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Re: Ford Pinto Pangra Restomod
« Reply #30 on: October 13, 2011, 05:48:19 PM »
Hey Mike, good to hear from ya... now I just need to find me a Pinto on a 4x4 frame and a Pinchero  ;D
 
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Re: Ford Pinto Pangra Restomod
« Reply #31 on: November 23, 2011, 12:09:27 PM »
Are you going to put some meshies like they used to have on em or you gonna keep those cragars?

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Re: Ford Pinto Pangra Restomod
« Reply #32 on: November 23, 2011, 12:36:01 PM »
Are you going to put some meshies like they used to have on em or you gonna keep those cragars?

I'm thinking aluminum slots

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Re: Ford Pinto Pangra Restomod
« Reply #33 on: November 27, 2011, 06:25:15 PM »
I would have to take out a loan... at 14mpg... gonna be a big loan  :o
There was ONE '74 Pinto Pangra turbo wagon built by Huntington Ford for a rich Asian Gentleman from Los Angeles, it did not have the center console or gauges, but was a "legit" Pinto Pangra. It was Orange to begin with.

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Re: Ford Pinto Pangra Restomod
« Reply #34 on: November 27, 2011, 06:29:08 PM »
Are you sure you Dad didn't get a "Factory" Pangra? I don't remember us selling ANY of the center consoles with the digital tach and gauges to customers who built their own kits. I think on may have gone to Canada (the console) but we had a real shortage of parts and kept those in reserve for the "dealer" built cars, which also got the RARE Pangra badges. I only had a few of those diecast Pangra emblems for my personal use. It was very strange seeing the pictures of myself as a youngster building the original Pangra at Frieght Container, ah those were the days.

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Re: Ford Pinto Pangra Restomod
« Reply #35 on: November 27, 2011, 08:10:21 PM »
I'm not actually positive on any of the facts on the V8 Pangra I bought this year...

son told me dad built it, dad passed a few years ago... they didn't buy it new but had it by the mid/early 70's

I know the DSO code for this one was Illinios as I recall, not a california Pinto. I have seen a few of the California Pangras in person and except the front seats it sure does look correct for a Huntington build but... when the family says it was built here and the DSO confirms it's not a California Pinto... what can I say unless someone comes forward, that worked at Huntington, to say they recall this car getting built for someone out East (Illinois or Minnesota) I gotta go with Built from a kit???

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Re: Ford Pinto Pangra Restomod
« Reply #36 on: November 28, 2011, 03:18:27 AM »
I'm not actually positive on any of the facts on the V8 Pangra I bought this year...

son told me dad built it, dad passed a few years ago... they didn't buy it new but had it by the mid/early 70's

I know the DSO code for this one was Illinios as I recall, not a california Pinto. I have seen a few of the California Pangras in person and except the front seats it sure does look correct for a Huntington build but... when the family says it was built here and the DSO confirms it's not a California Pinto... what can I say unless someone comes forward, that worked at Huntington, to say they recall this car getting built for someone out East (Illinois or Minnesota) I gotta go with Built from a kit???

I didn't do it! The only ones I touched were all 2.0 litre 4 bangers
the only substitute for cubic inches is BOOST!!!
Of course money helps too!!!  But, on the other hand the cars are just plain old COOL!

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Re: Ford Pinto Pangra Restomod
« Reply #37 on: November 28, 2011, 07:57:29 AM »
It did have a 2.0L turbo... the V8 is a recent addition

Jack Stratton has seen pics and said... never would have done a green one..

