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Re: My Pinto...er....Bobcat....err....sumffin....lol
« Reply #120 on: June 27, 2014, 02:16:28 AM »
It's really a moot point now. The only iron we had in the fire for our situation pretty much went out yesterday. I will be selling things soon as we are now officially in foreclosure. Please pray for us. Thanks.

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Re: My Pinto...er....Bobcat....err....sumffin....lol
« Reply #121 on: June 27, 2014, 08:04:23 AM »
Sorry to hear, that sucks the big one hope things work out for ya..
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Re: My Pinto...er....Bobcat....err....sumffin....lol
« Reply #122 on: June 28, 2014, 01:16:55 AM »
Sorry to hear, that sucks the big one hope things work out for ya..

Same here!
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Re: My Pinto...er....Bobcat....err....sumffin....lol
« Reply #123 on: August 02, 2014, 01:21:16 AM »
Well, we are still here and I still have the car, so I reckon that's good news for now. lol

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Re: My Pinto...er....Bobcat....err....sumffin....lol
« Reply #124 on: August 02, 2014, 07:39:55 AM »
Glad to hear.. 8) 8)
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Re: My Pinto...er....Bobcat....err....sumffin....lol
« Reply #125 on: May 30, 2016, 12:19:49 AM »
Many apologies. Sorry it has been so dingle dangied long since I have posted. We have had a LOT happen in the last two years. Wife had heart attack number 3 last fall. Then she had a stroke back on May 11th this year. She's a tough old gal though, because she's already back at work. lol

Still have the car and I have been very slowly acquiring parts as I can. I am almost ready to begin.

I have a question. Is anyone using late model Explorer accessory drive items? I will be. The Explorer 5.0 water pump is a little over 2" shorter than the 5.0 Rustang pump. Lots of room to be had there. I will also be utilizing the Explorer alternator bracket and harmonic balancer, since they will have belt placement on the correct plane. Will post pictures when I start to mock it all up.

In the meantime, I will be modifying the transmission tunnel/firewall area, as evidently, the Bobcats still use the smaller early Pinto transmission tunnel and firewall area. Hopefully I will be posting progress pictures soon.

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Re: My Pinto...er....Bobcat....err....sumffin....lol
« Reply #126 on: May 30, 2016, 07:18:24 AM »
Welcome back, glad to hear the wife is doing good.. 8) 8)
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Re: My Pinto...er....Bobcat....err....sumffin....lol
« Reply #127 on: May 30, 2016, 03:45:30 PM »
Welcome back!  Here's hoping your wife will continue to do well.  She does sound like a tough lady!  Also, happy to hear you haven't lost your enthusiasm for the car. 


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Re: My Pinto...er....Bobcat....err....sumffin....lol
« Reply #128 on: June 02, 2016, 08:41:37 AM »
Welcome back!  Here's hoping your wife will continue to do well.  She does sound like a tough lady!  Also, happy to hear you haven't lost your enthusiasm for the car. 


Dwayne :)

Thanks. So far, she is making a miraculous recovery.

So here is what I got done this morning. Got the Exploder water pump, balancer and water pump pulley and bypass hose installed. My Exploder alternator bracket is at the sheen shop gettin blasted, along with an original 351C 4V intake manifold I have. At any rate, here is the Bobcat's power plant. As you can see, the Exploder accessory drive is going to be really short. I am hoping I will have enough room for the belt driven Exploder clutch fan. We'll see. I also included a peek at my converted adjustable roller rockers.

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Re: My Pinto...er....Bobcat....err....sumffin....lol
« Reply #129 on: June 02, 2016, 11:32:59 AM »
Lookin' good!  I do love progress!!!


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Re: My Pinto...er....Bobcat....err....sumffin....lol
« Reply #130 on: June 02, 2016, 01:05:53 PM »
yes that pump is short , as for the fan its a screw on type , might be better since you do not have to bolt it on like the older ones , also if it is to big you might check to see it if the tread size is the same for a ranger with the 2.3 or 2.9 , they are smaller in diameter and a tad shorter too, just a few extra ideas , looking good and keep posting,  great when your doing the R & D ,  ( so we can (R)ob  and  (D)upicate ) have a good one ,
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Re: My Pinto...er....Bobcat....err....sumffin....lol
« Reply #131 on: June 02, 2016, 01:14:23 PM »
yes that pump is short , as for the fan its a screw on type , might be better since you do not have to bolt it on like the older ones , also if it is to big you might check to see it if the tread size is the same for a ranger with the 2.3 or 2.9 , they are smaller in diameter and a tad shorter too, just a few extra ideas , looking good and keep posting,  great when your doing the R & D ,  ( so we can (R)ob  and  (D)upicate ) have a good one ,

The whole point of me sharin all this. Maybe I can contribute some small way to the millions lined up to do Bobcat/Pinto V8 swaps. lol.

I think my mind in the back recesses knows the fan will not fit, but that's not gonna stop me from trying. I am also NOT going to put the radiator on the front side of the support. Ain't happenin. I have always thought that looked really chinsey and "un"factory as hell.  ......no offense to anyone whose done it, I simply ain't goin that route.

And thank you for the different fan clutch ideas. I work at an auto parts store, so that will be easy to run down.

