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Title: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: Fehrion_sit on November 03, 2011, 10:03:41 PM
let me start off with what i have, My father and I have a 72 pinto Pangra, automatic (non turbo). the car has atleast the stage 2 (suspension and body effects). the drivetrain has all been removed, we are planning for a manaul swap with a 67 289 with 302 heads using a Ranger rear end. i am having problems with the frame mounts, how do i get the small block mounts to work? i also have the wrong smll block bellhousing(c5ta-6394-a).  i would like to use the four speed out of a pinto.

- attached is a picture of the best frame mounts i have found (attached pic) ... thoughts on them?
- which bellhousing do i need?
- i am in need of a clutch pedal/brake pedal assembly, no power brakes, any for sale?
- i know hedmen has a set of headers that would work, so does hooker, which will work best for a 72?

suggestions? 
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: dave1987 on November 03, 2011, 10:19:39 PM
I would use an engine plate or build some brackets that go from the frame to the heads. The only issue with that, though, is the lack of motor mount and it would vibrate like crazy! I have heard of people using Mustang II mounts (two passenger side mounts with minor relocation of the frame mounts), but others have also said it does not work.

I am assuming you are using a front sump pan on that motor, which will help, but you may need to push the motor forwards to clear the cross member (without notching it) due to the pan sump "slant/drain" being angled to much. This is why the Mustang II pan is so desired for this swap.

For my 78 Sedan, I plan to use Mustang II donor parts. Looking for a Mustang II oil pan, pump pickup, mounts and headers which should make things a breeze when it comes time.
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: Fehrion_sit on November 03, 2011, 11:51:39 PM
i have the pinto v8 book off ebay which suggest engine plates, that is not an option for me. i also have no problem running a notched oil pan and (or) front sump, the engine needs to remain as far back as possible for the best weight distribution.

i do not reccommend that book to anyone, it is very vague.

i know mustang II motor mounts will work, im just concerned with the corresponding frame mounts.
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: dave1987 on November 04, 2011, 12:35:40 AM
Not to sure about the frame mounts, I can't tell if those are the original ones for the 2.0 or not either, someone else may know though.

As for the engine sitting as far back as possible, be prepared to modify the firewall. Regardless of the bell you decide to use, you will need to cut out or hammer in the firewall at the entrance to the transmission tunnel for clearance.
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: Reeves1 on November 04, 2011, 05:36:04 AM
302 will likely rip the stock Pinto trans to pieces.

Motor mounts: http://www.fordpinto.com/your-project/302-motor-mounting/

Five pages in that topic alone......
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: turbopinto72 on November 04, 2011, 10:08:34 AM
Can you post a picture of the car ? I would like to see it.
 
Thanks
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: Fehrion_sit on November 04, 2011, 11:21:45 AM
i was under the impression that it was common the run the small block ford with the pinto 4spd?

Thankyou reeves1 for that link, ive been reading several threads similar to that one, and i want to get the frame mounts correct because im not looking to twist it. i had a long conversation with a man who raced dirt track pintos and he was very concerned with my plans because the frame reinforcement ends about an inch forward of the original 4cyl frame mounts. this car is going to be a street car, not a DD but more of a weekend toy. ive been talking to Cookieboy and Fred morgan trying to get a handle on mounting my v8 into the car (a great thanks to them for being so open!)

i have many pictures of the car and of our tear down process turbopinto72, what do your frame mounts look like in your 289 pinto? what trans are you running?
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: Cookieboystoys on November 04, 2011, 12:07:07 PM
i want to get the frame mounts correct because im not looking to twist it. i had a long conversation with a man who raced dirt track pintos and he was very concerned with my plans because the frame reinforcement ends about an inch forward of the original 4cyl frame mounts. this car is going to be a street car, not a DD but more of a weekend toy.

how much horse power are you planning for this V8 you want to install????
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: Fehrion_sit on November 04, 2011, 12:17:16 PM
its a 67 289 .030 over, with hypereutectic pistons, flat tappot with a holley intake/carb with 302 heads ... nothing crazy for a v8


cookieboy, i think my dad was emailing you about ours
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: Cookieboystoys on November 04, 2011, 12:21:19 PM
so... are you thinking 200hp? more? I don't know enough about enging building and parts to know based on your description how much HP to expect out of that build.

Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: Fehrion_sit on November 04, 2011, 12:30:10 PM
im anticipating close to 300hp, that may be over estimating but id rather be safe than sorry
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: Cookieboystoys on November 04, 2011, 01:01:11 PM
it's my understanding that if you do not want to twist the car with lots of HP... it's rear frame connectors you should be looking into... not motor mounts
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: Fehrion_sit on November 04, 2011, 01:07:35 PM
im not expressing my question in the right way, the motor mounting system has two parts. an engine side, and the corresponding frame side, i do not understand how the frame side is made/modified/bought .... the stock pinto frame mounts are far to narrow to hold a v8...
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: fast64ranchero on November 04, 2011, 01:14:40 PM
By the looks of the mounts, someone has installed later (74 and up) 2.3 mounts, I'd suggest removing those mounts and installing Mustang II or making your own mount,
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: Cookieboystoys on November 04, 2011, 01:18:14 PM
I think you should take a look at this thread, it may help...

here ~>http://www.fordpinto.com/your-project/71-v8-swap-let-the-fun-begin!!/ (http://www.fordpinto.com/your-project/71-v8-swap-let-the-fun-begin!!/)

one thing to keep in mind is that you have a 1972... the 71-73 have a smaller engine bay than the 74 and up Pintos so fitting the V8 in an early Pinto has special considerations . 71pintoracer's build may help you quite a bit and answer a few questions for you.
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: Fehrion_sit on November 04, 2011, 01:38:20 PM
he used a t-5 and had to do extensive work to the fire wall ... is there any way i can avoid that .... i kind of suspect thats the bellhousing i have x_x
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: Norman Bagi on November 04, 2011, 02:24:14 PM
Here is a picture of my motor mounts.  They are MustangII.  I saw this car on craigslist, I was going to buy this with a freind and you snatched it up, nice purchase, good luck with the build and I hope to see this car at Carlisle or on a Stampede down the road.
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: Norman Bagi on November 04, 2011, 02:27:55 PM
send me an email and I will send you a bigger picture. Brian was right, you will need sub frame connectors and I can give you some feedback on how to work this street legal and driveable.  it is easy to make these tough to handle if you go too big.  Your set up should produce somewhere between 220-280 horsepowerd depending on how you build it. More if you put a supercharger, turbo or really port everything and go big with intake and exhaust.  Room wil be your enemy on that sida though. bosspinto@pintostampede.com
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: Cookieboystoys on November 04, 2011, 02:44:30 PM
he used a t-5 and had to do extensive work to the fire wall ... is there any way i can avoid that .... i kind of suspect thats the bellhousing i have x_x

the 302 and t5 in my pangra use a front mount engine plate vs. motor mounts in the standard location... I have a call into the previous owner to see if they had to modify the firewall or tunnel for the t5. I know he didn't build it, had professionals do the work, but he may know. I don't recall anything on the firewall looking out of place, never looked at the tunnel... waiting for a call back from him and will let you know...
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: Fehrion_sit on November 04, 2011, 02:47:06 PM
thankyou cookieboy, another question, does the blower motor coil stick into the fire wall? on the left side, if you are facing the firewall, does that hit the head on the motor?

i can post a picture if needed
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: Cookieboystoys on November 04, 2011, 03:08:02 PM
thankyou cookieboy, another question, does the blower motor coil stick into the fire wall? on the left side, if you are facing the firewall, does that hit the head on the motor?

here is a picture of my motor/blower motor
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: Cookieboystoys on November 04, 2011, 04:57:43 PM
I have a call into the previous owner to see if they had to modify the firewall or tunnel for the t5.

in the case of my Pangra V8 setup with 302 and t5 - firewall and tunnel did not need to be modified. His words were.... slid right in
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: Fehrion_sit on November 05, 2011, 02:46:07 PM
good good, than i think that is going to become the new plan, according to the web, c5ta-6394-a is a 351 bellhousing to a 4spd toploader (pinto trans will obviously not bolt up to that) and to my understanding neither will a t-5 ... in my opinion ... this is overly complicated haha ... suggestions? i got it all off craigslist, ill just turn around and sell it again.

