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V8 Swap
« on: May 11, 2011, 02:55:23 PM »
Hello,

I'm new to the site and to pintos. They were very popular when I was a young brat. I have taken a liking to them as a light weight platform for a v8. Is there a link or any literature on swapping out the smaller motors to the 289 or 302. Frame modification, clearance problems etc. Any direction would be much appreciated.


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Re: V8 Swap
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2011, 05:13:16 PM »
There are a few guys with V8 cars and I'm sure someone will chime in. There are a few articles on this subject. It's not a really complicated thing to do. Coming up with the right parts to do it is the trick. If you can find a V8 Mustang II for a donor car would make it easy. You need the oil pan and pickup tube, engine mounts, exhaust manifolds if you don't want to do headers plus a rear axle if your car doesn't have an 8" in it. A lot depends on the year of car you use also.

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Re: V8 Swap
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2011, 06:11:47 PM »
the v8 swap manual on ebay for 8 bucks is a ripoff imho.....
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Re: V8 Swap
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2011, 07:07:30 PM »
There is a manual........ Whoo Hoooo!!!!! Thanks guys. I really appreciate it. My goal is a small body without computer that will house a small v8 that with a small carb and driven without a lead foot that will yield decent fuel economy (as far as v8s go anyway)

maybe a small holley and tranny with a decent top end .......... just ramblin out loud.

I really appreciate your responses, thank you very much.

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Re: V8 Swap
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2011, 07:46:04 PM »
don't settle for the 289 or 302...I've got a 351 Windsor in mine, and it fits like factory. There is a kit from Hooker that makes it an easy swap. I didnt do the swap, but the kit was very popular in the 80s...just make sure you get a differential that can handle a V8...Ford 8 inch from mustang II, or you could contact Moser engineering... they will make exactly what you need to fit...If you make a lot of power, you will want a Ford 9" diff...but it all depends on your budget...Good luck!!

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Re: V8 Swap
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2011, 09:22:43 AM »
If you want one ready to go, check out my 71 V8 Pinto in the classifieds... ...Joe
1971- 289 V8; B&M C4; 9" with 4:11 posi. Several suspension upgrades and body modifications.
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« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2011, 08:28:07 PM »
Thats cool...buying one ready to go is a good thing too...saves a lot of time & skinned knuckles...lol
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Re: V8 Swap
« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2011, 09:00:34 PM »
Oh Hell, save the four cylinder.
 
But if you must, here is an engine I would put in.
 
http://www.jonkaaseracingengines.com/component/content/article/217-jon-kaase-custom-built-boss-nine-and-p-51-engines.html
 

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Re: V8 Swap
« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2011, 09:06:05 PM »
WOW...rear ended...that is an awesome site!!! I love Ford engines!!!..might be a bit much for a mighty Pinto though..ha ha...wow, I could envision that engine in a lot of Ford projects...
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Re: V8 Swap
« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2011, 09:13:25 PM »
I dream about those engines, If I won the lottery you would see the sickest vision of a Boss Pinto ever, with a HUGE Shaker Scoop, so big that took up almost the whole Hood.  it would be cartoonish. With flames blowing out the exhaust.  I would widen the back of the car extending the rear wheels out instead of in. It might need a solid lead bumper to keep the nose down.
 

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Re: V8 Swap
« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2011, 09:34:09 PM »
WOW..thats a pretty wild vision...sound s like fun...they made some small die cast cars like that a few years ago that looked just like that...I have a few of the Mustangs, one in orange and one in yellow, that look just like that...

