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Re: 1976 Wagon with 308.000 miles!
« Reply #60 on: July 31, 2008, 07:39:27 AM »
:welcome: mikerich1972,
 Does your Pinto happen to be one made in Canada that the odometer rolls on Kilometers instead of miles?
Just a question... Not trying to be a wise guy...
30-32 would be phenomenal mpg for a 2.3.
 Most Pinto owners do not even know there is a difference between the two odometers.
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Re: 1976 Wagon with 308.000 miles!
« Reply #61 on: July 31, 2008, 01:24:09 PM »
Its between the Germany and France, you can get to it by crossing the English channel! Any idiot knows that!  :lol:

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Re: 1976 Wagon with 308.000 miles!
« Reply #62 on: August 30, 2008, 03:45:09 PM »
Well, the old wagon now has 310,895 miles, still gets 32 MPG highway, 25-26 MPG in town!!

Who can complain about the little Ford that wasn't supposed to survive more than a few years?

I don't remeber for sure if I answered the question about the odometer possibly reading out kilometers. Anyway, here it is: NO, it is absolutely an American car, reading in miles. I have changed the wheels and tires to 14 inch to reduce the engine RPM on the freeway. (This car was only geared to run at 55 MPH). This has helped my highway mileage somewhat, as it allowed me to run at highway speeds with the throttle butterfly more closed. The side-affect is that the secondary butterfly is NOT opening 'till I want it to!!
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Re: 1976 Wagon with 308.000 miles!
« Reply #63 on: September 26, 2008, 04:35:50 PM »
 Just an FYI...

 The old Pinto now has 311,149 miles on the odometer. We are taking it to Idaho and Montana this next week for a great time in a lake-front cabin!

 It still runs great, adn doesn't worry me one bit to take it across the Continental divide!!!
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Re: 1976 Wagon with 308.000 miles!
« Reply #64 on: September 29, 2008, 09:05:34 PM »
Congratulation s on passing 300,000 miles. I am currently driving my 7th Pinto. It is the lowest mileage car I have ever owned, with 84,400 showing. I'm the third owner. It was bought new in '78 by a family friends father, when he died in '86 it had 23,000 miles, his daughter inhereted it and drove it till '97 when the water pump went out and it overheated. She took it to a mechanic and they told her it had a blown head gasket or a cracked head. She didn't want to spend much on it so she parked it in her back yard. I tried to get the car from her in '98 while I was still driving my 200,000 mile '75 hatchback, but she didn't want to part with it for sentimental reasons. She finally gave it to me in '03, I changed the timing belt, oil, spark plugs, water pump and rebuilt the carburetor and it has been trouble free for 5 years. I only average about 25 mpg with the 2.3 and 4 speed though.
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Re: 1976 Wagon with 308.000 miles!
« Reply #65 on: December 11, 2008, 04:38:18 PM »
 Well, the old Pinto still hasn't died!! I am now rolling onto 312,700 miles!

 The oil pressure in these old 2.3's simply amazes me. It still holds at 55 PSI highway, and about 30 PSI at idle. I DO have a spare built, so I'm running it as long as it's reliable.

 All I've really done to the car is general maintenance. I had the rear and rebuilt; new bearings and seals, about 6 years ago. I rebuilt and replaced a bad head, but I believe the engine is completely original other than that!! I replaced the stock oil in the tranny and rear with synthetic oil (this is a four-speed stick!) to reduce the cold weather problems associated with that (Translated: better fuel economy in the winter). 
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Re: 1976 Wagon with 308.000 miles!
« Reply #66 on: May 03, 2009, 03:31:58 PM »
LATEST UPDATE:   The old Pinto wagon now has 314,550 miles on the odometer!

 I recently ran a compression check on this old engine, thinking it surely has some terrible blow-by, etc. The old engine tested out at: 162, 155, 158, and 150 PSI (cylinders 1 through 4). It still runs maybe as good as new, and is getting over 30 MPG. Totally amazing!!

