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Fastest Pinto?
« on: June 16, 2003, 10:24:18 PM »
Does anyone know what is the fastest pinto ever made?
I'm in the begining processes of trying to earn that title.
I am building a 76 wagon into a high to mid 6 second pro-mod.
I plan to chop the top three inches, clean up the body (lots of shaving),  completely tube frame it, add a four link rear and wheel tubs, wedge in a pro-stock 460 ci from Ford Racing, hook it up with a mean auto trans turning a ford 9 inch, as well as lots of safety add-ons.

It should go very very fast...
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Re:Fastest Pinto?
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2003, 09:24:30 PM »
 :o I have two words, holy shizod. but one more thing, why on earth a wagon, if your looking for speed, then you should be more consiensious on weight. a sedan or hatch-back with a full window would work best.   ::)
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Re:Fastest Pinto?
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2003, 04:21:21 PM »
my dad once told me about a racer who did 1/4 mile racers all over the usa, named "grumpy jenkins" he raced his pinto and was claimed "the fastest 4 cylinder in the world"  on the 1/4 mile it was about like early 8's. which was spectacular in the 70's..
 but i cant find any information on his pinto.. only his vega... but my dad swears it was him and said he seen it in an old issue of hot rod magazine.. but i dont know.. maybe he is being wierd...
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Re:Fastest Pinto?
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2003, 07:23:43 PM »
I would be using a wagon if I were you also. If you have ever been at the end of a 1/4 Mi track in the 120's with slicks aired to 6lbs you would know what I mean. Its a wild ride with a short wheel base. ;D
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Re:Fastest Pinto?
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2003, 12:32:21 PM »
The fastest Pinto I could find in the 1/4 mile was in 1973.It was Al Hanna's Eastern Raider Funny Car it ran a 6.480 at 224.50 mph
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Re:Fastest Pinto?
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2003, 02:18:47 PM »
ohh my god!
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« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2003, 02:13:38 PM »
Don't forget Mickey Thompsons 2 Pinto AA/FC's that he ran in the early 70's, one driven by Danny Ongias (On the gas, as he was known). Hate to say, never heard of the Grump EVER running anything but GM products. Are ya sure that wasn't Buddy Ingersol with the worlds fastest 4 cylinder Pinto? I remember seeing Buddy get the car to run a 9.98 before NHRA factored the car out of existance. Them Buddy just went with Buic and ran a turbocharged Regal for a while. "Dyno" Don Nickolson and Bob Glidden both ran Pinto Pro Stockers back in the mid 70's, then moved on to Mustangs in the late 70's. I think that yer right about Al Hanna being the quickest, I hear rumors of a jet powered Pinto, but still no proof.

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« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2003, 11:37:04 PM »
 PLEASE FIND PROOF!!!
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« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2003, 01:15:30 PM »
actually Mickey Thompson only had 1 driver for the Pinto's,it was Dale Pulde.Ongais,I believe quit the team right before running the Pinto's.Pro stock drivers that should be in there too are Ken Dondero who drove for Nicholson,Wayne Gapp and of Nascar fame Jack Rousch.
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« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2003, 04:44:58 PM »
Actually, Danny quit after making 2 runs in the Pinto, then went to run Indy cars after that. Dale is still a crewchief/advisor for several T/F and F/C cars out there.

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« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2003, 06:41:52 PM »
here is a link to a story from Dale Pulde,kind of a cool picture too.
http://www.draglist.com/stories/SOD-Jan-2003/SOD-011103.htm
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« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2003, 11:43:15 AM »
Does anyone know anything about the afore mentioned Jet Pinto? :o
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« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2003, 10:45:41 AM »
Hi guys. New member here. I found the forum through the link to my site for the Dale Pulde story. I run a website called Draglist.com that lists best stats and info on over 50,000 drag racing teams going back to 1949. After reading this post, I scanned the site for info on Pintos and thought I'd add a little here.

The Al Hanna 6.48 nitro run is going to be hard to top unless you have a full out Pro Mod car. There are a few other guys running Pintos recently that are tough as nails, though, and will make your job very hard indeed.

