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Title: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: oldeguy on January 29, 2011, 10:37:51 PM
heres a few pics....
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: oldeguy on January 29, 2011, 10:54:45 PM
now the donor...
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Post by: Bigtimmay on January 29, 2011, 10:58:06 PM
i want those tail lights! LOL ive been wanting to put cougar tails on my bobcat for a while now
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Post by: oldeguy on January 30, 2011, 02:23:04 PM
i see a little lock on the side of my posting...what is this about?
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: Bigtimmay on January 30, 2011, 06:47:23 PM
Its so you can lock it if you want
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Post by: oldeguy on January 30, 2011, 08:26:37 PM
i want those tail lights! LOL ive been wanting to put cougar tails on my bobcat for a while now
I did want to use 69 camaro lights...it was just way to difficult, next choice was the 65 T bird lights, but could not find any in the juck yards, but i found cougar lights. The reason for the bigger lights was to be see!
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: oldeguy on January 30, 2011, 08:35:20 PM
A little history... if anyone care to read it.   
Purchased this Pinto in Englewood, CO in September1978. This was a special trip just to buy and bring back a clean rust free car to Ohio. BTW, by 1978 I logged over 150K miles on all my previous Pinto’s (71 1600, which I converted to a 2.8 l v6 and my 73 2.0l wagon all 4 spd cars) This 72 Pinto is a 2 liter 4 spd car with factory air with yellow paint and white and black(?) interior. Drove it back to Ohio and started to create my hot rod Pinto.
The vision was to have a Camel GT handling turbo powered Pinto streetcar that looked cool and would kick butt. My turbo options were to do the 2.0 from scratch or the new 2.3 mustang turbo engine. I selected the 2.3 because it was a standard complete package that would bolt up the 2.0 transmission and only required new motor mounts...sound ed like a no brainer to me, and that is what I did. The car has a custom, made from scratch by me, z28 style hood scoop that was functional…needed to because of the carb air cleaner mounting surface was almost flush with the hood, the hood scoop was my air cleaner. The pinto hot pants or boss pinto kit' ie the "trans am" look. Paint in metallic black Imron paint.Racer Walsh front springs with sway bar. Re-jetted carb and a cockpit adjustable boost controller. Last was a 2 ½ inch custom stainless steel exhaust. I was able to run 12 plus # of boost with leaded Sunoco 260 all the way into 4th gear to about 4k rpm’s, then it got bad detonation. It surprised allot of trans am's and z28 in it's day. This was my daily summer driver for a few years, then just a now and then driver….once I purchased my new 86 Turbo Coupe., the Pinto became the garage queen and only got driven in 1987 to my new house, then back into the garage and not the “queen” any more.
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: oldeguy on January 30, 2011, 08:43:09 PM
Todays progress...got the donor car up on jack stands, pull driveshaft, drained the trans, remove radiator fan assy. got most of the wires disconnected from engine, pulled maf and assoc hardware off turbo, need to get fuel line off? how does one remove this type of connector? see pic below
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: oldeguy on January 30, 2011, 08:48:22 PM
as we say in the boating community...sh e's on the hard!
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Post by: TIGGER on January 30, 2011, 10:31:14 PM
Nice car and nice project.  What are you going to do with the bird when you are done pulling the engine?
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: Bigtimmay on January 31, 2011, 05:34:07 AM
Nice car and nice project.  What are you going to do with the bird when you are done pulling the engine?

I was thinking the same thing about the bird it seems to be in alright condition
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: oldeguy on January 31, 2011, 07:59:29 AM
Nice car and nice project.  What are you going to do with the bird when you are done pulling the engine?
thks for the "nice project" comments!
Well I want to sell it! the body only has surface rust on the underside...wo w! it's pretty clean from a rust stand point. pictures...http://s1139.photobucket.com/albums/n547/donchez22/88%20Turbo%20Coupe/ (http://s1139.photobucket.com/albums/n547/donchez22/88%20Turbo%20Coupe/)
just posted it on one of the t/c sights...it would be a great start for aa race car or a resto project. I would have used this car if it was 1000 # lighter...need that 5.5 to 6 #/hp ratio!
 