i am still looking for the clutch pedal/brake pedal assembly. is it true i absolutely need a non power brakes assembly because the fulcrum is different? any thoughts? im really hoping i dont have to modify the headlight lever when i install the new pedals. 
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: RSM on November 05, 2011, 04:03:27 PM
Do you need a V8 T5 bell housing? I have one I don't need since I'm running an automatic. It came with a tranny I bought for my wifes Mustang we had several years ago.
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: Fehrion_sit on November 05, 2011, 04:29:42 PM
will it bolt up to my 289? ... hydro  clutch or cable,

we are running cable clutch.

how far away are you from PA?
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: RSM on November 06, 2011, 07:40:13 PM
I'm in Az. It's a small block bell so it will fit anything Windsor. I'll have to take a good look at it since I just pulled the tranny off and set it aside. I'll get a look at it and let you know.
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: Fehrion_sit on November 07, 2011, 11:03:54 AM
so what you have is a small block to t-5 bellhousing, could you get me the part # so i have a good idea of what to look for, id buy it but shipping from AZ would probably be out of this world.
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: RSM on November 07, 2011, 08:47:58 PM
If its something would actually use you can have it...didn't cost me anything and I'd just wind up selling it for scrap anyways.
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: Pinto5.0 on November 08, 2011, 07:53:50 PM
Send it Parcel Post for 12 or 13 bucks. I bought an '89 Mustang T5 off Craigslist for $300 & it came with the pull type bell which is the correct one. I think up to '93 will work.
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: RSM on November 08, 2011, 09:14:15 PM
I'll have to take a look at it...I'm not sure if it's a push or pull type bell....glad you said something.
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: Fehrion_sit on November 08, 2011, 10:07:22 PM
if parcel post is an option, im all for it!

what is a push or pull type? im assuming the way the clutch is engaged/disengaged?
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: RSM on November 09, 2011, 10:19:55 PM
Push or pull means the way the clutch fork is actuated. A pull type uses a cable and the push type is pushed to engauge/disengauge the clutch. For the pull (cable) type the pivot ball (inside the bell)is on the passenger side and push type has the pivot ball on the drivers side of the bell. If your looking at a bell housing and it has no clutch fork in it...that is how you tell which one it is. I hope that wasn't confusing lol
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: Fehrion_sit on November 09, 2011, 10:31:38 PM
well i just learned something new. im gonna go out on a limb and say a push is probably best for a pinto because it is the path of least resistance?


on a side note, attached is a picture of 1975 mustang II frame mounts i found on craigslist, any thoughts, i think those are what im looking for.
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: RSM on November 10, 2011, 05:54:42 PM
In order to use a push type clutch you would have to have either mechanical linkage or a hydraulic clutch setup...cable is the easiest since it's already setup. Even easier is an automatic  ;D
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: RSM on November 10, 2011, 07:48:03 PM
I checked this bell housing...it's not a cable pull.
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: Fehrion_sit on November 11, 2011, 11:15:42 AM
RSM, you went from manual to automatic, do you still have the clutch pedal assembly? i am going from auto the manual.

about the bellhousing, i should be looking for a t-5 with a cable operated clutch, hopefully i can buy it all as one, they should all bolt to the 289 because it is the same block as a 302.

correct?
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: Reeves1 on November 11, 2011, 11:22:31 AM
Push or pull means the way the clutch fork is actuated. A pull type uses a cable and the push type is pushed to engauge/disengauge the clutch. For the pull (cable) type the pivot ball (inside the bell)is on the passenger side and push type has the pivot ball on the drivers side of the bell. If your looking at a bell housing and it has no clutch fork in it...that is how you tell which one it is. I hope that wasn't confusing lol

Mine is cable & on the left.
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: RSM on November 11, 2011, 03:35:01 PM
Sorry Fehrion, I sold the pedal assembly about 3 months ago. An automatic is the way to go when your drag racing...keeps your times consistent. The problem with manual transmissions is that if you miss a gear or have a hard time shifting then your done. Also for street driving just stick in gear and go. Manual transmissions are kool to have and all and a T5 has a nice od 5th gear but I'm all about the 1/4 mile and car shows. I'll keep an eye out for a bell housing for ya...I hope you an find a complete setup, makes it nice to get everything at once.
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: Reeves1 on November 11, 2011, 04:05:19 PM
Quote
I hope you an find a complete setup, makes it nice to get everything at once.

