)

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Reeves1

Yesterday at 07:59:00 AM
BTW - wobble is my checkbook - not cars !  ;D

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Yesterday at 07:58:24 AM
I've looked at a few self alignment tool sets over time. Didn't get one.....yet.

dick1172762

July 25, 2017, 10:14:59 AM
If you would buy one of those speed shop magnetic base alignment tools, you will be able to align any and all car from now on. Very simple to use. Even a Vega owner could do it. At about $100 a real good tool to have.

dick1172762

July 25, 2017, 07:56:19 AM
The front end alignment spec I listed would be fine on the street. Might be a little hard to steer a very slow turn's. Would be better than a wobble.

Reeves1

July 24, 2017, 04:23:41 PM
Which reminds me.... what camber/castor would you have on a car that you plan on running as a street/strip car ?

Reeves1

July 24, 2017, 04:22:41 PM
Checkbook has the speed wobble.....car s are OK LOL

dick1172762

July 24, 2017, 03:27:35 PM
You need at least 6 deg negative castor for straight line racings with 0 deg camber and ;D 1/16" tow in on a race car.

dick1172762

July 24, 2017, 11:51:29 AM
Add more caster to front end. ;)

Reeves1

July 24, 2017, 09:25:58 AM
No......has a nasty speed wobble right now  ;D

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Re: 72 DutchWagon rolling resto
« Reply #60 on: December 29, 2016, 03:01:46 PM »
You could have used flex pipe but your looks much better and will last longer too. Only us poor boy's with out a welder use flex pipe. At least to drive it to a muffler shop. Keep up the good work. Your post are always good information.
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Re: 72 DutchWagon rolling resto
« Reply #61 on: January 20, 2017, 02:16:11 PM »
Robert came to visit on his way to job training in the Netherlands, and brought some parts that I was missing from the interior of my car, and would be impossible to find here. Thanks a bunch Robert!
Then an even bigger surprise, Robert opened a large suitcase, and folded out came a new Pinto carpet, which had been sent to him by Blaine! Thatís just unbelievable, I donít know how to thank Pinto_ One  enough for this!
Robert is at the left in the picture, Geert (thatís me) at the right.
And maybe itís just me, but I had the impression that Donkeyís headlights were shining brighter todayÖ

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Re: 72 DutchWagon rolling resto
« Reply #62 on: January 20, 2017, 11:50:37 PM »
It's the willing helpfulness between members that makes this site special!  This is a perfect example of that!

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Re: 72 DutchWagon rolling resto
« Reply #63 on: January 27, 2017, 01:30:52 PM »
Glad your head lights are now shinning very brightly , please post a few photos when you install the carpet , going to look great inside , now you need some nice wheels  ;D
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Re: 72 DutchWagon rolling resto
« Reply #64 on: January 27, 2017, 02:16:19 PM »
He has wheels in the garage.  I seen them.  Glad to see Geert's progress on the wagon.  Blaine gets credit as I was just courier. 

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Re: 72 DutchWagon rolling resto
« Reply #65 on: March 05, 2017, 10:54:02 AM »
Once again Donkey went to the Antwerp Classic Salon (40th edition). On the parking lot he cuddled up to a Audi Ur-Quattro.
Other joys to be seen on the increasingly wet and muddy parking were the classics in the second image, if you look carefully you can also see parts of several recent Bentley convertibles and Porsches next to and behind them, it gives an idea of the wide variety of people that this event attracts.
Third image shows a French Ford SAF ComŤte Monte Carlo, which has the French version of the 239 flathead V8.
Fourth image is a rally prepped Mustang.
Iím sorry, but there wasnít a Ford 2.0 or 2.3 in sight, only Pinto connection was a Capri 2.8 from the last day they built them in 1986.
Used parts availability on these shows is getting poorer by the year, seems that everything is going by the Internet nowadays, and I donít care for stands with model cars, leather caps and goggles.

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Re: 72 DutchWagon rolling resto
« Reply #66 on: March 05, 2017, 10:55:30 AM »
Here are some extra ďeco greenĒ Salon impressions, more or less as a protest against Antwerp creating a LEZ (low emission zone) for the inner city, effectively banning 1 in 5 vehicles registered in that zone (!) from entering it. All over Europe cities are creating their own crazy schemes, so you never know what youíre up against when driving a car older then say 15 years.