One guy is Missouri's Rick Pope, who went 7.67 at 183 in a Pro Street Pinto in 2001. The other is Mark Walker and the Texas Ranger outlaw Pro Mod car. Mark runs on the eighth mile, but his 4.40 best translates to roughly a 6.77 quarter mile time.

The Ford Pintos had the most success in NHRA Pro Stock, with racers like Bob Glidden, Gapp and Roush (yes, JACK Roush), and Dyno Don Nicholson beating the Chevies and Mopars with Cleveland powered killers. Grumpy Jenkins never ran a Ford Pinto -- he was Chevy all the way (in Pro Stock at least). His Inferior Chevy Vega ushered in the era of small block, tube framed Pro Stock cars in 1972 and dominated. A year later, the Ford Pintos took over as the top dogs with the better breathing 351s. It was a neat time for Pro Stock.

The best Pro Stock times I know of for Ford Pintos were a pair of 8.35s recorded in match race trim (lighter weight than legal) by Gapp & Roush and Minnesota racer Jerry Hemmingson (who has moved to the Carolinas and makes transmissions now).

I don't show any listings for a jet or rocket powered Pinto, but I may just have missed that.

If you get a chance, come on over to draglist.com, enter "Pinto" in the on-site search engine, and kick back for some good reading. We have over 8,000 pages of info and Ford Pintos definitely have their place in drag racing history. bp

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« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2003, 10:52:43 AM »
Oops... I missed a guy. While taking my own advice and entering "Pinto" into the on-site Google search engine at draglist.com, I discovered that Ben Jones went a 7.85 at 175 in an IHRA Mountain Motor Pinto Pro Stock car. bp

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« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2003, 12:17:04 PM »
welcome to the site! Thanks for the info, i'll see about putting the link in our Links section.   Jeff
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« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2003, 03:23:20 PM »
Welcome,I use your site quite often,keep up the good work
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« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2003, 03:40:13 PM »
I think another one worth mentioning is Mike Moran's Pinto wagon.  He drove it in Hot Rod Magazine's fastest street car competition in the early/mid '90s, before switching over to a Camaro.
I don't remember the exact times or speeds, but he was running in the 8's with a small block.  

Well, I looked through some of my old magazines, and all I could find on Moran's pinto was he had a 425ci engine, and he ran a 9.24@122 at Memphis in '94.  Obviously he was on the brakes for that run.
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« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2003, 09:02:11 PM »
welcome to the site! Thanks for the info, i'll see about putting the link in our Links section.   Jeff

Thanks, Jeff! I appreciate it! I'll be sure to get your site up on our links page, too. bp

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« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2003, 09:04:50 PM »
Welcome,I use your site quite often,keep up the good work

Thanks, gpinto2! I appreciate it. I had a high school pal who had a Pinto back in the 70s. He had it pretty tricked out for the time, even with the four cylinder in it. Who knew that he was on the cutting edge back then!   ;) bp

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« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2003, 09:13:20 PM »
Well I guess that i have some numbers to shoot for and some hands to get greasy.
Hope I can do it, wish me luck ;)
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« Reply #20 on: November 05, 2003, 09:26:25 PM »
Good call on Moran, Straw Boss. I was at work earlier, so I couldn't fully search my listings. Here at home, I pulled together a list of all the quickest Ford Pintos in drag history, regardless of class. Quickest all time: Al Hanna's Eastern Raider nitro flopper. Quickest blown alcohol flopper: Glenn Lazzar's Funny Farmer. That car was a killer in NHRA Division 1. Quickest legal Pro Stock: no surprise -- Bob Glidden, who coaxed an 8.27 out of his Pinto just before NHRA went to the 500 inch deal. Quickest mountain motor Pro Stock: Ben Jones, as noted earlier at 7.85. Quickest doorslammer overall: Rick Pope, with the aforementioned 7.67. I only included quarter mile times, so Mr. Walker Texas Ranger is not included... Surprise names: John Lingenfelter, Jeg Coughlin (Sr.), and Jack Roush himself! Enjoy! bp