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Re: Ford Pinto Pangra Restomod
« Reply #38 on: November 28, 2011, 01:21:29 PM »
you are correct, if it was not a "California" car then Huntington Ford didn't do it and it came from a kit. We did however have a midwest dealer that could get most all if not all parts to build a Pangra, i think he was in Chicago area. LOL, yeah, Jack would be right also, i don't remember seeing ANY green Dealer built Pangras. Silver, Black, Red and Yellow seemed to be fav colors. I think a customer ordered a candy blue one, but that may have been a repaint later. I orginally did a fair amount of the builds and front end installs at Frieght Container and then moved over to Huntington Ford to Manage the Pangra project, after Jack "left" I took it over completely until it's demise. EPA and CARB put Huntington Ford OUT of the custom car business. I ended up buying a couple of the Pangras after the fact, the Gold Bee Drag Car and the Original Black dealer demo that i drove while working at Huntington Ford. My wife also had a Pangra "kit" on her Pinto (well girlfriend then) which is how i met her. No matter whether they came from Huntingtion Ford or were built from kits the Pangra's were kick butt cars :-).

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Re: Ford Pinto Pangra Restomod
« Reply #39 on: November 28, 2011, 01:35:43 PM »
We did however have a midwest dealer that could get most all if not all parts to build a Pangra, i think he was in Chicago area.

If I recall correctly... the DSO code was for Chicago... I wonder who that dealer was? I could maybe confirm the dealer that sold the car was the one doing the conversions and that would answer the question as to why it looks so correct (dash and badges) without being a California - Huntington Ford Car

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Re: Ford Pinto Pangra Restomod
« Reply #40 on: November 28, 2011, 01:47:16 PM »
I'll see if i can dig up the name somewhere, most of the records were lost/destroyed after Mr. Hoke pulled the plug on Pangra and decided to sell off the name, molds and original parts that were left. The ONLY way someone with a kit would get the emblems and dash would to  be an "authorized Pangra builder/Dealer". Jack was very smart about getting a trademark on the name and design and we kept those emblems in a locked cabinet at Huntington Ford. We also delivered a Pangra to Vel's Parnelli Jones Ford and one to a high performance Ford dealer in Phoenix Az. that was driven out there by me and used as a pace car at Manzania oval dirt track out there. The guy from Chicago was supposed to buy around 100 kit's but i think he only got 2 or 3. Frieght Container had a couple left over after the project as well which is where i got my "street " front end for the Gold Bee as it had the non functioning race front end on it when i got it. Scott at Frieght Container wanted the original prototype front end from the Gold Bee back and i traded him that and some cash for the new nose. Dang, funny how certain things bring back long forgotten memories...... ...  ;-)

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Re: Ford Pinto Pangra Restomod
« Reply #41 on: November 28, 2011, 02:55:49 PM »
I'll see if i can dig up the name somewhere

The ONLY way someone with a kit would get the emblems and dash would to  be an "authorized Pangra builder/Dealer".

it would be nice to confirm if this car was built by an authorized Pangra dealer, this is the 1st I have ever heard of someplace other than Huntington Ford to get one pre-built. I may just have to get the Marti/ fords 999 report and see if I can identify the original dealership that sold this... I have gotten the impression from the son that the car was purchased as a Pangra and they did their own mods as the years went by. The family was known for building race engines

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Re: Ford Pinto Pangra Restomod
« Reply #42 on: November 28, 2011, 05:15:02 PM »
I'm guessing this dealership built the car minus the Recaro's as they and the dash would be seperate. As you can see from the brochure  there was no mention of the dash,gauges or recaros in kit form, and we were again, very strict about badging on non "REAL" Huntington Ford built Pangras. I've tried to attach pictures of the brochure and the Gold Bee Race Car as well as the letter i sent to potential dealers. The black Pangra was my daily driver / demo car.

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Re: Ford Pinto Pangra Restomod
« Reply #43 on: November 28, 2011, 06:36:17 PM »
confirmened - Canadian built DSO code was 41 and Chicago for a destination

it's that badge and the dash kit that have me questioning the origin of this one. I know neither were available outside of Huntington Ford so how did they end up on this one. If you can remember the name of that chicago dealer.... maybe, just maybe... I can find out more ?

