Author Topic: 1977 Pinto- project in the works (Read 28936 times)

77turbopinto · « **Reply #30 on:** April 12, 2008, 02:53:26 PM »

Got it, will ship Monday.

I still have a good running engine you can have if you can come get it.

Bill

r4pinto · « **Reply #31 on:** April 12, 2008, 03:18:56 PM »

I wish I could, but my dad's taurus wagon won't make it too well, if at all. It barely gets him to work so if I get the Pinto running he can drive it while I work on the Taurus. Thanks again, you're a stand up guy Bill.

r4pinto · « **Reply #32 on:** April 12, 2008, 03:26:33 PM »

Finally, I got some pics of the work that I've got done to the car so far. It's the shots of the bodywork I've gotten done so far.

r4pinto · « **Reply #33 on:** April 12, 2008, 03:29:29 PM »

RR quarter panel scratch filled & fixed.

Pics of the passender door repair. Lots of rust, so it's temporary

I have bumps on the a pillar, and am trying to fix it.

r4pinto · « **Reply #34 on:** April 12, 2008, 03:32:49 PM »

RF fender repair. There were lots of small chips & dents in the fender

closeup of the area that had a big dent

r4pinto · « **Reply #35 on:** April 12, 2008, 03:35:31 PM »

Interior work. I redid the trim using the silver sharpie, like Cookieboy suggested. Thanks for the great idea! I went a little further & used a black sharpie on the little spots where black was coming off of the instrument cluster

heater control redone

steering wheel installed

r4pinto · « **Reply #36 on:** April 12, 2008, 03:38:10 PM »

Lastly, a shot of the dashboard after I repainted it in semi-gloss black paint. I plan on taking the glovebox door off & painting the backside of the door semi-gloss.

That's all for now, more to come later

r4pinto · « **Reply #37 on:** April 13, 2008, 02:15:51 PM »

Another update. It's been raining so I'm unable to work on the engine or busy, so I've been working on intierior pieces. The maplight setup I have had a broken mounting screw hole so I'm in the process of fixing it. Previously I used plastic epoxy but it didn't hold, so I decided to retry it with gobs of JB weld. Also this time I've secured the broken piece to the light with a clamp.

Also I had the typical broken sunvisor peg, and used JB weld on it to secure the peg to the visor. I'm gonna start reassembling the interior in the next couple days as well as restitching a torn part of the headliner. Pics to come soon.

r4pinto · « **Reply #38 on:** April 13, 2008, 03:21:01 PM »

Got some more pics of the parts I worked on while it's raining. Including the visor reglue. The top visor in the pic has the JB welded pin. You can see where I had to use JB weld on the map light. If it doesn't stay glued this time then I will keep an eye out for a replacement. I repainted the grille while I had it off & posted a pic of it. Lastly, the sport mirrors I bought long, long ago when I had my 78 hatchback. Black is a neutral color so I went ahead and painted them gloss black so they won't look as bad.

r4pinto · « **Reply #39 on:** April 16, 2008, 03:57:07 PM »

I tested the light repair I made & it's holding perfectly. JB WELD IS AWESOME!!!!

Today I got the oil pump in the mail. Thanks Bill!!! Anyways, looked at the pump and noticed it seemed somewhat different from the original 1977 Ford oil pump when Isaw the tag with a part number. That pump is a Melling oil pump, and looks reasonably new. It must have been replaced at one time in the engine Bill got it out of.

I got the car pulled up the driveway with the help of a 94 Taurus and a piece of chain. My dad's Taurus may be falling apart and near death but the engine & transaxle still have some guts to them. Without even giving the car gas she pulled the Pinto up the driveway with minimal damage to her plastic bumper.

With that I can go ahead and install the brake clips, thanks to Tigger for sending them a while back, and also bleed the brakes to make sure all is good.

r4pinto · « **Reply #40 on:** April 16, 2008, 06:51:12 PM »

Well, I got the driver side brake hose replaced, as well as the anti rattle springs installed. Thanks again Gerhard. When I removed the master cylinder lid I noticed the front part of the reservoir was almost empty. I'm going to check the rear brakes since I think there's a possible leak. I've checked the other front hose & it's ok, from what I can tell. It's as old as the driver side was so I'm thinking I might replace it just to be safe. The rear hose is cracking so that will get changed.