It would take lottery money to build that dream...its over $20K just for the motor...
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Re: V8 Swap
« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2011, 04:04:39 PM »
Hello,
I hope WIV8Pinto will see this post. I built a 72 runabout with a 302w, c-4 trans, 9 inch rear end out a 57 ford wagon(it bolted right in). I used the hooker header kit. The mounts and the headers. Oh forgot to mention 1970 351w heads which I hand ported. I still have the car but the engine is long gone. I used to drag race it in the early 1980s. The car ran a best of 11:90 @110mph. Parked some big block chevy street cars at that time. It was alot of fun with just a mild engine. Build what you can afford. These cars are so light that they run pretty fast in the 1/4 mile without to much HP. Obviously the more engine you have the more difficult it is to get the car hooked up with stock suspension. Around where I live I've seen a couple run 10:90 with 302s. Alot more into the engine than what I had but still had leaf spring rear ends C-4 and slicks. I hope this incourages you. Ken

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Re: V8 Swap
« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2011, 06:24:32 PM »
Thanks for the info pinto Ken...Im getting REALLY close to running my car at the strip...can't wait to see what it can do!!! I'll keep you all posted......st ill need to find a trailer....... .il probably rent one just to get it to the track.....
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Re: V8 Swap
« Reply #15 on: July 03, 2011, 04:20:15 PM »
hey guys, im starting the same thing with my 72 pinto pangra and i have two questions, i didnt wanna start another thread on the same topic

can i have a link to the set of hooker headers that would fit a 1968 289 ? does it matter if it has 302 heads on it?

does anyone know if these motor mounts are real and will work for what we have?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1971-73-Ford-Pinto-Hooker-V8-Frame-Mounts-/260781618242?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3cb7cbb442

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Re: V8 Swap
« Reply #16 on: July 04, 2011, 05:12:50 AM »
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does anyone know if these motor mounts are real and will work for what we have?

They look like what is in my 72.Bolted & welded down the sides.

Mine also has adjustable bars at the front of the engine.
No pictures of them, yet.

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Re: V8 Swap
« Reply #17 on: July 04, 2011, 08:32:51 PM »
Reeves1 - do you know where i can find motor mounts that would work for my 289 swap? what do you mean by adjustable bar? i have alot less space in the front of mine bc of the pangra kit, so im still working on the radiator/fan setup

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Re: V8 Swap
« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2011, 07:50:47 PM »
For motor mounts, I have read on here you use two left mounts from a Mustangll. I could be wrong: a search should find the info.

Front brace pictures of the front left on mine:







This is in a 1972, with a 302W. They were used on the BOSS 302 as well, when it was in it.
I don't have pictures handy for the right side, but it is the same.

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Re: V8 Swap
« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2011, 08:42:37 PM »
i found those in the keystone book, i might get a one or two, where do you have them mounted? .. i picked up the 68 289 and now im looking for ether a donor 4spd car or someone parting one out, i really dont want an automatic v8, but ill settle for it. ... does anyone know if the turbo pangras had 8" rears? im pretty sure it is one. keep the 4 lug or swap to five? bc ive been reading on here about the 5 lug swap and it seems really complicated or it seems like i have to find an entire different rear end. im just trying to get my facts straight


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Re: V8 Swap
« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2011, 11:21:04 PM »
That torque strap is only needed on the drivers side of the engine since the torque of the engine is towards the passenger side. My V8 Pinto has only 1 and uses stock Mustang II engine mounts. I've had no issues with this setup.

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« Reply #21 on: July 10, 2011, 06:46:54 AM »
Original builder likely wanted the braces on both sides due to the pan mod to lower the engine over the rack.
Picture shows what I mean...


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Re: V8 Swap
« Reply #22 on: July 10, 2011, 11:28:40 AM »
What is that oil pan originally off of?...never seen one like that.

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« Reply #23 on: July 10, 2011, 08:23:34 PM »
No idea where the pan is from.
I do remember seeing them many years ago ?
It was altered to go over the rack though.

I found a BOSS 302 Drag Pack engine & trans. Complete unit ready to drop in and run. Big coin, but will be worth it. Seeing the Shelby & 2-4s under the hood will be cool as well  ;D

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Re: V8 Swap
« Reply #24 on: July 10, 2011, 08:58:44 PM »
Pan looks like a copy of the Shelby cobra 289 piece. Most of those had COBRA or SHELBY cast into the sides where this one is blank. Looks cool!
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