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Re: 72 DutchWagon rolling resto
« Reply #67 on: March 08, 2017, 04:15:56 PM »
Nice show.  The big cities here have emissions testing up to a certain age usually 30 yrs or greater, every state different.  I live in country but work in city so I basically get a free pass to pollute the 90 kilometer commute each way

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Re: 72 DutchWagon rolling resto
« Reply #68 on: April 16, 2017, 12:27:08 PM »
So sad to have to say farewellÖ
To a period accessory; the tin mud flaps have reached the end of their working life, all battered and with torn out bolt holes they have to go.
To soften the loss I took Donkey on a 130 mile round trip to the ďAmerican DayĒ in Boxtel.
Here he was in rather exquisite company, but still drew attention for being a true rarity, no Pintoís here, let alone wagonís.
I might have tried to enter the ďconcours díeleganceĒ competition, but in hindsight, that would have have been a step too far.
Donkey behaved impeccably all day, but this was the first time I experienced some fuel starvation with a more than half empty tank on accelerating out off a left hand corner.  Future update wish list gets tank baffling or a swirl pot added.
Still have to find time to perform other work that was already in the planning though, home improvement chores get in the way.

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Re: 72 DutchWagon rolling resto
« Reply #69 on: April 17, 2017, 10:47:37 AM »
Car looks great ,  I hope you keep it out of the mud since you don't have mud flaps anymore .  ;D
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Re: 72 DutchWagon rolling resto
« Reply #70 on: June 24, 2017, 02:36:23 PM »
spring has past, no news...
Had to start sometime on axle change, Donkey is back in the pits.

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Re: 72 DutchWagon rolling resto
« Reply #71 on: June 24, 2017, 06:57:10 PM »
I hate to be the one to tell you this but your going to have a wheel problem , the center 71 to 73 wheels
will not fit the 74 up hubs , they will not slide all the way on ,there is a fix for that 
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Re: 72 DutchWagon rolling resto
« Reply #72 on: June 25, 2017, 11:30:15 AM »
No worries Blaine, I was aware of that, saying goodbye to the 13 inches anyways.
There is one other thing that I would like some advice on.
In Bob2000ís axle conversion story there was a mention of the 71-73 Pintoís having  a round centering point for the rear end on the spring saddle, the 74-80 Pintoís have an oblong hole in the spring perch (see images).
I already knew that the 6 ĺ rear end  under Donkey wasnít the original one, because its tag read WGF-N, which would be a 74-76 rear end (but with 71-73 axles?), and it has the oblong hole, like my 8 inch.
Now, the previous axle swappers didnít see any point in adapting the perch hole to fit exactly to the 72 centering point, and it never was an issue. I guess that sideways the play is only 0.04 inch either way, which isnít worth looking at, and front and backwards, the positioning of the axle is more or less fixed by the U-bolts. Once tightened up I donít believe itís going anywhere.
What do you guys think?

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Re: 72 DutchWagon rolling resto
« Reply #73 on: June 25, 2017, 06:23:23 PM »
Cannot answer your question above.... but just an FYI - you cannot (should not) use the old U bolts.

Any spring shop can make you new ones.

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Re: 72 DutchWagon rolling resto
« Reply #74 on: June 26, 2017, 04:06:40 PM »
Thanks Reeves, that was not on this little project's list, better find some new ones then!

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Re: 72 DutchWagon rolling resto
« Reply #75 on: June 28, 2017, 12:58:05 PM »
Better safe than sorry

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Re: 72 DutchWagon rolling resto
« Reply #76 on: June 28, 2017, 03:41:33 PM »
Very nice work Geert. I need to do that

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Re: 72 DutchWagon rolling resto
« Reply #77 on: July 02, 2017, 03:42:48 PM »
8 inch is finally under Donkey, and with some Italian 15 inch OZ superturismo wheels added itís back on the road. Adaptation for wheels gave some headache, but now Iíve got a wide choice in four bolt wheels with an ET of 27 to 28mm originally intended for primarily Peugeot vehicles. That 27 to 28mm ET is around the 1 inch mark, which is the standard ET for a 72 Pinto according to the Ford car shop manual.
 It meant custom milling on the inside of standard 25mm spacers  intended for Ford to fit on the 8 inch axles,  and adding a centering ring on the outside to compensate for  the slightly bigger center hole in the wheels intended for Peugeot.
Most important reason for taking this route is the low ET, most modern wheels have much higher ETís  and are not usable in this configuration.
Front wheel spacers  still have to be adapted (more milling) so at the moment the front is still running on stock steel.
So far Iím happy with this conversion, less play in driveline, less noise, feels more stable and better  diff ratio, 3.55 to 3.40.