More to come on this pain in the neck project.

ADaughen · « **Reply #41 on:** April 17, 2008, 01:25:13 PM »

Matt, where are you located?

I'm in Dayton, with some spare parts (2.3 short block, etc).

r4pinto · « **Reply #42 on:** April 17, 2008, 01:26:10 PM »

I'm in Reynoldsburg, Oh.

ADaughen · « **Reply #43 on:** April 17, 2008, 02:18:50 PM »

Cool. Well, let me know if you need any parts off mine.

My crank is probably original, but she ran when I pulled her...

Have you gotten the floor pan issue(s) resolved? The Rust Monster took everything between the firewall and the seat mounts on the driver's side.

I'm probably going to make my own out of 18ga steel sheet.

r4pinto · « **Reply #44 on:** April 17, 2008, 03:03:18 PM »

Cool. Thanks for the offer. I have a crank out of an 80 2.3 I was rebuilding for the Pinto and the crank is in great shape so I'm gonna use that.

Nah, haven't gotten the floors tane care of yet. Mine are very bad. The driver side had been patched by the old owners by screwed in street sign, but I want a good fix that will hold. The passenger side is starting to look like swiss cheese so I gotta take care of that also. The underside is very rusty on the car, but the body is in decent shape. The rockers are solid, and very little of the rear quarters are rusted out. I plan on patching the rear quarters by welding in new metal. Right now I'd be happy if the car had brakes. The reservoir for the rear brakes was almost completely dry so I gotta track down the problem there.

ADaughen · « **Reply #45 on:** April 17, 2008, 03:37:07 PM »

No problem... If you want, I'm looking at shaping my driver's side, running a few bead rolls and welding it in. I could do two and leave some extra metal on the sides so it'd be a "cut to fit"... I could mirror that on the passenger side easily enough. I'm not sure if I need to do mine, yet. Too many parts over on that side.

If I was off on weekends, I'd offer to come out and lend a hand.

r4pinto · « **Reply #46 on:** April 17, 2008, 08:30:53 PM »

It just got worse folks....
I went to remove the rf brake hose & the line broke. New line up front needed. I jacked up the rear & found the leak. crumbling LR metal line. Saw the rear hose & it's about ready to go. It gets better folks... I was carefully rolling the car down the driveway & missed the block for the front wheel so the car rolled into the garage and hit my rolling workbench. No harm there. I got the taurus to pull it up the driveway & forgot to close the driver door. It caught on the grass & bent it backwards. You guesed it, the door won't cloe right now and is dented up bigtime. I now need a new door & possibly a new lower hinge. The upper was the wrong one and I have a replacement upper in the garage. I pulled the driveshaft and the front u joint is quite free, compared to the rear u joint I replaced in 2006.

At this point, the car might not get to carlisle as now I gotta check my funds..

Oh yeah, when I got the door able to close I started to pull it back up the driveway, hit the gas a little hard and ripped off the bumper on my dad's car. I now gotta get a replacement for the taurus.

What a friggin day!!!!

Cookieboystoys · « **Reply #47 on:** April 17, 2008, 10:05:46 PM »

OMG! what a day...

I don't know what to say other than sorry all that happened.

r4pinto · « **Reply #48 on:** April 17, 2008, 10:34:37 PM »

Thanks. I'm getting a bumper right after work tomorrow so my dad's car will be fixed. I got a post for a replacement door, although I'm going to see if I can fix the old one so it'll atleast close. It drops about 2 inches so I'm not holding my breath there. As my dad told me, it's better to find the bad brake lines now then when they go while driving, which they would have.

As for the ujoint, It's only a couple bucks so I'll get a replacement for it.

r4pinto · « **Reply #49 on:** April 19, 2008, 07:16:36 PM »

Well, I looked at the door yesturday to check it out & see what I can do, and confirmed the door is too badly dented to fix. The lower hinge is trashed so I gotta replace it, and the upper one is also bent. I have a hinge for the top in the garage & Tigger is checking for a good hinge that he's gonna sell me. As for the door, for now it's gonna get sanded, filled & painted so it doesn't look as bad as it does right now with the dent & chipped paint. I don't expect it to look much better but it has to look better than it does right now.