 I'll continue to keep you good folks posted on my progress wiht keeping this classic on the road and out of the wrecking yard....
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Re: 1976 Wagon with 308.000 miles!
« Reply #67 on: September 11, 2009, 05:58:11 PM »
 Well, the old Pinto still runs great at 316,460 miles!

 I will drive it into Montana and Idaho next month.
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Re: 1976 Wagon with 308.000 miles!
« Reply #68 on: September 12, 2009, 02:07:53 AM »
Sounds like a winner to me!!! :surprised:

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Re: 1976 Wagon with 308.000 miles!
« Reply #69 on: October 15, 2009, 09:30:08 PM »
 Well, we took the old Pinto into Idaho and Montana last week. No problem. It now has just over 318,100 miles! And all of this is on wht I believe to be an original engine. All I've done is swapped the head, due to a major valve problem.

 The oil pressure is dropped a bit in the last year, but still runs at a respectable 50 PSI highway, 25 idle.
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Re: 1976 Wagon with 308.000 miles!
« Reply #70 on: October 19, 2009, 02:44:19 PM »
Awesome, Mike. I think it's great that you are getting so much mileage out of it - this is really testament to how durable and well-built the cars were (and are)!

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Re: 1976 Wagon with 308.000 miles!
« Reply #71 on: January 24, 2010, 10:04:51 PM »
The old Pinto wagon is still running strong at 319,815 miles as of today! We plan on taking it about 150 miles north, to Spokane this next weekend. No problem.  ;D

I have only experienced a problem wiht keeping good spark plugs in it. I have been running Bosch platinums for about a year now, but even those seem to fail. Before that, I went through several sets of Autolite platinums, and numorous sets of regular plugs.

They don't really fail catastrophical ly, they simply misfire! Talk about a nightmare to find which plug.....

However, I have come up with an easy way to find a bad plug, or plug wire. I have an infrered thermometer, so I now use that to find the mis-firing plug really fast! I set the carb to fast idle and wiat a few minutes, Then I can easily see the lower exhaust temperature on the affected cylinder!! 

I have always liked EASY!
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Re: 1976 Wagon with 308.000 miles!
« Reply #72 on: January 24, 2010, 10:10:20 PM »
Thought I would post photos of the old, high-mileage Pinto.
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Re: 1976 Wagon with 308.000 miles!
« Reply #73 on: January 24, 2010, 10:12:34 PM »
Looks great!! Looks like Joe's in Morgan Hills car!!!
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Re: 1976 Wagon with 308.000 miles!
« Reply #74 on: January 24, 2010, 10:13:06 PM »
I'm glad she's still running strong for you Mike! Could it be something besides the spark plug though? Like a spark plug wire or bad cylinder?
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Re: 1976 Wagon with 308.000 miles!
« Reply #75 on: January 24, 2010, 10:14:17 PM »
different grilles Kimmy! lol.
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Re: 1976 Wagon with 308.000 miles!
« Reply #76 on: January 24, 2010, 10:17:40 PM »
different grilles Kimmy! lol.

LOL, I didn't look that close!!
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Re: 1976 Wagon with 308.000 miles!
« Reply #77 on: February 06, 2010, 09:50:27 PM »
Not much chance of the problem being a plug wire. I often check the ignition system with my indcutive timing light, which also checks the wires the way I kook it up.

Thanks, though!
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Re: 1976 Wagon with 308.000 miles!
« Reply #78 on: February 07, 2010, 08:57:47 PM »
Impressive to see it still going, Mike!

I'm going to trade mine in at 100,000 miles  :lol: not.

Are you using the dielectric grease on the plug boots when you mess with them? I don't know if you can tell if you're losing juice there. Just a thought...

Also, are they fouling? or are the insulators crumbling? How many miles do you get out of your plugs? I've been through 2 sets in 17k miles. They're usually black/sooty ( my car runs a bit rich) The first set the insulators on 2 broke when I took them out. I'm using Splitfire plugs right now, they seem to be holding up ok.



