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Tude

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headers
« on: February 03, 2006, 11:54:53 PM »
ok for the guys like me who dont have the money to buy headers heres what to do.

-buy a manifold gasket (or peal old one off and use it if still good)
-trace it on to a peice of flat steel
- take the peice of flat steel to a fabrication shop and have them use a plasma cutter to cut it out (cleaner cuts)
- then have 2 sets of manderal bends made and cut in half (or use square or round tubbing if you have a chop saw and the time)
- then weld the 2 together and walla a set of headers is made

-as a extra put some chrome tips on it
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turbopinto72

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Re: headers
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2006, 01:10:55 PM »
Tude gets a " one up" for mentioning Chrome, which is "Shiny" and approved by the Shiny Police. :police:  ;D
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

Tude

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Re: headers
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2006, 06:58:05 PM »
does any one know how to read the exhoust while cranking the motor over

black smoke= getting good spark and gas
white smoke = gas but no smoke
flames= way to much gas, hold petal to the floor its flooded

and back presure ruining the valves dont worry about it the motor is basicly not going to last a long long time in one of these cars the way i look at it every time i run that equals up to an extra 2000 miles to the wear of the motor lol

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turbopinto72

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Re: headers
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2006, 11:11:54 PM »
Black smoke could mean to rich also.
White smoke could mean bad head gasket also.
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

Tude

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Re: headers
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2006, 11:50:17 PM »
well yes your right its just kinda a simple way to read what your engine is doing
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CUTWHAT

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Re: headers
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2006, 04:56:02 PM »
LAST TIME I LOST A HEAD GASKET MY #2 HEADER PIPE LOOKED LIKE A SPRINKLER. I WILL GET SOME PICS OF THE WAY I BUILD MY HEADERS, LETS JUST SAY THE FLANG WONT GET HOT AND WORP! OR OVER KILL. ;D

Tude

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Re: headers
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2006, 09:13:08 PM »
i love the back tires! the tractor treads, how many ply are they ?
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CUTWHAT

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Re: headers
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2006, 01:57:47 PM »
HAVE YOU EVER DRIVEN IN A DERBY OR IS THIS SECOND HAND? ???

CUTWHAT

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Re: headers
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2006, 06:16:36 PM »
THINK BEFOR I ANSWER. I HAVE NOTING TO THINK ABOUT YOU SOUND LIKE A RETARD.  DO YOU WANT TO EXPLANE TO EVERYONE HOW TO BREATH TO? :wow:

turbopinto72

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Re: headers
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2006, 07:32:05 PM »
OK, Lets lighten up guys. I have read all the posts and found nothing offencive. I think what DTD was trying to get across was his ( and or his racing buddies) experience. It might of come across as  a know-it-all but is was advice none the less. That said, this was a " HEADERS" topic and not a " "how to drive a derby car" topic. Please start a new topic for advice on how to drive a derby car if you want to continue this discussion.
Thanks
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

Tude

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Re: headers
« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2006, 05:07:57 AM »
woow wooow woooow  i will start a new topic this had nothing to add to the topic of headers though........ .............. .....
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crazycooter06

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Re: headers
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2006, 01:59:10 PM »
Here is a little tip for you derby guys.  Less throttle= more wins.   My one derby friend has been using the SAME 350 sb for the last 17? years. this motor has 100+ wins on it.  it barely holds oil pressure, smokes to beat hell.  But it runs cool, never over heats.  ( that's one secret you wont be able to pry from anyones dead fingers).  Measure your hits,  if you are truly into the SPORT of derbying, then you should know that you should try to get as many derbies out of one car that you can. I think my friend managed 5 wins 2 2nd places and 1 3rd with the same car.  The heat race isnt the time to show how tuff you are, that is when you show everyone how much you can use your head.  It doesn't do you any good to win the heat just to die in the lineup for the feature.
(which if you are bending your hump and cutting your driveshaft) is exactly what you are doing.

  Work the corners of your derby car into the trunk. not up or down. You fold the butt into one solid wall.  straight on hits are your enemy until you get the corners folded in.  some cars you want the butt to fold up, some you want it to fold down.  But not a pinto.  If you are hitting people with the gas pedal all the way to the floor, you are not using your head.

  Plus you have to watch out for the guys who are there because they hate the car they are entering.  you know the ones " after all the trouble this POS SOB has given me, I'm gonna_______".

  P.s.  you guys are probably young now. But in a few years you will remember all the derbies you were in when you wake up every morning.  REINFORCE THE DRIVERS SEAT. so that it cannot bend backwards, or twist in the middle.  brace your back solidly against the seat, before impacts(if you see them coming).  I have seen 70 and 80 yr old guys who get around better than my friend who is only in his mid to late 30's.  because of not properly bracing the back of the seat.   Good luck.

LOL that is the funniest thing i have ever read!!!!!

so drive like a little girl and nurse your car to get as many runs as you can out of it? just go fast and hit something. i get more angry if i got to keep the car for the next demo, but i guess maybe thats just me :rolleye:

CUTWHAT

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Re: headers
« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2006, 09:15:38 AM »
HERE ARE THE HEADER PICS SORRY. THEY ARE A UNFINISHED SET THAT I TREW ON FOR SOM PICS.



hvyeqop69

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Re: headers
« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2006, 09:39:15 AM »
Heres mine the flange could be a little thicker on the next set but they work great.
Drive the good ones. Derby the rest!
I buy Pinto Spindles.

Nevada Pinto

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Re: headers
« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2006, 11:17:02 AM »
 I have been making exhaust for my cars..I have found that I like all 4 pipes together side bye side...And then put a 4'' crome tip over that...Looks and sounds good....

jamnjm

Re: headers
« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2006, 01:51:36 AM »
If you are looking to buy exhaust flanges (cheap), header bolts and check out quality headers: www.powerbyace .com
JM

Tude

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Re: headers
« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2006, 04:06:26 AM »


this is a set i have used for about 4 years on a 302 the top is how i first did it and the bottom is what they look like now but im going to pass them on to some one else they are just normal mustang headers flipped over
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Tude

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Re: headers
« Reply #17 on: July 28, 2006, 04:09:41 AM »


this is a set i built for a 318 in a mid 80s diplamat they had to be re fabed becouse i didnt notice the brake booster was in the way and very limited time
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Tude

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Re: headers
« Reply #18 on: July 28, 2006, 04:12:52 AM »


this is a set i built for an olds 307 and i will say they were the hardest they are in an 84 olds delta 88

my new ones i will have a pic hopefully soon they are on the pretty 302 it has lots of chrome 8ft if i recall
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Tude

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Re: headers
« Reply #19 on: August 25, 2006, 12:49:01 PM »




this is the set of chrome headers i built for my 302 they sound awsome the chrome is old pickup bed rail that bolts from front to back
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demoiowa89r

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Re: headers
« Reply #20 on: August 27, 2006, 11:01:41 PM »
i got 2 headers for my pinto's. one is a 2in pipe with a turn out. it sounds awesome. the other is a 3 1/3 it sounds a little rice burnerish but still pretty good.
Proud owner of a 79 pinto hatch. NON-DERBY
a 78 hatch. derby car.
a 73 wagon. derby car.

demoiowa89r

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Re: headers
« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2008, 01:24:39 AM »
jus bought a new header today.. i'll get a pic and post it soon.
Proud owner of a 79 pinto hatch. NON-DERBY
a 78 hatch. derby car.
a 73 wagon. derby car.