I'm still trying to find a door for the car before Carlisle but if I don't find one atleast the one on the car should be able to open & close alright without dropping any.

r4pinto · « **Reply #50 on:** April 20, 2008, 12:39:48 PM »

Well, today after I got the bumper on my Dad's car I was all wound up & ready to go so I worked some on the Pinto. I was trying to decide whether or not to paint the engine compartment for Carlisle, so I started to paint it gloss black. It's not going to be a perfect job, as it's mainly to make the engine compartment a uniform color, as well as hide some of the rust. It's looking good so far. I got one coat on the passenger side, and ran out of gloss black, so I've got to get more. It's going well so far, and I figured while I had the battery out of the way I might as well do it.

As for the engine, I found another problem that was missed when I replaced the camshaft & rockers. I got the lifters from the Ranger I got the roller rockers out of and installed them, and shortly after I started to hear the noise. Turns out, alside from having worn rod & main bearings and a bad oil pump I also had ONE lifter that I could compress. I am thinking it was making some of the noise I was hearing, as well as the bad bearings at the bottom of the engine. I'm ok with that since I kept a set of lifters I previously bought with the cam. The cam & lifters came out of a 92 Ranger, but I had to get different Rockers for it.
Anyways, I'm going to clean up the lifters from the 92 Ranger and install them since there was one bad one from the 84 Ranger.

r4pinto · « **Reply #51 on:** April 21, 2008, 10:01:12 PM »

Got some body work done to the car. Once I get the pics off the cam I'll post them. The hood was never properly sanded when I threw a coat of paint on it so I sanded it to take care of the cracking original paint. It looks & feels so much better, but now I gotta fill the little nicks & dents that are there. I also got some work to both doors. The passenger door is about 3/4 done & the driver door is just about filled where I dented it. It won't be perfect, but it'll look better than it did after I messed it up. I also sanded the cowl in the corners. I think the previous owners had the hood open up while driving since there is one small dent on both sides of the cowl pan, which match up perfectly with the corners of the hood. It's not the hood on the car now. The original one was rusting badly on the underside so I replaced it. I plan on repairing the windshield seal tomorrow after work and sanding some of the bondo on the driver door and spot filler on the hood.

r4pinto · « **Reply #52 on:** April 21, 2008, 10:26:24 PM »

Before

After

FCANON · « **Reply #53 on:** April 22, 2008, 08:37:05 AM »

If that is Glaze your using on the hood make sure it dries althe way threw before finishing it..it tends to hold moisture a long time and shrink back.
Keep it up.

FrankBoss

www.PintoWorks .com
www.FrankBoss. com

r4pinto · « **Reply #54 on:** April 22, 2008, 12:55:27 PM »

Thanks for the tip. You learn something new everyday. I plan on working on sanding ot probably tomorrow since I gotta get the house ready for an appraisal. I did notice a little what you're saying, on spots I worked on before, unfortunately I wasted a lot of time since I didn't know what was causing it.

Now I know for later. Hopefully tomorrow I'll have the replacement lifters installed, rockers back in & the valve cover reinstalled. If all goes according to plan I'll be dropping the transmission this weekend at the latest, and then I can change the bad bearings and crankshaft.

r4pinto · « **Reply #55 on:** April 23, 2008, 09:55:57 PM »

Quote from: FCANON on April 22, 2008, 08:37:05 AM

If that is Glaze your using on the hood make sure it dries althe way threw before finishing it..it tends to hold moisture a long time and shrink back.
Keep it up.

FrankBoss

www.PintoWorks .com
www.FrankBoss. com

I tell ya, you're the man with that tip. Sure enough out of all the spots I filled the dent I filled did shrink back a little bit. I finished it off today with some bondo and will sand it tomorrow.