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 6.480 224.50 Al Hanna 473 KB Eastern Raider Pinto AAFC 1973
 6.575 215.82 Dale Pulde 482 Chry Mickey Thompson Pinto AAFC 1972
 6.580 209.79 Bob Parmer 426 Chry Bad Habit Pinto AAFC 1984
 6.590 213.27 Bob Pacitto 392 Chry Bob Pacitto Pinto AAFC 1971
 6.745 206.00 Doc Halladay 392 Chry Cox/Bill Schifsky Pinto AAFC 1974
 6.750 209.79 Rick Ramsey 392 Chry California Chargers Pinto AAFC 1971
 6.800 218.33 Mike Van Sant 426 Chry Stone, Woods & Cook Pinto AAFC 1971
 6.820 201.79 Gary Southerland 392 Chry Gary Southerland Pinto AAFC 1971
 6.825 201.34 Glenn Lazzar 510 Chev Funny Farmer Pinto BBFC 1974
 6.870 212.26 David Ray 426 Chry Stone, Woods & Cook Pinto AAFC 1971
 6.940 198.23 Bob Hankins 392 Chry Blue Blazer Pinto AAFC 1971
 6.955 210.75 Gary Densham 392 Chry Walker-Densham Pinto AAFC 1973

 7.073 211.26 Bob Larimore 426 Chry Speed Industries Pinto AAFC 1977
 7.080 190.67 Gene Modlin 392 Chry West Coast Gambler Pinto BBFC 1975
 7.180 200.95 Ron Williams 426 Chry Shakey Pinto AAFC 1973
 7.310 198.23 Jim Lynch Jim Lynch Pinto BBFC 1977
 7.315 188.50 Rune Fjeld Chry Wrangler Pinto BBFC 1978
 7.400 183.29 Dick Titsworth 392 Chry Seaport Automotive Pinto AFC 1973
 7.545 187.80 Jack Wyatt 480 Milo Strange Connection Pinto BBFC 1979
 7.600 179.00 Jim Wigglesworth Chry Midnite Express Pinto BBFC 1974
 7.670 183.12 Rick Pope 632 Chev Rick Pope Pinto PST 2001
 7.810 186.00 Drake Viscome 442 Ford Vindicator Pinto AFC 1973
 7.840 154.90 Bruce Thompson The Ripper Pinto BBFC 1975
 7.856 175.78 Ben Jones 672 Ford Ben Jones Pinto PRO 1989

 8.275 162.42 Bob Glidden 366 Ford Bob Glidden Pinto PRO 1978
 8.320 162.66 Wayne Gapp 429 Ford Gapp & Roush Pinto PRO 1977
 8.345 171.43 Sam Howard Chry Homewrecker Pinto BBFC 1979
 8.350 160.42 Ken Dondero 429 Ford Gapp & Roush Pinto PRO 1977
 8.355 162.45 Jerry Hemmingson 366 Ford Jerry Hemmingson Pinto PRO 1980
 8.450 161.57 Carl Holbrook 500 Ford Holbrook Enterprises Pinto PRO 1985
 8.470 162.45 Jay Gage 392 Chry Quarter Horse Pinto AFC 1972
 8.554 158.69 Scott Bieschice Ford Scott Bieschice Pinto Wagon SST 2001
 8.600 159.77 Mike Moran 416 Ford Mike Moran Pinto PST 1993
 8.600 157.61 Gordy Frank 429 Ford Gordy Frank Pinto PRO 1982
 8.630 155.41 Art Gravatt 357 Ford Dennis Paint & Body Pinto PRO 1978
 8.695 154.95 Jeff Wittig 351 Ford Jeff Wittig Pinto PRO 1981
 8.700 154.10 Leroy Roeder 351 Ford Leroy Roeder Pinto PRO 1978
 8.710 152.80 Larry Ford 351 Ford Ford & Kaase Pinto PRO 1976
 8.760 157.84 Lee Hunter 366 Ford Lee Hunter Pinto PRO 1976
 8.790 152.69 Frank Parker 366 Ford Ross & Parker Pinto PRO 1980
 8.810 145.74 Floyd Williams 351 Ford MacEwen & Williams Pinto PRO 1975
 8.815 157.00 Ernie MacEwen 351 Ford MacEwen & Williams Pinto PRO 1975
 8.820 154.90 Jack Roush 351 Ford Gapp & Roush Pinto PRO 1974
 8.830 150.75 Mike Rendel 351 Ford Rental Marts Inc Pinto PRO 1979
 8.840 153.06 Rich Haubold 351 Ford Godzilla Pinto PRO 1980
 8.850 151.77 Phil Gingerich 351 Ford Pabst Blue Ribbon Pinto PRO 1978
 8.860 152.02 Jim Van Cleave 351 Ford Van Cleave Ford Pinto PRO 1980
 8.860 147.75 Steve Lynett 351 Ford Steve Lynett Pinto PRO 1972
 8.865 153.50 Virgil Brunner 351 Ford Brunner Bros Pinto PRO 1978
 8.870 154.37 Gary Coe 366 Ford Pinker & Aldridge Pinto PRO 1975
 8.870 154.37 Roosevelt Johnson 351 Ford Roosevelt Johnson Pinto PRO 1979
 8.870 153.79 Tom Chase 351 Ford Pinker & Aldridge Pinto PRO 1977
 8.879 154.51 Jean Batteaux 366 Ford Jean Batteaux Pinto PRO 1979
 8.940 146.81 Jack Schorr 351 Ford Jack Schorr Pinto PRO 1976
 8.980 153.58 Doug Wood 351 Ford Gary Pinker Pinto PRO 1975