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: TIGGER on January 31, 2011, 02:35:57 PM
Thats cool....let me know if you end up parting it out.  I may be interested in the rear disc brakes for my Saleen.
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: Bigtimmay on January 31, 2011, 05:54:05 PM
If you was closer id try to get that from ya i miss my tc but mine the drivers side framerail was rotted otherwise i wouldnt have pulled it apart.
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: oldeguy on January 31, 2011, 06:36:23 PM
Thats cool....let me know if you end up parting it out.  I may be interested in the rear disc brakes for my Saleen.
tigger, the 8.8 is going in my Pinto after narrowing, and all the other mod required to get it to leaf springs.
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: oldeguy on January 31, 2011, 07:42:47 PM
If you was closer id try to get that from ya i miss my tc but mine the drivers side framerail was rotted otherwise i wouldnt have pulled it apart.
bigtim...i can not believe how rust free the car is...i really don't want to se it scraped out. but...
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: oldeguy on January 31, 2011, 07:59:30 PM
progress today....
3 inch ss exhaust almost off...man lots of clamps, but a sweet system. removing the downpipe required me to grind a socket wall really thin to get it on.
went to the parts store to look at replacement fuel connections, I think i know no how to remove.
Trans to bellhousing bolts...two were almost loose, two are really tight...so tight...have not gotten them loose yet!
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: oldeguy on January 31, 2011, 08:53:53 PM
My donor engine set up. diamond pistons, crower rods, esslinger hardened crank, powerhead head with some port matching to manifolds. a237 cam with roller rocked, stock 88 T/C intercooler, turbonetics t3/t4 stage III, bailey BOV, 65 mm throttle body, 90 mm Lightning MAF, eec la3 w/eec tuner, 55# Delphi injectors, alum. Flywheel, T/C 5 speed, the 8.8 differential with 3.73 gears.
 
my vision...big butt front mounted intercooler, 20 - 25+ # boost, alki/water injection, 11 inch front disc's with GM metric calipers, 5 bolt wheels, 15 x 7 up front, 15 X 8 rears looking at billet street wheels, tires...50 series on front, maybe 60 on the rear. getting the front air spoiler back on. the chassis up dates...6 point roll cage, subframe connectors, caltrac traction bars, new shocks.
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: oldeguy on February 04, 2011, 06:20:15 PM
well...the engine is ready to come out of the t/c donor!!!! got almost all the underbody stuff off.
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: Pinturbo75 on February 04, 2011, 07:28:46 PM
you dont need to narrow the tc rear, use a set of axles and brake drums from a mustang 7.5 or 8.8 and it narrows the rear enough to fit 15x8s with 255-60-15 tires.....
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: Pinto5.0 on February 05, 2011, 01:34:13 PM
That looks like some quick progress. I wonder if turbo Pinto's outnumber Tbirds at this point.
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: beaner on February 06, 2011, 02:16:41 PM
my first pinto had close to the same taillights young and dumb
(http://s468.photobucket.com/albums/rr42/bradleygt99/?action-view&current=pintorear.jpg)http://s468.photobucket.com/albums/rr42/bradleygt99/?action=view&current=pintorear.jpg (http://s468.photobucket.com/albums/rr42/bradleygt99/?action=view&current=pintorear.jpg)
 http://s468.photobucket.com/albums/rr42/bradleygt99/?action=view&current=untitled.jpg (http://s468.photobucket.com/albums/rr42/bradleygt99/?action=view&current=untitled.jpg)
brad :)
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: oldeguy on February 06, 2011, 08:57:47 PM
my first pinto had close to the same taillights young and dumb
(http://s468.photobucket.com/albums/rr42/bradleygt99/?action-view&current=pintorear.jpg)http://s468.photobucket.com/albums/rr42/bradleygt99/?action=view&current=pintorear.jpg (http://s468.photobucket.com/albums/rr42/bradleygt99/?action=view&current=pintorear.jpg)
 http://s468.photobucket.com/albums/rr42/bradleygt99/?action=view&current=untitled.jpg (http://s468.photobucket.com/albums/rr42/bradleygt99/?action=view&current=untitled.jpg)
brad :)
brad, see you also went for the mustang back up lights! i was going to do the same....
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: beaner on February 06, 2011, 09:17:36 PM
brad, see you also went for the mustang back up lights! i was going to do the same....
those are small rectangle fog light type lights

brad :)
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: oldeguy on February 10, 2011, 07:35:05 AM
you dont need to narrow the tc rear, use a set of axles and brake drums from a mustang 7.5 or 8.8 and it narrows the rear enough to fit 15x8s with 255-60-15 tires.....
I do want disc brake on the rear...do I need them? probably not, but i want them.
Did some soul searching...an d looking at it from a dose of reality. it was going to be expensive to convert this T/C 8.8. big "heavy" rotors, caliper that is complex because of e brake, ect. So, my plan has changed to an explorer 8.8, cut down the 31" axle side to match the 27 inch...two cuts on one tube, then one weld. It's got solid disc's, got drum ebrake, got standard axles. Sounds to good to be true, we'll see.  8)
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: oldeguy on February 11, 2011, 08:56:30 PM
been cold here in OHIO the last couple of days...-5 F 6 AM yesterday.
 
the engine is out....
 