As for the rest of the work I did today, I sanded the driver door where the dent is and got another coat of bondo over it. The door is gonna have lots of bondo in one spot of the door, but it'll look better than the dent did. I also got the lifters & rockers back in the head, as well as the valve cover back on. Tomorrow if all goes according to plan I'll be doing more sanding to the door to get the shape back. I hope to have a coat of primer over the hood, and be ready for painting. The rf fender is just about ready, as I have some minor sanding to do to it before I prime it. I'm also going to fill in the cracks on the windshield seal to make sure it doesn't leak. A new seal will be coming sometime in the summer when I can afford it, hopefully anyways.

Pics of the work to come soon.

r4pinto · « **Reply #56 on:** April 28, 2008, 06:34:20 PM »

Well, one of the rusty areas on my car is at the back, located at the trunk seal. I gotta replace the rusty metal with new metal welded in, but in the mean time I had some galvanised aluminum that I cut to shape, rivited into place, and sealed up with some indshield sealant. This is only temporary, but looks better, and hopefully will keep out the rain from the trunk.

r4pinto · « **Reply #57 on:** May 18, 2008, 06:06:19 PM »

I've been so busy lately that I haven't done much to her lately. That combined with crappy weather, and school I haven't been able to work on her much. Today I rolled the car back up the driveway with help from my Dad, and started working on fixing the brakes. I looked at the rear brake line that went from the proportioning valve to the back of the car, and there was no good section of line to cut, flare & connect a new piece. When I noticed that I went ahead and unbolted the whole brake line from the car. That's one less rusty thing on the car now. Tomorrow I'm going to get the line needed for the rear, as well as the small part of the front brakes. I hope to be able to bleed the brakes on tomorrow, the end of the week at the latest.

I also went ahead and drained the tranny in the car and noticed there was only 2 quarts in the pan. The transmission lines have been unbolted from the tranny and one was constantly dripping into the bowl I had underneath it, so that might be where some of the fluid went. Either way, the output shaft has so much play in it there's no way I can use it.

I hope to have the tranny pulled and the engine work done by the end of the week. It's gonna be close at this point whether or not the car will go to Carlisle or not, but I'm gonna try.

r4pinto · « **Reply #58 on:** May 22, 2008, 10:04:09 PM »

IT HAS BRAKES!!!!!! For the first time since god knows when I don't have to pump the pedal to get the car to stop. When I got the car I bled the crap out of the brakes and the pedal was better, but never perfect. I thought it was just that they were manual brakes but was wrong.

Anyways today I installed the brake line from front to back, and also the small section on the rf wheel, bled the brakes, then had the most solid pedal the car has had in the three years I have owned the car. I ordered a brake hose for the back, since the old one is badly deteriorated, being from 1977. After that there is no part of the brakes that is original.

Unfortunately I did find the underside is in MUCH worse shape than I thought. It needs a heckuva lot of work, as well as some brackets replaced that are badly rusted. At this point I have done so much to the car I am going to whatever I can to save this car. The body is in decent shape, and the interior is in good shape as well.

Last but not least, I did finish painting the front of the car, and will be doing some final sanding to the doors, then they will be the same color as the front end. I also painted the engine compartment & underside of the hood gloss black.
Pics to come soon.

r4pinto · « **Reply #59 on:** May 26, 2008, 11:42:31 AM »

Yesturday I got the doors painted in silver & they look ok. It's not perfect since the doors are junk to begin with but they look better than they did. The vinyl paint was chipping off the rear seat so I repainted it where it was chipping. The console was faded where I didn't properly paint it 2 years ago, so that was redone. The console did not have a panel underneath the emergency brake, so I fabricated one, using a broken plastic container, and some woodgrain contact paper. It's not a perfect color match to the factory woodgrain color, but it looks nicer than having no panel there. To complete the console I installed an ashtray in the back that I bought at Carlisle 2006.

Next to do is to finish assembling the interior, and touching up any interior parts that need it. Rain is in the forcast today so I doubt I will be doing any tranny work to the car, but we'll see. I am also thinking of going ahead and painting the back half of the car to match the front half so it looks better.

I'll get some pics taken today & will get them posted soon.

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