 :D

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/DerrickJB/Cars/0279352_20.jpg)

built 302w & T-5 going to be pulled (replacing with a B2).
I have motor mounts (71-73) I'd toss in.
Shoot me a PM if interested. Price keeps dropping as Dec storms in on me !
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: Fehrion_sit on November 12, 2011, 08:51:44 AM
that sounds like one mean drivetrain reeves, but ive already got a built 289 thats almost done!! im building it myself in my engine machining class at school.

RSM, your right, automatics are easier and more consistent, but i love driving stick, there is nothing else like it, okay maybe winning too, but this is a street car for my dad and i to take out on the weekends and to local shows.

any thoughts on those mustang mounts i posted a picture of? im supposed to go pick them up tomorrow, i just dont want to buy the wrong thing again. http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/pts/2679652559.html
there is the link of stuff the guy has.

New Hooker Super Comp Headers 1 5/8" x 31"x 3" Part # 6102
^^^ those arent the super comps that work with pinto swap is it?
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: RSM on November 12, 2011, 09:34:59 PM
I'm not sure if those Mustang II mounts will work. I saw a pair of Hooker swap mounts in the classified section...I think those are what you need. As far as the headers...I don't remember which ones worked on the early Pinto...need to do some homework before you buy anything.
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: Fehrion_sit on November 12, 2011, 09:56:29 PM
ive been talking to Norm and he said those look alot like his, and i cant seem to find a picture of those mounts in there original condition. ive been reading alot and it seems like everyone has something different.   
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: TIGGER on November 13, 2011, 03:23:15 PM
Keep in mind you will need a clutch pedal assembly from a 71-74.  75 and up pedals are different in the way they mount.
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: 289Wagon on November 13, 2011, 05:36:17 PM
 Not all 289 blocks are the same as a 302. The early blocks used a smaller bell housing and only a 5 bolt mounting ( like a 260) the later ones used the same 6 bolt pattern as the 302.
 You may want to count the threaded holes on the rear of your block. Two holes are for the dowel pins, so it should be either 7 or 8 holes total.
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: Fehrion_sit on November 13, 2011, 10:53:25 PM
i was under that impression, but i was unsure, i know the pedals i need also have to be non power brakes because they are not interchangable ...? i read that on another post

Reeves, are those mounts you have for a v8 swap? id buy just them .. Fehrionsit@gmail.com

RSM, i emailed the guy in California about the swap mounts .. he responded but has not emailed me back yet with a defiant answer.

Ricpinto, i believe it is a six bolt bellhousing, i will double check when i hone the block tomorrow.
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: Reeves1 on November 14, 2011, 05:29:49 AM
I didn't re-read the topic, but have you decided on what headers you will be going with ? May make a difference on which way you mount the engine....
I do have frame mounts, but I'm holding them till I know what will happen to the 302w & T-5, as I would like to sell as a complete unit/swap .
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: Fehrion_sit on November 14, 2011, 07:54:13 AM
Reeves, i was planning on getting a set of used super comps, but i need to mount the motor first which wont happen till i have all the parts to do so(probally in the spring) ... recommendation s ?
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: Reeves1 on November 14, 2011, 06:49:07 PM
Look in the parts for sale section. Guy has a brand new set of headers you are looking for & the price is good as well.
Seems to me, he may have mounts as well ?