 
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: oldeguy on February 15, 2011, 09:43:54 PM
got the cars moved around....bird s out in the cold, the Pinto in the heat again.
 
found a 8.8 3:73 geared 97 Mountaineer axle assembly. Oboy...determi ned that i have a standard O2 sensor, ordered master brake cylinder...a centric unit with a plastic reservoir. Hope it works
 
got the bird roller sold...man that took a while.
 
could not re-size the bird shot in the snow!
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: oldeguy on February 22, 2011, 07:14:30 AM
Up date....22 feb 2011
*my Centric Master brake cylinder was not what I expected. it did not look like the pictures with the plastic reservior...it looks like a standard unit?
* got the engine bay sanded and cleaned up, how working on getting the wire harness cleaned up.
* purchased my new Turbo wiring harness…with MAF
* pulling the heater/AC out
* got the FMIC picked out and purchased…a 17 x 11 x 3 inch core size from fleabay
* reviewed the areas to weld up the cars spot weld seams
* got my 255 l/h walbro pump...think I got the fuel line/filters figured out.
 
 
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: oldeguy on March 17, 2011, 06:48:36 AM
17 mar 2011...spendin g time in the garage...but doesn't seem that I'm making forward progress. must be...spending 3-4 hours per day!
 
But did get the FMIC install done.
before picture, duing, after....cutti ng the hole was the most difficult, but not bad.
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: oldeguy on March 27, 2011, 09:13:49 PM
A quick up date...cleanin g and painting part, welding on the frame rails...also working on getting the pull cable bell housing and front sump oil pan on the T/C motor. Ran into a few issues...the front sump oil pan wil not fit because of the main cap straps and the windage device attached to the main caps. so, need to modify the cap. the bell housing need some helicoil.
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: vonkysmeed on March 27, 2011, 10:31:26 PM
looking at the picture, the front sump pan may still work (with mods)  The biggest issue I see is the oil pickup.  If you can move the oil pickup to the front, but that may require some fabrication for the pick up line. 
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: oldeguy on March 28, 2011, 07:59:49 AM
got a front sump pick-up...here is the cut!
 
 
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Post by: vonkysmeed on March 28, 2011, 10:54:38 AM
that is the pan, I hope you have an oil pick up too.
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: oldeguy on April 01, 2011, 08:43:34 AM
up date....got pan mod's 90% done, http://s1139.photobucket.com/albums/n547/donchez22/Turbo%20Pinto%20overhaul/?action=view&current=20110330104550.jpg#!oZZ1QQcurrentZ Zhttp%3A%2F%2Fs1139.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn547%2Fdonchez22%2FTurbo%2520Pinto%2520overhaul%2F%3Faction%3Dview%26current%3D20110331172215.jpg 
still need to add the speedway sump kit.
 
and got some new wheels... sweet  ;D  http://s1139.photobucket.com/albums/n547/donchez22/Turbo%20Pinto%20overhaul/?action=view&current=20110330104550.jpg (http://s1139.photobucket.com/albums/n547/donchez22/Turbo%20Pinto%20overhaul/?action=view&current=20110330104550.jpg)
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: oldeguy on April 02, 2011, 06:58:55 AM
finally got my 8.8 rear end  :surprised: 
 
warm enought to work outside today...disass emble of the brackets and parts...next off to sand blasting later next week.
 

 http://s1139.photobucket.com/albums/n547/donchez22/Turbo%20Pinto%20overhaul/?action=view&current=20110402131627.jpg (http://s1139.photobucket.com/albums/n547/donchez22/Turbo%20Pinto%20overhaul/?action=view&current=20110402131627.jpg)
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Post by: dave1987 on April 10, 2011, 02:53:43 AM
Is that a disc brake rear axle? I'm jealous... :P
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Post by: oldeguy on April 10, 2011, 06:13:11 AM
Good eye Dave...off to sand blasting on Monday!
 
Just layed out my drill pattern for the rotors, ordered my SS braided lines, new rotor/caiipers...
 
 :)
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: Bigtimmay on April 10, 2011, 11:49:33 AM
Exploder rearend?  Ive been thinking about using one just dont know if i wanna leave it stock length or cut down the drivers side axle tube and run two passenger axle to make it a lil bit narrower. But the 31 spline axles and disc brakes and 5 lug are nice plus most have trac-locs and 3.73 gears which is what i want for behind my t5.
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: oldeguy on April 11, 2011, 06:03:10 AM
yep...explorer .
 
i'm not sure you want to have the center section offset by almost three inches. may have some fit issues, but for sure a good drive shaft offset.  ;)
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: Bigtimmay on April 11, 2011, 12:20:00 PM
Actually the offset thats on them will clear in a pinto its been done already Ohsix9 has one under his CW and it still keeps the 17x9 i think they are cobra R wheels in the fender wells. Im just thinking of narrowing one so i can stuff a little extra meat on a set of 15 inch wheels.
 