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Re: Ford Pinto Pangra Restomod
« Reply #44 on: November 29, 2011, 12:26:08 AM »
I'm with you, the badging and dash are a outside the norm. I have a folder on Pangra stuff, i'll see if I can find anything on authorized dealers, with Huntington Ford even gone now it's likely we may never find "documentation" on this car. But I can say that NO kit while i was there ever got a dash as that digital Tach was so rare we didn't have spares to fix any that went out in the Dealer cars and had to remove them and send out to a circuit board guru to try and get them fixed. When we started the Pangra Owners Association some of the people in the club who had kits tried to buy badges and we didn't sell any. There is only one "kit" Pangra i know of that got the badges, it was green 2door and belonged to my then girlfriend (now wife). I'd have to say as a builder, manager and seller of Pangra and Pangra parts that this car is a Dealer car. There would probably not be a "factory" window sticker, BUT, the selling Ford Dealer would have a Pangra letterhead listing all the options, costs and end price of car with options as an most did in those days when providing "extra" options like mag wheels and and sound systems and custom paint. It would be a "window Sticker" in addenum to the Factory one. This car should also have the suspension kit with koni's and a front and rear sway bar, the recommended american slot 7" mags and recommended Conti radials. Also keep in mind as with any collector car, there were "one off's" for "Friends of", which means you could get whipped cream on your hot fudge sunday if you knew the right person. Supposedly my (Huntington Ford's ) Black Demo car was the only one with the smoked rear vented windows (pain in the butt and leaked) and "fuel altered type" wing on it, but I had a friend who bought an original Pangra and i got him one thru Performance Specialties in Arcadia. We also had a Sheriff's deputy that got a silver car that we put a weber carb in place of the original motorcraft. Unfortunetly there were not very good records kept on serial numbers etc of the cars that were built. There was talk of doing a separate vin plate like Shelby's , but that never got off the ground. For all extent and purposes we GUARDED those Pangra Badges like they were Shelby vin plates and those were used to verify a "true" Pangra.

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Re: Ford Pinto Pangra Restomod
« Reply #45 on: November 29, 2011, 05:56:31 AM »
Cookie - Very cool you are getting first hand info on your car !
Wish I could track down the builder of mine !

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Re: Ford Pinto Pangra Restomod
« Reply #46 on: November 29, 2011, 08:05:29 AM »
This car should also have the suspension kit with koni's and a front and rear sway bar, the recommended american slot 7" mags and recommended Conti radials.

With the rear end swap and the V8 installed I know the rear springs have been replaced and any front sway bar had to be removed and the front end looks to have been raised for the wrap under headers and milodon oil pan clearance. Unlikely the Coni shocks have stayed with the car but have the 2 best pics of the shocks front and rear posted.
 
This was another interesting item, similar to the badge and dash.... I have 4 slots that were original with the car. 2 of the tires have been replaced but the other 2 are Continenials. The wheels have a "shelby" centercap?

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Re: Ford Pinto Pangra Restomod
« Reply #47 on: November 29, 2011, 12:11:44 PM »
George Davis : We need to talk. I just sent you a personal message here on FP.com
I have many Pintos, I like them....
#1. 1979 Wagon V6 Restored
#2. 1977 Wagon V6 Restored
#3. 1980 Sedan I4 Original
#4. 1974 Pangra Wagon I4 Turbo
#5. 1980 Wagon I4 Restored
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...Like i said, I like them.
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Re: Ford Pinto Pangra Restomod
« Reply #48 on: November 29, 2011, 01:03:48 PM »
that sounds correct, some had Shelby center caps some had American center caps, we bought them from a local speed shop in Arcadia on Balwin Blvd.

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Re: Ford Pinto Pangra Restomod
« Reply #49 on: November 29, 2011, 01:17:16 PM »
some had Shelby center caps some had American center caps....

gads! I was happy just thinking this was built from a kit...