Edit: his listing has expired.
shoot a PM to 79prostreet: http://www.fordpinto.com/profile/?u=8303
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: Fehrion_sit on November 22, 2011, 11:28:47 AM
on a side note, for my early pinto, is a granada brake swap overly difficult, would i be better off with aftermarket brakes?
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: oldkayaker on November 22, 2011, 03:20:49 PM
In case you have not seen the great thread below, it shows what is involved in adapting the Granada disc to the early Pinto.  I am not aware of anybody making after market brakes for the early spindles anymore.  Would like to hear if someone is.
http://www.fordpinto.com/pinto-faq/front-disc-brakes-(4-5-lug)/msg6498/#msg6498 (http://www.fordpinto.com/pinto-faq/front-disc-brakes-(4-5-lug)/msg6498/#msg6498)
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: Fehrion_sit on November 22, 2011, 03:56:31 PM
i have seen that link, is switching to the newer spindle even possible?
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: oldkayaker on November 23, 2011, 06:35:53 AM
The late spindle is about 7/8" taller (between the ball joints) than the early spindle.  I suspect this would affect the geometry but I do not understand such topics.  However I seem to remember somebody here installing the late spindle in a 73.  Another problem is that the hole for the tie rod end is larger in the late spindle than the 71-72 spindle.  The 73 has a unique rack which uses the larger tie rod end.
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: Fehrion_sit on December 12, 2011, 04:34:13 PM
hey guys, so i went picking at a junkyard, and found 3 pintos !!! one of them has a v6 in it and the rear end is big, possibly what im looking for, but i need to make sure, unforantly the # plate is rusted off, here are some pictures i took, im almost positive its what im looking for. =DD

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g21/Fehrion_sit/craigslist%20stuff/IMG_0133.jpg
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g21/Fehrion_sit/craigslist%20stuff/IMG_0127.jpg
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g21/Fehrion_sit/craigslist%20stuff/IMG_0126.jpg
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g21/Fehrion_sit/craigslist%20stuff/IMG_0125.jpg
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g21/Fehrion_sit/craigslist%20stuff/IMG_0122.jpg
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: Cookieboystoys on December 12, 2011, 04:45:00 PM
looks like an 8 inch rear to me
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: RSM on December 12, 2011, 05:17:03 PM
Yup...it's an 8"
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: Fehrion_sit on December 12, 2011, 07:34:11 PM
yahoo! and because its coming out of a pinto , it will be the right length to fit under our rear end! ... should i take the driveshaft too? the car is a wagon.
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: RSM on December 12, 2011, 08:21:22 PM
I believe the wagon drivelines are longer but I couldn't tell you by how much. If you get it cheap enough i'd take it anyways.
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: Wittsend on December 12, 2011, 08:32:20 PM
My understanding is that all Pinto's have the same wheel base.  Therefore the difference maker becomes the transmission and rearend. Also, in your case the location of the transmission might be different (meaning moved) for the V-8 installation.

But as a reference point I went from a:

 2.0 / C-4 / 6.75 rearend

 to a

 2.3 / T-5 / 8" rearend

And the original '73 wagon driveshaft fit perfectly.  :-)

Tom
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: dave1987 on December 12, 2011, 09:50:48 PM
If you have a drive shaft that fits with your current axle it should be fine to use with the 8". The only real difference is the yoke which changes from manual to automatic transmissions. As a side note, the C4 and C3 automatic transmissions use different yokes as well.

I have a stock 2.3 in my 78 with the stock 4spd Ford FOG transmission behind it. I did the 8" axle swap and am still using the same drive-shaft.
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: George Davis on December 16, 2011, 06:04:22 PM
it was a LONG time ago, but when i put the 289, 4speed (top loader) in the Gold Bee Pangra Race car i used a Herbert and Meek kit, it came with all the mounts including the trans mount and was a total bolt in, the headers were weird but fit. I did have to use a sledge to dimple the firewall at the bellhousing but nothing else. I used a clutch cable but forgot where i got it from and it was reverse mounted and never worked correctly as the fulcrum and ratio made the pedal so stiff a bodybuilder whould have trouble with it. the bellhousing was from a '65 Mustang and Shelby flywheel and clutch. the floor was notched to fit the hurst vertigal gate shifter. I finally ended up putting a built C-4 with 2800 stall converter in it and had lots of fun. Pic's of the car is in my galley pictures. I also had to notch the front radiator support to get a Mustang II V-8 Radiator in it, also switched to electric fans due to clearance problems. That's as about as much as i remember on it now, this was in 74 so the memory fades, i'm sure others on here have more recent experience than I do. Good luck. Oh, sub frame connectors, slapper bars and a 6 point cage helped stiffen my Pangra.
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: Fehrion_sit on December 20, 2011, 06:16:00 PM
why hello guys, well im now the proud owner of several parts