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Re: My Pinto...er....Bobcat....err....sumffin....lol
« Reply #132 on: June 02, 2016, 02:30:27 PM »
keep up the great work!! looking good
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Re: My Pinto...er....Bobcat....err....sumffin....lol
« Reply #133 on: June 02, 2016, 08:44:50 PM »
Thanks yall. In the mornin I am going to replace the power rack with a manual one. Then I am going to start on the fuel system.

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Re: My Pinto...er....Bobcat....err....sumffin....lol
« Reply #134 on: June 07, 2016, 09:23:02 PM »
Wasn't able to get to the rack and pinion yet. Too dang hot. I did get the alternator bracket back from the sheen shop all nice and blasted. So I primed and painted it. Here it is in all its glory. The bracket is very compact and close to the engine.  I have it bolted to the engine and I will take pictures of that tomorrow once I have the belt for it. Baby steps, but it's progress.

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Re: My Pinto...er....Bobcat....err....sumffin....lol
« Reply #135 on: June 08, 2016, 06:57:30 AM »
Quote
along with an original 351C 4V intake manifold I have

Not going to fit a 302w.


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http://www.fordpinto.com/index.php?topic=27107.0


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Re: My Pinto...er....Bobcat....err....sumffin....lol
« Reply #136 on: June 08, 2016, 07:12:18 AM »
B2 ports (same sort of for 351 C)




302w ports (not different bolt pattern as well)


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Re: My Pinto...er....Bobcat....err....sumffin....lol
« Reply #137 on: June 08, 2016, 02:46:42 PM »
Not going to fit a 302w.


Something that may interest you..... ?
http://www.fordpinto.com/index.php?topic=27107.0

Yeahno kiddin. That's for a different project down the road. lol

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Re: My Pinto...er....Bobcat....err....sumffin....lol
« Reply #138 on: June 08, 2016, 02:50:06 PM »
More than familiar with the difference. That's why they were given different designations. Cleveland, Windsor and Modified or Midland. Like I said, the Cleveland stuff is for later on down the road. It may never get built, but I needed it cleaned and painted so it would not rust into oblivion. lol  Thanks.





B2 ports (same sort of for 351 C)




302w ports (not different bolt pattern as well)



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Re: My Pinto...er....Bobcat....err....sumffin....lol
« Reply #139 on: June 08, 2016, 02:53:37 PM »
Here is today's progress. I am gonna wait a little bit on the rack and pinion it is so danged hot here.

I got the alternator and belt drive on today. I know it doesn't look like a lot of belt coverage on the water pump pulley, but it's pretty hard to force to turn by hand so I think it will be fine.

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Re: My Pinto...er....Bobcat....err....sumffin....lol
« Reply #140 on: June 08, 2016, 05:43:49 PM »
Figured you would know....... I should read more better ! LOL !

Just trying to help.....

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« Reply #141 on: June 08, 2016, 08:02:01 PM »
Ididn't mean it to sound condescending at all. Just that I have worked on so many of the danged things through the years, I am sick of them. LOL I started turning wrenches when I was nine in 1974 and have done it ever since. Why, I have no clue. lol

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« Reply #142 on: June 09, 2016, 04:51:58 PM »
I got the manual rack and pinion swapped in today and as usual with my projects, two steps forward and one step back. Now I have to find a manual rag joint or just get a coupler joint from Borgesen or some such. Oh well. lol

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« Reply #143 on: June 09, 2016, 10:01:54 PM »
two steps forward and one step back.
Hmmmm, you're doing good, with me it's usually the opposite, LOL.. ;D ;D ;D
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Re: My Pinto...er....Bobcat....err....sumffin....lol
« Reply #144 on: June 10, 2016, 11:50:54 AM »
I found this diagram on an early Bronco site. If you plan on running the 4G alternator from the Explorer, like I am, this is how you need to wire it. I think yall will like how much room this is going to have when I am done. I caint wait to start fitting the engine in the bay again.


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« Reply #145 on: June 14, 2016, 01:52:07 PM »
I got an Exploder 5.0 AC/PS bracket. It also has another idler pulley on it that is in the perfect position to clock the belt on around the water pump, probably end up with about 2/3 or so coverage.

I cut the AC and PS portions of the bracket off and dropped it off at the sheen shop to get blasted. Soon as I get it back, I will post pics with the bracket and 2nd idler along with the new longer belt. That will enable me to go ahead and run the clutch fan if it will fit. Either way, I'll have a LOT more belt on that water pump.

Baby steps, but it's forward momentum.

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Re: My Pinto...er....Bobcat....err....sumffin....lol
« Reply #146 on: June 20, 2016, 01:19:07 PM »
Got the belt drive finished. Oh happy day. lol

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Re: My Pinto...er....Bobcat....err....sumffin....lol
« Reply #147 on: June 21, 2016, 05:54:28 AM »
How close is the alt to the front bottom of the hood ?
Just curious .....

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« Reply #148 on: June 21, 2016, 10:34:13 PM »
How close is the alt to the front bottom of the hood ?
Just curious .....

Crapped if I know, but since it is lower than the carburetor mounting pad on the intake, I think I am safe. lol

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Re: My Pinto...er....Bobcat....err....sumffin....lol
« Reply #149 on: July 06, 2016, 01:11:48 PM »
A tad more progress today. I am using the GM HEI but disguising it as Ford Duraspark. I decided to put the module and coil on a common plate and mount it on the idler pulley bracket at the front of the engine. Once wired up, should the HEI module fail, I can simply plug in a spare Duraspark box as the way it will be wired the Ford module will still work.