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Re: 1976 Wagon with 308.000 miles!
« Reply #79 on: February 11, 2010, 01:12:06 AM »
Nice to see someone having good luck with their Pinto. Since 2006 I have put maybe 50 miles on mine, and everything has gone wrong on it. If you combine your & my Pinto we got a normal car lol
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Re: 1976 Wagon with 308.000 miles!
« Reply #80 on: February 20, 2010, 06:32:53 PM »
Wow, R4pinto !!!!

 Sorry to hear about the bad luck with yours..... I have driven mine almost daily for, well it will be 22 years in May! I bought the car with about 97,000 on the odometer, so I've put on most of the miles now.

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Re: 1976 Wagon with 308.000 miles!
« Reply #81 on: February 21, 2010, 08:58:32 PM »
Thanks Mike... I am hoping to have some better luck with her after it warms up & I get her fixed.
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Re: 1976 Wagon with 308.000 miles!
« Reply #82 on: March 18, 2010, 06:59:07 PM »
The latest on the high-mile Wagon......

 I am now putting the original emblems back on the hood, tailgate, and dash. I removed them years ago, to simply get a few smiles and curious looks from others (I replaced the tailgate and dashboard emblems with FIREBIRD). I think it's time to get it back into great original condition for the car show season. We are constantly being asked about this car, so why not let others enjoy it too?   :smile:

 We have a local show called "Cool Desert Nights" that we usually attend and show one of our Pontiacs. This is no small affair... it averages over 500 entries! Last year, we were reminded that we could cruise anything we want, as long as we have a vehicle registered for the show! This year, the Pinto will definitely do the Friday night cruising!!!

 The car now has slightly over 321,000 (actually 321,081) ORIGINAL miles, and I see no mechanical problems in the engine yet!   :surprised:    No worries, though. I rebuilt another 2.3 and have it waiting for the inevitable engine swap, when that day finally arrives!
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« Reply #83 on: March 22, 2010, 08:51:54 PM »
 I got stopped today by a guy in a 1951 Chevy panel. He had followed me for about 5 blocks, apparently admiring my Pinto! He asked the usual questions about the paint, and its age. When I told him of the high original miles and that it's driven daily, he just about fainted.

 Funny thing, though. For a guy in his late forties, he had no idea what it was until he read the emblems on the car!! I guess maybe more of those Chevy guys still need to be educated.  :welcome:
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Re: 1976 Wagon with 308.000 miles!
« Reply #84 on: March 22, 2010, 09:33:38 PM »
When I told him of the high original miles and that it's driven daily, he just about fainted.

I get that too... but not from a Pinto. I have a chev lumina mini-van with 392,000 miles confirmed on the original drive train, 3 previous owners are known and motor still runs strong enough to have towed one of my cars home last year on a dolly, 200+ mile trip. My kid is the current driver and it still looks ok. funny thing is... it's the daily driver that has needed the least amout of work/repairs in the last year or more...

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« Reply #85 on: November 07, 2010, 09:27:44 PM »
FYI: The old Ponto just turned over 326,000 miles this weekend!!  Still runs great on the original block.
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« Reply #86 on: November 07, 2010, 09:41:39 PM »
Very good Mike!
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Re: 1976 Wagon with 308.000 miles!
« Reply #87 on: November 07, 2010, 09:50:53 PM »
Sounds like your Ford might have a little Timex blood in it... takes a lickin' and keeps on tickin'!
 
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« Reply #88 on: December 12, 2010, 03:58:08 PM »
Still running great at 326,650 miles!!!
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« Reply #89 on: January 11, 2011, 08:48:49 PM »
Sounds like your Ford might have a little Timex blood in it... takes a lickin' and keeps on tickin'!
 
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Or energizer batteries... They keep going, & going, & going......  ;D
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