 9.015 150.50 Don Nicholson 351 Ford Dyno Don/Kendig Pinto PRO 1974
 9.020 148.76 Mark Seamon 351 Ford Mark Seamon Pinto PRO 1972
 9.050 150.05 Don Grotheer 351 Ford Don Grotheer Pinto PRO 1973
 9.050 145.81 Sam Auxier Jr 351 Ford Sam Auxier Pinto PRO 1971
 9.055 148.76 Jim Feurer 351 Ford Animal Jim Feurer Pinto PRO 1978
 9.060 151.00 Hubert Platt 351 Ford Georgia Shaker Pinto PRO 1973
 9.060 150.00 Jerry Miller 351 Ford Hiner & Miller Pinto PRO 1975
 9.080 147.78 Gary Dodd 351 Ford Gary Dodd Pinto PRO 1980
 9.120 147.05 Paul Peyton 351 Ford Peyton Chassis Pinto PRO 1973
 9.125 149.50 Irv Beringhaus 351 Ford Irv Beringhaus Pinto PRO 1974
 9.149 147.29 John Lingenfelter 366 Ford Lingenfelter & Meyer Pinto PRO 1974
 9.160 149.50 Rick Barratt 366 Ford Rick Barratt Pinto PRO 1973
 9.180 154.00 Dave Lyall 351 Ford Detrick & Lyall Pinto PRO 1973
 9.180 151.00 Doc Dixon 351 Ford Doc Dixon Pinto PRO 1975
 9.185 147.68 Arlen Fadely 327 Ford Fadely & Hinzmann Pinto CA 1974
 9.200 148.02 John Healy 351 Ford John Healy Pinto PRO 1971
 9.200 147.78 Fred Turner 351 Ford Dixie Pinto Pinto PRO 1976
 9.200 146.18 Junior Brogden 351 Ford Junior Brogden Pinto PRO 1976
 9.200 145.86 Bill McDaniel 351 Ford Bill McDaniel Pinto PRO 1972
 9.220 147.49 Larry Broga 351 Ford Bill Innes Racing Pinto PRO 1974
 9.220 145.16 Al Joniec 351 Ford FRE Pinto PRO 1974
 9.250 148.41 Jeg Coughlin 351 Ford Jeg's Automotive Pinto PRO 1974
 9.305 147.54 Bobby Rowe 351 Ford Jeg's Automotive Pinto PRO 1974
 9.320 137.00 Art Suiter 461 Ford Motion Industries Pinto PRO 1975
 9.360 145.60 Barrie Poole 351 Ford Sandy Elliott Ford Pinto PRO 1972
 9.410 143.00 Hank Storbeck 366 Ford Hank Storbeck Pinto PRO 1977
 9.490 141.93 Bill Lawton 351 Ford Besch & Healey Pinto PRO 1973
 9.500 143.72 Dick Brannan 351 Ford Dick Brannan Pinto PRO 1972
 9.504 145.00 Bob Doerr 366 Ford Bob Doerr Pinto PRO 1977
 9.670 141.73 Dave Atkins 366 Chev Dave Atkins Pinto PRO 1973
 9.690 146.41 Doug Skyles 351 Ford Doug Skyles Pinto PRO 1972
 9.720 145.96 Jack Mezzomo 351 Ford Jack Mezzomo Pinto PRO 1972

