Topic: Finally got a couple days to work on my pinto (Read 7034 times)

71pintoracer · « **Reply #20 on:** March 23, 2009, 08:05:51 PM »

[quote I know from looking at the pictures it looks like the tin man took a crap on it but its welded in good.
Ha! Thats funny!

I'll have to remember that one! Looking good with that shiny paint! Don't be too concerned though, once the engine is in there you can't see it. What kind of headers are you using? Mine are the kind that the front two tubes go forward and under the crossmember, the headers determined where the engine had to go.

smallfryefarm · « **Reply #21 on:** March 24, 2009, 08:38:57 AM »

I have a new set of the same, got off ebay ceramic coated, they look sweet but if need be they will have to go up for sale. I bought most everything ahead of time but as i progress i can see that some of it i wont be able to use, but i guess thats kinda the way it has to go.
After you got your engine in how much room did you have between the front pipes on the headers and the rack. Could you have got back another inch?

71pintoracer · « **Reply #22 on:** March 24, 2009, 04:42:41 PM »

The front has plenty of room, it was the back tubes that had to squeeze between the crossmember and the firewall. The engine had to be sitting just right for them to fit properly. Also the valve cover is a little close to the firewall on the driver side so that may be an issue as far as how far back you can go. It's kinda hard to get a clear picture but I'll try to post some.

smallfryefarm · « **Reply #23 on:** March 25, 2009, 08:04:21 AM »

THANK YOU so much your awesome. Here is a thought, if i can get the front down 1 inch and make the motor more level i am hoping to gain clearance at the valve covers. I hope to get a chance to drop it in for a look soon, so really dont have a clue till then. Just one of the MANY things going thru my little brain that keeps me from sleeping.

larjohnson · « **Reply #24 on:** March 26, 2009, 02:49:16 PM »

Dave: You're progressing nicely. My 1971 is coming along great. I only have a few things left to do on the interior, and it'll be finished. The paint isn't that bad, but I'm hoping to get it painted this summer. Anyway, I'm working on the heater now, it wasn't hooked up when I got the car from Reed. Anyway, got the baffles moving, ordered new control cables, which should be coming in the next week or so. In no hurry, will assemble the heater, once I get the dash repainted. I don't want to put the dash pad back on, until after I finish hooking up the heater, I can see and work so much better without it. Anyway, hopefully the heater will be up and running well in about a week. Your car is a beauty, and it's coming along nicely. Hope to see it in person some day. Have a great weekend.... Larry

smallfryefarm · « **Reply #25 on:** March 26, 2009, 03:37:23 PM »

Hey larry thanks for the kind words. Good to here from you. I took my heater box out and took it apart cleaned what looked like 30lbs of carpet pad out of the fan and cleaned trimed and greased the doors and put them back in. They really work good now. I have been watching your rebuild, it tickles me to see some one else enjoying them selves to. Stay at it, hopefully will see you around some day!!

71pintoracer · « **Reply #26 on:** March 27, 2009, 02:40:11 AM »

Dave, took some pics but I can't find the stupid cable to load them!

(I'll keep looking!) From what I can tell it looks like the left valve cover is the limiting factor on how far back you can go, not the headers.

71pintoracer · « **Reply #27 on:** March 29, 2009, 08:11:06 AM »

OK, here are the pics. The headers seem to have enough room to move back, the valve cover and of course the oil pan are the limiting factors. Since I made my motor mounts I set the engine in and got my clearance at the oil pan. Also, at the valve cover, there is a big rubber grommet where the wiring harness comes through, I had to push the grommet back into the car and reseal it to get more clearance. Dropping down another inch will help with that issue but I'm not sure about the firewall.