After you get that beast drivable youll see why i want all the tire i can get under mine.  :lol:
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: oldeguy on April 13, 2011, 08:28:38 PM
got it back from sandblasting and primer paint...
 
 (http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n547/donchez22/Turbo%20Pinto%20overhaul/20110413182351.jpg)

needed a little more pan depth at cap and windage tray nuts...
 
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Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: oldeguy on April 22, 2011, 04:10:36 PM
Got all the bearing checked for clearances...a ll are good!  :) now the "not so good"   :(  the turbo shaft is almost max'ed out in axial play, end play is tight, oil pump pick up tube hitting the main stud nut, the Speedway pan kit p/n 910-15196 won't fit the stock oil pump pick up, needed to add some dimples for main and windage tray nut heads. the good is got all these issues resolved...jus t more time! a few pic's
 
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Post by: oldeguy on May 03, 2011, 07:39:23 AM
narrowing my 8.8 diff for the "hot rod"
 
FWIW...I'm cutting the long side down to equal the short side, then using short side axles on both sides. This will give me an axle overall width of 56.125" wide, or 0.875 inches narrower then the stock Pinto axle.
 
cut #1...then cut #2 notice the scribed line on axle tube, this will be used for alingment at reassembly.
 
Need of brake backing plate for this axle in the wanted area. need both sides.
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: Reeves1 on May 03, 2011, 05:23:47 PM
Just a photo posting tip....

When using your photobucket account, copy the bottom "img" code and the picture will show here like this:

(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n547/donchez22/Turbo%20Pinto%20overhaul/20110413182351.jpg)
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Post by: oldeguy on May 03, 2011, 06:52:37 PM
Hey Reeves1....thk s for the tip! that sure makes a better looking posting!  ;D
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Post by: Reeves1 on May 03, 2011, 09:25:17 PM
Forgot to mention... when you paste the "img" code, use it's own line, or you can end up with a wide post.
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: oldeguy on May 08, 2011, 06:48:51 AM
Welding up the shorted axle housing....the clamping and aligment pic....
 
(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n547/donchez22/Turbo%20Pinto%20overhaul/20110505113128diff1WinCE.jpg)
 
the tack welds....I tacked at 90* intervals, let it cool,
 
(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n547/donchez22/Turbo%20Pinto%20overhaul/20110505113142closeupWinCE.jpg)
 
The longer welds...then did about 3/4" to 1" long welds, let it cool, then repeated until complete....
 
(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n547/donchez22/Turbo%20Pinto%20overhaul/weldedaxleWinCE.jpg)
 
Looks pretty good to me! what do you guys think?
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Post by: Bigtimmay on May 08, 2011, 01:09:24 PM
Looks fine shouldn't go anywhere just make sure the spring perches are on there good too I've watched those twist off. LOL
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: oldeguy on May 15, 2011, 09:39:31 AM
Got my Calvert Racing Suspension spring perches...they look good! Nice an beefey!  ;)
 
 (http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n547/donchez22/Turbo%20Pinto%20overhaul/20110514103220Small.jpg)
 
A picture of it sitting on the axle tube...note the small gap for better welding penetration!
 
(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n547/donchez22/Turbo%20Pinto%20overhaul/20110514103241Small.jpg)
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: T.HADLEY on May 15, 2011, 11:10:59 AM
Nice job on the axle, from one old guy to another... :lol:

T.
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: oldeguy on June 07, 2011, 06:28:37 AM
Not much progress on the pinto the last few weeks. other project consumming to time, getting the boat ready, the garden, green stuff/yard bs......
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: Bigtimmay on June 07, 2011, 01:11:03 PM
i just thought of somthing are you gunna be welding the axle tubes to the third member?
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: don33 on June 08, 2011, 07:05:01 AM
Hey oldeguy, exactly how much did you cut out of that housing,?  I see this procedure in my future.
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: don33 on June 08, 2011, 01:36:38 PM
narrowing my 8.8 diff for the "hot rod"
 
FWIW...I'm cutting the long side down to equal the short side, then using short side axles on both sides. This will give me an axle overall width of 56.125" wide, or 0.875 inches narrower then the stock Pinto axle.
 
cut #1...then cut #2 notice the scribed line on axle tube, this will be used for alingment at reassembly.
 