-one 8" rear axle, drums and all + drive shaft from a 75 wagon
- mII oil pan, a little rough but hopefully repairable
-mII exhaust manifolds
- pinto v8 swap mounts came in the mail too!!!

all from one yard run! hahha

ill post pics soon, but if i wanted to unload the mustangII manifolds, whats my asking price, they are untouched, no rust no damage?
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: Fehrion_sit on January 18, 2012, 08:08:27 AM
hey guys, so ive had the pan repaired, $30 and hopefully it passes the water test, here are the pictures from the stuff i got, im looking into heads at the moment to finish up the motor, Has anyone ever used floo tek heads?

http://www.tristatecylinderhead.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=163


Pictures of rear, pan, Exhaust manifold

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g21/Fehrion_sit/craigslist%20stuff/406330_2799235512736_1613978825_2516820_91222153_n.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g21/Fehrion_sit/craigslist%20stuff/403844_2799234512711_1613978825_2516817_1641789752_n.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g21/Fehrion_sit/craigslist%20stuff/387749_2799232312656_1613978825_2516811_126556921_n.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g21/Fehrion_sit/craigslist%20stuff/380490_2799224832469_1613978825_2516805_2043055919_n.jpg
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: RSM on January 18, 2012, 10:23:07 PM
I've never heard of the heads before. I tried reading the article but the second page was missing altogether but it sounds like they got good results. Looks like the company has been around since 2007 so if they are still in business they must be doing something right. At that price I'd be tempted to buy a pair and try them on my 347.
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: Fehrion_sit on January 19, 2012, 09:05:31 PM
RSM, any tips or tricks for refreshing the rear axle? mines at 8" ?

im leaning hard toward those heads so i can spend more in other places, ive done multiple equations (combustion ratio) to make sure i get my 10:1 which is my main concern, im looking hard into transmissions right now, trying to find the right t-5 and parts 
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: RSM on January 19, 2012, 10:49:20 PM
Other than replacing the axle bearings & seals and giving the axles a good once over, not much else to do other than figure what gear ratio you want if your thinking about changing it. If your sticking with what gears you have then probably the best thing to do is take the center section to a gear shop and have it inspected unless you have all the tools to check everything unless you know the axle is in good shape. Give it a good cleaning and check for any cracks then a fresh coat of paint if it everything checks out ok. How do the brakes look?
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: Fehrion_sit on January 22, 2012, 11:01:44 AM
i havent had the drums off the 8" but when i get to the 5 lug axle ill be using the ranger drums, do you happen to know what year ranger drum is used for that? i wish the brake hardware from the small axle (stock one) was interchangable because it looks like it is all brand new.

have any experience with fuel tanks, we found a replacement one on amazon for a reasonable price, shape wise it matchs up exactly, but the listing does have a year listed.

http://www.amazon.com/Spectra-Premium-F80A-Mustang-Pinto/dp/B0049QQ49W/ref=au_pf_pfg_s?ie=UTF8&Model=Pinto%7C693&n=15684181&s=automotive&Make=Ford%7C54&Year=1972%7C1972&vehicleType=automotive&newCar=1&carId=001

thats the tank ^^^^
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: RSM on January 22, 2012, 12:49:50 PM
I have no idea on the Ranger stuff. As far as gas tanks, I know that subject has been brought up before and I know don't remember if Mustang tanks are the same or not. You might want to start a new thread and ask if anyone knows.
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: Fehrion_sit on January 22, 2012, 09:53:07 PM
RSM, i asked the question on a similar fuel tank thread, so now it got bumped to the top, if they dont respond, ill start a new thread. i got my pedals, found a guy on ebay with both brake and clutch (matching out of the same car) so im that much closer!! time to get a lock on a trans
Title: Re: 72 pangra v8 swap questions
Post by: RSM on January 22, 2012, 09:54:57 PM
Good deal on the pedals. I saw the other post on the tank after I responded lol.