71pintoracer · « **Reply #28 on:** March 29, 2009, 08:23:35 AM »

Also ran into these issues: on the right side I had to trim out and re-weld the pass side of the frame for the header to pass through. The front tubes on the driver side are close and the back tubes on the pass side are close. I would have liked to have shifted the engine around more for clearance but the rag joint is in the way.

smallfryefarm · « **Reply #29 on:** March 29, 2009, 02:57:09 PM »

Thanks for the pics, they help like you wouldnt believe. I think i have diffrent headers my rear to pipes go out thru the wheel well. I am going to have my motor and trans sitting in the car on mounts before the weekend is over. I hope to have some exciting pics to post tomorrow.
I have another question on your headers where the rear to pipes slide in to the collector did you weld them? How did you seal them up?

71pintoracer · « **Reply #30 on:** March 29, 2009, 08:12:21 PM »

My collectors are made on the back part of the header and the front two pipes slide into that. I used red high-temp silicone where they slide together. You can see it on one of the tubes in the second pic. On my 4 cyl two piece header there were tabs welded to the tubes and you bolted them there. I don't have a picture of that header but I did the same thing with the collector pipe on this 4 cyl header.

smallfryefarm · « **Reply #31 on:** March 30, 2009, 09:04:35 AM »

Well i put a old set of heads on and droped the motor in for the first time for mock up, and i cant thanks enough for the the help from 71pintoracer. It all fit in perfect i built the motor mounts and the trans mount got the headers on, they also fit very nice. I know what your thinking and no i didnt cut the wheel wells out with a shovel. I will tidy up the holes after the motor comes out. What a week end finally got to see it come together!!! happy happy happy.

very glad to see that i can get the carb and intake and aircleaner under the hood.

smallfryefarm · « **Reply #32 on:** March 30, 2009, 09:06:14 AM »

here is another pic of how the headers come together. I will add paint after the motor comes out and make it look alittle better. Hey 71pintoracer i'm buyin.

71pintoracer · « **Reply #33 on:** March 31, 2009, 06:04:24 AM »

Oh yea!! Lookin' good, lookin' good!

smallfryefarm · « **Reply #34 on:** April 01, 2009, 08:43:27 AM »

Hey just got on and looked at the screen and the new member posted is my boy.

He has been a big help on the build!!! With out all the help from him and Bill by buddy, i couldn't have gotten it all done.
My boy has always been into cars its fun to work with him. I will post a picture of his ride. He won the points championship with this one.

We did the paint, chassis, all the set up and built the engine all ourselves in our garage. I have to say
i might be prejudice but he is a wheel man.

71pintoracer · « **Reply #35 on:** April 01, 2009, 09:10:28 PM »

Awesome!

And congrats on the championship, that takes hard work and dedication. (And a good wheel man!) Love the last pic, three wide, down on the inside and kickin' up dirt!!

smallfryefarm · « **Reply #36 on:** April 02, 2009, 10:21:40 AM »

that was a exciting win, 3rd to first on the last lap, he had her huntin.

smallfryefarm · « **Reply #37 on:** April 08, 2009, 09:30:42 AM »

Finally got my house done, Now time to get on the pinto. I pulled the motor and trans out last night.
Thands to the help from 71pintoracer i only have to pull it out one time, it all fit great. I hope to get the engine bay painted again for the third time. Then back in it goes. Maybe by the week end i will have some pics of the progress.

smallfryefarm · « **Reply #38 on:** April 13, 2009, 08:24:09 AM »

Worked all day saturday in the shop, got a lot done but not as much as planned. Seems that is becomeing a trend. Maybe lower my expectations next time. I got my aluminum heads, intake and carb sat. Got them installed, also got my cam dialed in. That took a while. My son got my oil pan all welded up it turned out great. Im thinking its going to be a lot of pinto muscle.

beegle55 · « **Reply #39 on:** April 13, 2009, 08:12:03 PM »

Well even though your progress may be a little bumpy, it seems like overall progress is going pretty well. Engine is looking good and the hard work will definatley pay off in a big way... but you already know that

Keep up the work and best of luck from your fellow mountaineer.

-beegle55

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