Need of brake backing plate for this axle in the wanted area. need both sides.


here's  a way to accomplish the same thing with only one cut.
http://www.stangfix.com/testforum2/index.php/topic,11946.0.html


I have heard that the exploer axle housing tubes are not welded in and are just held to the center section bt a press fit pin.  I have also heard tha it is possible to just pull the long side axle and housing out and replace with a short side axle and housing.  no cutting, no welding and you end up with exactly what oldeguy has now. can anyone confirm this ?
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: oldeguy on June 15, 2011, 06:50:36 PM
don33....cut out about 2 7/8 or 2 15/16 inches of tube, don't have my notes here. but you can just measure the short side and duplicate copy that dimention.

nice link on stangfix...tha t is cool and some great prices for the parts!

don't know about the axle housing and welded or not....
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: don33 on June 15, 2011, 08:41:08 PM
very good,  I think my build is going to be extremely similar to yours....  have you ever heard of the method which I eluded to above ?  and quoted below.[quote


I have heard that the exploer axle housing tubes are not welded in and are just held to the center section bt a press fit pin.  I have also heard tha it is possible to just pull the long side axle and housing out and replace with a short side axle and housing.  no cutting, no welding and you end up with exactly what oldeguy has now. can anyone confirm this ?
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Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: oldeguy on June 15, 2011, 09:24:04 PM
my tubes are plug welded...a 98 explorer 8.8. and I think, but not 100% sure, all are plug welded. if you look a the stangfix link/thread, he drilled these areas out.
 
one more comment...if you have a good means to cut square (you can rent a tube cutter from a rental shop), and can weld this is an easy way to get a narrow 8.8 with disc brakes, 31 spline axles with 5 lugs, which really opens up the wheels that you can use in your build.
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: don33 on June 15, 2011, 09:33:53 PM
Yep, drill em out and pull the axle tubes out...!  install the short side in. I just think it would be cool due to the no cut nature of the procedure.      But yeah, totally agree with your comment.
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: oldeguy on June 16, 2011, 05:31:36 AM
i agree with the no cutting. My issue is with the welding of steel tube to a cast steel? I'm not a well versed welder. so, I've done some reading on forums about this. I've read anything from, use a 6010 rod with arc welder to preheating with TIG...this is what concerns me...just my 0.02

welding steel tube not a problem...i located my cut on the center line of the spring perch...so you also have the spring perch adding strenght to this joint.
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: don33 on June 16, 2011, 08:13:06 AM
I've also heard the issue (rumor) some have about welding  cast steel / cast iron to steel tube. from what experience I have, and research I've done, its a non issue (old wives tale) which all depends on the skill/experience of the welder. I have a downpipe that has mild steel exhaust tubing welded to a Holset cast elbow. just think of all the heat cycles that goes through. some said it wouldn't work.  It works just fine, its been on my car for over two years. But hey, it's all good, theres more than one way to skin a cat...
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: oldeguy on June 16, 2011, 08:34:32 AM
OK...I guess i'll try welding my tubes to the housing...

one man's food is anothers poison!
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: oldeguy on August 23, 2011, 10:06:03 PM
Just about time to start the Pinto project again. did get a quicktime bell housing to put on the engine, but that's about it.
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: don33 on August 25, 2011, 06:20:20 PM
hey there oldeguy, bout ready to start on mine too. you bought that high dollar bell I see... my fuel cell came in last week and I just brought home my Miller 140 autoset welder.  now I'm ready...
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: oldeguy on August 25, 2011, 08:48:05 PM
hey there oldeguy, bout ready to start on mine too. you bought that high dollar bell I see... my fuel cell came in last week and I just brought home my Miller 140 autoset welder.  now I'm ready...

hey don33...you'll love the wire feed machine. I got a lincoln sp?180c about a year ago...it's amazing on thin (under 0.125) sheet metal stuff, about ready to sell the old 225 buzz box.
yep...plan on doing some drag racing with the Pinto when completed...re ally want to keep my feet.
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: oldeguy on November 13, 2011, 06:21:00 PM
it's about time to start working on the pinto again...the boat put away, got 6 cords of wood cut, split and stacked...the stumps ground out. cut a hole in the roof for my triple wall stove pipe...i think I'm about ready....
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: oldeguy on May 24, 2012, 08:28:37 PM
well...the Pinto is still on the back burner. got the 347 in the AC Cobra, got my 331 92 all polished and up for sale, and now working on a 92 302 turbo mustang...re-enforcing the battle boxes, subframe and all new delrin bushings on the control arms....oh, and just launched the boat!
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: oldeguy on November 28, 2012, 06:39:33 AM
Well...got all my wood cut, split and stacked. New to me wood burner installed. Now ready for Winter here on the North coast. The boat is on the hard.
Now, It's time to dig out the Pinto and get the project mov'en again.
review my past posts....man, it's been over a year since I've worked on the Pinto! :'(
 