10.040 141.26 Jack Flash 351 Ford Jack Flash Pinto PRO 1971
10.150 139.72 Larry Yates 351 Ford Larry Yates Pinto PRO 1972
10.230 138.73 Dave Van Luke 351 Ford Dave Van Luke Pinto PRO 1976
10.355 130.65 Clayton Graham 351 Ford Clayton Graham Pinto PRO 1975

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« Reply #21 on: November 05, 2003, 10:15:51 PM »
Nice Job on the list!!!! ;D
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« Reply #22 on: November 05, 2003, 10:20:11 PM »
Well I guess that i have some numbers to shoot for and some hands to get greasy.
Hope I can do it, wish me luck ;)

Good luck, underdog. Hey.. one thing I noticed when I printed this thing is that the quickest cars don't have Fords in them. That includes most of the funnies (who ran blown Hemis) and even Rick Pope, who has a Chevy in it  >:(

So... looks like the time you have to beat is the 7.85 by Ben Jones... that's the quickest Ford powered doorslammer run. Drake Viscombe did go 7.81 with a Ford powered funny car... bp

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« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2003, 10:21:12 PM »
Nice Job on the list!!!! ;D

Thanks! Glad to be here. bp

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« Reply #24 on: November 06, 2003, 12:27:05 AM »
wow, thats an awesome list!  thanks  one thing, you forgot my car!

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Re:Fastest Pinto?
« Reply #25 on: November 06, 2003, 02:57:14 AM »
A big thank you from me also for that list!

Underdog, it looks like you have some serious work ahead to get on the list.  Good luck!  
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« Reply #26 on: November 06, 2003, 03:34:10 AM »
there was a pro mod pinto here (in texas) that i seen last year called the texas ranger i think it ran a 4.2-4.5 et (1/8m) havent seen it any more he couldnt qualify with the bigger boyz....
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Re:Fastest Pinto?
« Reply #27 on: November 06, 2003, 11:28:46 PM »
wow, thats an awesome list!  thanks  one thing, you forgot my car!

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Hey, didn't forget ya... we just list the pro and quicker semipro cars at draglist.com. BUT... you can add your car to our internet racers list. Go up to draglist.com and click the Add Your Machine link from the Drag Racing Lists page. bp

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Re:Fastest Pinto?
« Reply #28 on: November 06, 2003, 11:30:27 PM »
there was a pro mod pinto here (in texas) that i seen last year called the texas ranger i think it ran a 4.2-4.5 et (1/8m) havent seen it any more he couldnt qualify with the bigger boyz....

Hey, FatHeadInc... we mentioned the Texas Ranger Pinto in our first post... he runs the eighth mile so didn't make this list. We show a best of 4.40 for him, which translates to about a 6.77 quarter. He needs to get that thing out there so we can list a nice quarter mile time... bp

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« Reply #29 on: November 08, 2003, 09:59:03 PM »
well I see that the fastest time (currently ;)) is Al Hanna with his 6.48 in a flopper. but I also noticed that there is no time under 7.0 since 1984. Thats just somethin we'll have to remedy is'nt it? :D
 I was suprised to find Gary Densham on that list. Kinda cool that he ran one. The way I see it current promods are runnin low 6.0s with one 5.9 thrown in by Jimmy Rector, so with todays technology
a pinto should be in there runnin with the big boys.  ;D
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