NOW! I have to know the true details (haha) on where this car came from and who / where was it built!

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Re: Ford Pinto Pangra Restomod
« Reply #50 on: November 29, 2011, 01:24:09 PM »
I'm with you, I think your car is pretty rare and it would be cool to find original build details.
I would LOVE to find my former "Gold Bee" Dealer race car. Good luck and if i hear/find anything else out about your car i'll sure let you know, like wise if you do, please let me know!!

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Re: Ford Pinto Pangra Restomod
« Reply #51 on: November 29, 2011, 02:05:47 PM »
Supposedly my (Huntington Ford's ) Black Demo car was the only one with the smoked rear vented windows (pain in the butt and leaked) and "fuel altered type" wing on it....

I think you may want to talk with Brad (turbopinto72)

(his profile = http://www.fordpinto.com/profile/?u=12 )

I think one of his Pangra's had a wing mounted on it at one time and is supposed to be an "early" pangra, maybe the one you are talking about....

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« Reply #52 on: November 29, 2011, 03:08:14 PM »
Thanks, Brad and I have chatted and i am 99.99% sure his car was my/Huntington Ford's Dealer Demo car that we used to take customers up on the 210 fwy and scare the snot out of them with. In the case of "TRUE" disclosure, i have to admit, it was VERY much breathed on and in fact did 147 at the then new Ontario speedway with i believe Swede Savage driving it. It had more boost and a teaked A.K.Miller 2 liter(yeah well over bored) in it. It was the car most used in testing and magazine articles for Pangra. Were most stock Pangra's pushed about 250 hp this one was close to 350hp. When i last owned it in the Late 70's, early 80's, it had nitrous. First owner it had that i know of was John Giles from Irvine, he sold it too me, i had to sell to guy from Alhambra, then i bought it back and it then went to I believe the Los Angeles area. lost track after that.

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Re: Ford Pinto Pangra Restomod
« Reply #53 on: November 29, 2011, 03:10:20 PM »
Brian,
 
Do the Mardi Auto Works report on the car. I did and it confirmed it was a H. F. ordered car.
I have many Pintos, I like them....
#1. 1979 Wagon V6 Restored
#2. 1977 Wagon V6 Restored
#3. 1980 Sedan I4 Original
#4. 1974 Pangra Wagon I4 Turbo
#5. 1980 Wagon I4 Restored
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...Like i said, I like them.
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Re: Ford Pinto Pangra Restomod
« Reply #54 on: November 29, 2011, 06:50:56 PM »
Brian,
 
Do the Mardi Auto Works report on the car.

done, ordered the deluxe report

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« Reply #56 on: November 30, 2011, 12:49:03 AM »
that sounds correct, some had Shelby center caps some had American center caps, we bought them from a local speed shop in Arcadia on Balwin Blvd.

If I remember correctly; the tires / wheels were sourced from Performance Specialties.
 
Brian, can you get a 'good' shot of the tread on those Continentals? 
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Of course money helps too!!!  But, on the other hand the cars are just plain old COOL!

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« Reply #57 on: November 30, 2011, 12:55:41 AM »
I'm with you, I think your car is pretty rare and it would be cool to find original build details.
I would LOVE to find my former "Gold Bee" Dealer race car. Good luck and if i hear/find anything else out about your car i'll sure let you know, like wise if you do, please let me know!!

I want to find the blue Bonneville car or, the motor that was in it  (there is a pic of the motor in one of the 'files' here on the site)
the only substitute for cubic inches is BOOST!!!
Of course money helps too!!!  But, on the other hand the cars are just plain old COOL!

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« Reply #58 on: November 30, 2011, 09:19:28 AM »

If I remember correctly; the tires / wheels were sourced from Performance Specialties.
 
Brian, can you get a 'good' shot of the tread on those Continentals? 

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« Reply #59 on: November 30, 2011, 09:26:40 AM »
tire/ wheel combo looks correct from here.


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