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: Pinto5.0 on November 28, 2012, 02:42:11 PM
Glad to hear you're ready to dig in. My '80 was sitting almost 2 years before I found the time to work on it.
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: oldeguy on August 14, 2013, 07:41:46 AM
OK...just want to post...I still have the pinto, still in the same...I'll get aroundtuit some day....can't rush into a good project! LOL
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: 74 PintoWagon on August 14, 2013, 08:55:59 AM
Glad I'm not the only one that takes forever to get a project done, already hearing the wife whining about the wagon not being finished, but yet I get a list of crap to do every day, LOL.. ::) :D
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: PintoMaverick on August 15, 2013, 08:05:42 AM
Its taking me forever as well. Started working on it shortly after my son was born (he's 3 1/2 now) and in just the last couple months I finally got the turbo motor running in the car. I have another baby due in Feb so its time to get on the ball. So don't feel bad it happens to all of us lol.
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: oldeguy on September 08, 2013, 08:09:46 AM
8 sept 2013...my pinto still has not built itself yet! she's waiting for me to get off my a#* and help her to finish!
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: oldeguy on October 23, 2013, 08:29:30 PM
well...Pinto still on hold! my 92 turbo notch fox body broke the transmission.. .need to fix this >:(
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: 74 PintoWagon on October 23, 2013, 09:44:56 PM
If it's not one thing it's another, always something to deter a project, lol..
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: Henrius on January 20, 2014, 05:19:28 PM
Wow, that custom hood rocks. Wish you were around my neck of the woods to fabricate body panels!
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: oldeguy on January 20, 2014, 06:37:09 PM
Wow, that custom hood rocks. Wish you were around my neck of the woods to fabricate body panels!
Thanks for the complement! let me tell you...that that was my third try for the look I wanted. and many hours of fabrication! someone on this sight is making some FRP body parts (not my hood)....do a search if your looking for spoilers, wheel spats??
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: oldeguy on June 14, 2014, 08:42:14 PM
still sitting in the garage....wait ing for someone to do something!
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: oldeguy on October 02, 2014, 06:45:00 AM
well she is still collecting dust.... :-\
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: 74 PintoWagon on October 02, 2014, 07:55:54 AM
Don't feel bad, I've had one collecting dust for over 3 yrs now, can't tell what color it is now, lol..
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: oldeguy on August 25, 2015, 01:23:27 PM
well, getting to be the end of Aug 2015...the "Hot Rod" Pinto is still awaiting for me to start putting parts back on her so she can get back on the road!  :o
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: oldeguy on July 13, 2016, 06:52:25 AM
WOW...July 2016! still have a Pinto "OverHaulen" project to complete...
other things eating into my time...347 dart block w/ TF 11R 205cc heads, 75mm Turbo, TH400, 92 notch FOX body...my 5th wheel RV...Sailing.. .garden...Oh.. .forgot about the work thing! too many things to do and not enought time.
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: oldeguy on August 09, 2018, 10:59:44 AM
OK...Aug 2018 It's been a tough decision, but I'm never going to finish this rebuild of my Pinto. I have decided to sell my turbo pinto project. So, got all kinds of stuff for the build. If your interested let me know...440 949 9528 $5k for everything!

[/size][size=78%]1972 Pinto “Turbo” EFI runabout Kit Car…no rust! Never been is salted roads, purchased in CO in 1975, owned it ever since, always stored in a garage![/size]

Finish building my dream! A kick butt 2.3l turbo coupe EFI engine with a Tremic T5 WC transmission thru a Quicktime bellhousting, with an 8.8 posi differential with 3.73 gear ratio, running 275/50-15 street slicks on Weld wheel, big disc brakes (11” rotors) up front, Explorer discs on rear, Mild steel roll bar 6 point kit,  Recaro Mustang pace car seats. The car has the BOSS Pinto wheel spats (like the old Trans Am Firebird, louver back window, with Cougar tail lights. Car is Imron metallic black, custom hood scoop (I built from scratch) All of the body work was completed on the original build back in 1976 This is my dream. And it is in kit form! Got almost all the parts…you need to finish the kit.
Engine…Got two: 2.3l turbo coupe donor engine, this is an EFI engine. it was built, bored +0.020, crower rods, roller followers, capped main caps, and 60 pound injectors. Aluminum flywheel, new Ron Francis wiring harness set up for MAF ECU has a tune chip. New big front Mount intercollerMan y more details…#2 is the 2.3l carb’ed engine…installed in the first build back in 1976…approx 55,000 miles.
Brand new Quicktime bell housing, stock turbo coupe one and aaa…stock 2.3 manual bell
Transmission…got three, the standard T5 from the turbo coupe, or a T5WC from a 5.0 mustang, both have aftermarket shifters, the third is a 2.0 4 speed with Bellhousing.
Differential…the stock pinto is in the car now, but have a Explorer 31 spline that has been narrowed to 57” inches the same as pinto width. It has disc brakes, 3.73 gears, and it’s posi traction.
Wheel 4.5 wide x 15 fronts, 8 x 15 rear, Weld aluminium…no tires
Body…runabout means it’s got a hatch, once I got the car to Ohio used a penetrating rust seal to the body, as anyone who lived thru the one year rust thru of cars back then knows…you could hear them rust! It’s 72 A/C car from factory…tinted glass, A/C and heater box removed…still have it. Body is straight, painted in Imron 48 years ago, has a BOSS Pinto body kit, custom hood scoop molded into steel hood. 67 Cougar tail lights, lovered back window, sun roof, Mustang pace car seats, 10 inch steering wheel, back seat is removed, got a 6 point roll bar kit, new stock fuel tank. Radiator flushed and tested, Got extra grills, fiberglass bumper…
Brakes…11 inch Granada rotor for front with brackets to mount GM Metric rotors. Rear are the Explorer diccs, new master cylinder with proportioning valve.
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: oldeguy on January 10, 2019, 11:07:34 AM
Car still for sale...cold in Ohio now!
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: oldeguy on July 29, 2021, 10:40:59 AM
Hello All, it's that time again, kick-starting the Hot Rod project. My one Turbo Foxbody buddy is bugging me to get this project started and move'n to completion...s o now is the time.
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: dga57 on July 29, 2021, 12:10:05 PM
Hello All, it's that time again, kick-starting the Hot Rod project. My one Turbo Foxbody buddy is bugging me to get this project started and move'n to completion...s o now is the time.

