Author Topic: 1975 Drag Car Wagon (Read 4372 times)

Madness · « **on:** June 20, 2011, 10:21:49 AM »

This is my first Pinto project car.

The Plan:

351W
9' rearend
racing bucket seats
Fuel cell

Please feel free to post up ideas and advice. I mainly do 4x4 trucks and this is my first attempt at creating a go fast mobile. Also it should be known that I live in Alaska. So everything is very expensive-- so I plan on fabricating and utilizing the junk yard as often as possible.

Madness · « **Reply #1 on:** June 20, 2011, 10:33:08 AM »

A little background on the Wagon-

60,000 Miles.
Hasn't been on the road since 1983- it has been in a garage its enitre life.
One owner car-
Has every fuel receipt, maintenace receipt
The car is complete and it runs.
It has V6 and an auto transmission.

Couple questions.

What should a run for a transmission?
- C6's are fairly easy to come by up here
- a friend has a cmx (?) cast iron tranny for a SBF
- C4

Does anyone sell brake convertion kits. I would like to change the bolt pattern to a set of wheels that I already have.

Uni-Body--- What are my problems going to be with it?

don33 · « **Reply #2 on:** June 20, 2011, 10:42:08 AM »

Madness.... where in alaska are you ? I'm in the process of building a go fast pinto myself. I would definitely use the C4.

info on the brake conversion, this is everything you need.

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Mustang-II-Complete-11-Inch-Brake-Kit-Ford-Bolt-Pattern,2008.html

unibody....... ......your going to want/need subframe connectors

don33 · « **Reply #3 on:** June 20, 2011, 10:47:05 AM »

welcome to the site, I'm new here myself. I'm sure you will find as I have, everyone is very helpful here. you can check out my project thread here.

http://www.fordpinto.com/your-project/official-1980-turbo-pinto-project-thread/

ah, ok North Pole. I'm in Anchorage...

Madness · « **Reply #4 on:** June 20, 2011, 12:31:09 PM »

A fellow AK dweller. I would love to come down there to the drag strip next year. Hopefully I will be able to ready by then. If you come across a C4 down there let me know. :fastcar:

don33 · « **Reply #5 on:** June 20, 2011, 03:12:32 PM »

click this link.......... . http://anchorage.craigslist.org/pts/2411426656.html

Madness · « **Reply #6 on:** June 20, 2011, 05:10:09 PM »

He still has it... The guy said that it was out of his "crack head wife's car" (his words). He says it was recelty rebuilt but it sounded like he was on something also so it is hard to take his word for anything. I am going to get a buddy to check it out...

don33 · « **Reply #7 on:** June 20, 2011, 05:45:10 PM »

Do you have an engine yet ?

Madness · « **Reply #8 on:** June 21, 2011, 11:30:50 AM »

I have a fresh rebuilt 351W, however it originally was going into a rock buggy that I was building so I plan on changing out the cam. Also I will probably roller rocker it. I have 2 sets of headers, a set of long tube and a set of shorties. The motor has a single plane weiend intake and a cheasey chrome kit ( I didn't buy it)

I will be going to a C4, I was imformed that it will fit in the stock tunnel without modifications.

The 9" that is being donated to this project is a narrow track and already has a locker and 4.10 gears. However the set of wheels that I have are 5 on 4.75 the axel is a 5 on 5.5, I plan on indexing and drilling to the smaller. I will post up the progress as I make it.

Is there a company out there that makes an SBF motor mount kit?

don33 · « **Reply #9 on:** June 21, 2011, 05:57:19 PM »

there are a lot of V8 pinto guys on here that should be able to tell you what kind of headers and motor mounts you need and where to get them. and yes the C4 fits the Pinto tunnel. a lot of pintos actually came stock with C4's . Mine did.

don33 · « **Reply #10 on:** June 23, 2011, 06:40:54 PM »

Madness, just in case you are interested, click this link

http://fairbanks.craigslist.org/pts/2409779550.html

any news on the C4 in Wasilla ?

Madness · « **Reply #11 on:** June 23, 2011, 06:56:13 PM »

The wheels and tires for the wagon. It is a start. eventually I will want to go wider and taller as the times get faster.

don33 · « **Reply #12 on:** June 23, 2011, 07:01:46 PM »

Niiiiiiiiice.. .......

Madness · « **Reply #13 on:** June 29, 2011, 11:41:38 AM »

What is the width of a 8" rear end? My 9" is 58" o - o. I think this will be a touch to wide.

don33 · « **Reply #14 on:** June 29, 2011, 04:15:02 PM »

Madness, I think a stock pinto 8" is right about 57" give or take a tiny bit. someone please correct me if I'm wrong. so your not far off . so that gives you an extrta 1/2" on each side. so depending on the back space on your wheels ?...