Glad to hear you've renewed your interest in the project.  Keep us in the loop with your progress!

Dwayne :)
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: oldeguy on July 29, 2021, 05:17:13 PM
got a year award today, how do I post this in my signature? thanks

Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: oldeguy on July 29, 2021, 05:19:41 PM
Looking for subframe pictures anyone as done thanks!
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: dga57 on July 29, 2021, 11:44:21 PM
got a year award today, how do I post this in my signature? thanks



I'm a little mystified by what you're calling a "year award"... can you elaborate on that, please? 

Dwayne ???
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: oldkayaker on July 30, 2021, 06:58:27 AM
No personal experience but the links below are some of the previous posts that involve subframe connectors.  Everything seems to be custom made. Have fun.
https://www.fordpinto.com/your-project/my-retirement-project-1977-pinto-2-7l-ecoboost/?topicseen (https://www.fordpinto.com/your-project/my-retirement-project-1977-pinto-2-7l-ecoboost/?topicseenhttps://www.fordpinto.com/your-project/1971-with-a-cleveland-install/?topicseenhttps://www.fordpinto.com/your-project/a-winter-project-on-one-of-the-71's/?topicseenhttps://www.fordpinto.com/your-project/my-first-car-is-a-78-pinto/60/?topicseenhttps://www.fordpinto.com/it's-all-about-the-turbo/official-1980-turbo-pinto-project-thread/?topicseenhttps://www.fordpinto.com/general-help/twist-traction-time-slip-guesses/?topicseenhttps://www.fordpinto.com/pinto-faq/subframe-connectors/?topicseen)
https://www.fordpinto.com/your-project/1971-with-a-cleveland-install/?topicseen (https://www.fordpinto.com/your-project/my-retirement-project-1977-pinto-2-7l-ecoboost/?topicseenhttps://www.fordpinto.com/your-project/1971-with-a-cleveland-install/?topicseenhttps://www.fordpinto.com/your-project/a-winter-project-on-one-of-the-71's/?topicseenhttps://www.fordpinto.com/your-project/my-first-car-is-a-78-pinto/60/?topicseenhttps://www.fordpinto.com/it's-all-about-the-turbo/official-1980-turbo-pinto-project-thread/?topicseenhttps://www.fordpinto.com/general-help/twist-traction-time-slip-guesses/?topicseenhttps://www.fordpinto.com/pinto-faq/subframe-connectors/?topicseen)
https://www.fordpinto.com/your-project/a-winter-project-on-one-of-the-71's/?topicseen (https://www.fordpinto.com/your-project/my-retirement-project-1977-pinto-2-7l-ecoboost/?topicseenhttps://www.fordpinto.com/your-project/1971-with-a-cleveland-install/?topicseenhttps://www.fordpinto.com/your-project/a-winter-project-on-one-of-the-71's/?topicseenhttps://www.fordpinto.com/your-project/my-first-car-is-a-78-pinto/60/?topicseenhttps://www.fordpinto.com/it's-all-about-the-turbo/official-1980-turbo-pinto-project-thread/?topicseenhttps://www.fordpinto.com/general-help/twist-traction-time-slip-guesses/?topicseenhttps://www.fordpinto.com/pinto-faq/subframe-connectors/?topicseen)
https://www.fordpinto.com/your-project/my-first-car-is-a-78-pinto/60/?topicseen (https://www.fordpinto.com/your-project/my-retirement-project-1977-pinto-2-7l-ecoboost/?topicseenhttps://www.fordpinto.com/your-project/1971-with-a-cleveland-install/?topicseenhttps://www.fordpinto.com/your-project/a-winter-project-on-one-of-the-71's/?topicseenhttps://www.fordpinto.com/your-project/my-first-car-is-a-78-pinto/60/?topicseenhttps://www.fordpinto.com/it's-all-about-the-turbo/official-1980-turbo-pinto-project-thread/?topicseenhttps://www.fordpinto.com/general-help/twist-traction-time-slip-guesses/?topicseenhttps://www.fordpinto.com/pinto-faq/subframe-connectors/?topicseen)
https://www.fordpinto.com/it's-all-about-the-turbo/official-1980-turbo-pinto-project-thread/?topicseen (https://www.fordpinto.com/your-project/my-retirement-project-1977-pinto-2-7l-ecoboost/?topicseenhttps://www.fordpinto.com/your-project/1971-with-a-cleveland-install/?topicseenhttps://www.fordpinto.com/your-project/a-winter-project-on-one-of-the-71's/?topicseenhttps://www.fordpinto.com/your-project/my-first-car-is-a-78-pinto/60/?topicseenhttps://www.fordpinto.com/it's-all-about-the-turbo/official-1980-turbo-pinto-project-thread/?topicseenhttps://www.fordpinto.com/general-help/twist-traction-time-slip-guesses/?topicseenhttps://www.fordpinto.com/pinto-faq/subframe-connectors/?topicseen)
https://www.fordpinto.com/general-help/twist-traction-time-slip-guesses/?topicseen (https://www.fordpinto.com/your-project/my-retirement-project-1977-pinto-2-7l-ecoboost/?topicseenhttps://www.fordpinto.com/your-project/1971-with-a-cleveland-install/?topicseenhttps://www.fordpinto.com/your-project/a-winter-project-on-one-of-the-71's/?topicseenhttps://www.fordpinto.com/your-project/my-first-car-is-a-78-pinto/60/?topicseenhttps://www.fordpinto.com/it's-all-about-the-turbo/official-1980-turbo-pinto-project-thread/?topicseenhttps://www.fordpinto.com/general-help/twist-traction-time-slip-guesses/?topicseenhttps://www.fordpinto.com/pinto-faq/subframe-connectors/?topicseen)
https://www.fordpinto.com/pinto-faq/subframe-connectors/?topicseen (https://www.fordpinto.com/your-project/my-retirement-project-1977-pinto-2-7l-ecoboost/?topicseenhttps://www.fordpinto.com/your-project/1971-with-a-cleveland-install/?topicseenhttps://www.fordpinto.com/your-project/a-winter-project-on-one-of-the-71's/?topicseenhttps://www.fordpinto.com/your-project/my-first-car-is-a-78-pinto/60/?topicseenhttps://www.fordpinto.com/it's-all-about-the-turbo/official-1980-turbo-pinto-project-thread/?topicseenhttps://www.fordpinto.com/general-help/twist-traction-time-slip-guesses/?topicseenhttps://www.fordpinto.com/pinto-faq/subframe-connectors/?topicseen)
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: PintoRoyL on July 30, 2021, 08:59:51 PM
I am relatively new here, but I think I can learn a lot from this project.
I intend to keep tabs on your progress. Sounds very interesting.
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: oldeguy on September 08, 2021, 11:16:46 AM
Hello all, sold my turbo foxbody car...sad to see her go but it was time. So project Pinto is back on. How do I add pictures to my posts?
Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: oldeguy on October 21, 2021, 08:52:43 AM
call me crazy, just bought a 1980 Pinto 3 door. 937 mile round trip, 16 hours and an average mpg on my 03 dodge 3500 dually of 29.3 at 70+ MPH...sweet

Title: Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
Post by: Wittsend on October 21, 2021, 11:10:32 AM
This is the COMPUTER (PC) method. If you are using your phone you will have to wait for someone else. This is not a "one and done" process that some of the social media site have.


 First the picture needs to be stored somewhere (and you need to know where that "somewhere" is) on the computer.


Note that there is a picture file maximum size and natively out of the camera/phone that picture size can often be too large. What I do is open the picture, then use the Snipping Tool to recapture the image and it will create a new picture file that is smaller in data size that you save. I recommend you use some indicator ( I use LR) in the file name to indicate it is a "lower resolution" image.



On the page where you create the post scroll down to "Attach." Select "Choose File." This will open your folder files. Navigate to the location (drive, folder, image) where the re-sized pictures are located. Click on the picture and the picture file name should fill the dialog box near the bottom of the open window. Click on "Open". That should complete the process.


In summary: Transfer pictures to the computer, resize picture to an accepted size, select "Choose File" and  navigate to the location the picture was stored, click on the picture to highlight it (and fill the dialog box) and select "Open."