Madness · « **Reply #15 on:** June 29, 2011, 07:39:18 PM »

The front brake kit from Speedway makes my front stance 2" wider also. That also creates a delima... If my wheel won't work then I would prefer to have 5 on 4.5 rather than 5 on 4.75. This coming long weekend I plan on pulling the front wheels and getting a rough measurement to check my clearance.

don33 · « **Reply #16 on:** June 29, 2011, 08:14:26 PM »

madness the speedway kit only increases your width 1"......... 1/2" per side

Features a 5 on 4-1/2" Ford/Mopar wheel bolt pattern (increases track width 1/2" per side).

Your 9" is one inch wider than a stock pinto, so it would make your front and rear of equal width.

your 9" is also 5 on 4-1/2" . you might want to consider different wheels. just a thought ?

Madness · « **Reply #17 on:** June 30, 2011, 10:32:04 AM »

My 9" is out of a Gen 1 Bronco, it is 5 on 5.5.

I am just worried about the wider rubber. The front even with the added brackets shouldn't be a problem. The back is my main concern.

I did do some shopping last night! Pictures coming tomorrow.

don33 · « **Reply #18 on:** June 30, 2011, 07:41:53 PM »

I stand corrected.

Madness · « **Reply #19 on:** July 12, 2011, 02:55:43 PM »

Madness · « **Reply #20 on:** July 12, 2011, 03:09:34 PM »

15x6 centerlines front
15x15 rear centerlines

Holley edition cast alu valve covers

fresh rebuilt 351 W

Madness · « **Reply #21 on:** July 12, 2011, 03:36:40 PM »

Over the weekend I checked into what transmission I have, it is a C4 with the small bell housing on it. I like having two C4's, this way I can install a stock tranny to get it moving and have another for the rebuild and put all of the hard parts in.

This build is looking like it is going to be a 2 stage build. First I am going to put the SBF in with a stock tranny and the 9" rear. Plumb in the fuel cell and go racing. The second stage is going to be tubbed with the centerlines installed with a narrowed 9" with 4 link and 35 spline inners. Drill and tap the intake for direct nitrous injection, and rolecage the entire car.

About narrowing the 9" I will be using a car/newer rear end. You can see on the housing how it has larger gussets vs the ford truck rearends that are at a steeper angle. You can see it in the 9" housing picture. I can take some better comparative photos if anyone wants to see it.

So a little background on myself>>> I have been a machinist for 10 years and a certified welder for 12. I now specialize in CNC programing, also I am trying to get a personal 4x8 Plasma table. I hope to go into business for myself and I would like to use this car as a show piece for the types of stuff I can fabricate. You can see in the background in my photos that I have a Jeep/4x4 problem also. In our shop we have access to a VF5, TL2, TM2, Miller Tig welders and many more. We have a great shop and I hope to have one just like it some day!

don33 · « **Reply #22 on:** July 13, 2011, 02:09:29 PM »

That thing is going to be a beast. I think my build will also be a two stage affair, just kind of makes sence to do it that way. hey, I'm in fairbanks tuesdays and thursdays, would like to possibly meet up and talk about some welding I have to do... sent a PM.

Madness · « **Reply #23 on:** July 26, 2011, 06:58:34 PM »

Sweet you can start bringing me parts up from anchorage!!! :lol:

I replied to your email. I will send my phone number.

Madness · « **Reply #24 on:** July 27, 2011, 01:34:04 PM »

So... I am thinking the rear wheels are going to be to large for what I want. 15x10 or 12 I can handle but a 15x15 is huge. I hope to find someone to trade me wheels or buy them so I can get a slightly smaller set.

don33 · « **Reply #25 on:** July 27, 2011, 03:45:07 PM »

heck yeah, anything you need from Anchorage brought up to you. just let me know....

Madness · « **Reply #26 on:** August 18, 2011, 02:58:16 PM »

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I thought some 1975 plates would be fun

don33 · « **Reply #27 on:** August 19, 2011, 04:46:05 PM »

Pretty cool, can you buy those and run them with an up to date sticker on them ?

Madness · « **Reply #28 on:** August 19, 2011, 08:30:43 PM »

Yep! I thought it was pretty cool.

Madness · « **Reply #29 on:** September 01, 2011, 04:14:59 PM »

I picked this up the other weekend. I need the tranny but it looks like the 289/302 (haven't ran the casting number yet) ran really good. I might slide it in to get me roling and then I can take the time putting the cam and port and polishing my 351 heads.

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